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Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 02 2013,13:42) terraricca,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
Quote wakeup. And that be at the end of the second resurrection ,and so after the 1000 years of Christ people of the first resurrection .
No Pierre,
Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection, at the coming.When the fullness of the gentiles come in ….happens just before the coming. To be specific, just before the mark is issued. Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed.
j42Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed. now this is false ;because the jews and the gentiles wii be resurrected in the second resurrection so after the 1000 years ,I do believe you are mixing the faithful true believers including the 144k and all others that will be resurrected in the second resurrection,
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,12:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,15:30) J42. Knowledge is rejected;
therefore the desolation.wakeup.
T.It does not matter to me if you accept or reject.
The main thing is that I have not hid my penny in the sand.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,22:29) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,12:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,15:30) J42. Knowledge is rejected;
therefore the desolation.wakeup.
T.It does not matter to me if you accept or reject.
The main thing is that I have not hid my penny in the sand.wakeup.
w/j42you do not answer my questions ,and make believe that you have for any reason have given it and so you are the truth ,where do you come from
you are worse that my old preacher ;the days where the people that preaches like you do ,and get away without proving anything and not answering questions are OVER ,IN MY BOOK ,CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION THIS BY IT SELF SHOWS YOUR UNDERSTANDING ,IF YOU DO NOT SHOW LIGHT ,YOU SHOW DARKNESS ,BUT ALL IN CHRIST OR THE WORLDQuote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,12:05) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 02 2013,13:42) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,16:39) Quote wakeup. And that be at the end of the second resurrection ,and so after the 1000 years of Christ people of the first resurrection .
No Pierre,
Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection, at the coming.When the fullness of the gentiles come in ….happens just before the coming. To be specific, just before the mark is issued. Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed.
j42Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed. now this is false ;because the jews and the gentiles wii be resurrected in the second resurrection so after the 1000 years ,I do believe you are mixing the faithful true believers including the 144k and all others that will be resurrected in the second resurrection,
T.Here is a gift from your baby sitter.Read it.
Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power;
***and no man was able to *enter into* the temple***,
**till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled**.
Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, **and pour out the vials** of the *wrath of God* upon the earth.
THERE ARE SEVEN VIALS TO POUR.
THE TEMPLE IS CLOSED UNTILL ALL SEVEN VIALS ARE POURED.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,23:05) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,12:05) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 02 2013,13:42) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,16:39) Quote wakeup. And that be at the end of the second resurrection ,and so after the 1000 years of Christ people of the first resurrection .
No Pierre,
Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection, at the coming.When the fullness of the gentiles come in ….happens just before the coming. To be specific, just before the mark is issued. Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed.
j42Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed. now this is false ;because the jews and the gentiles wii be resurrected in the second resurrection so after the 1000 years ,I do believe you are mixing the faithful true believers including the 144k and all others that will be resurrected in the second resurrection,
T.Here is a gift from your baby sitter.Read it.
Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power;
***and no man was able to *enter into* the temple***,
**till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled**.
Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, **and pour out the vials** of the *wrath of God* upon the earth.
THERE ARE SEVEN VIALS TO POUR.
THE TEMPLE IS CLOSED UNTILL ALL SEVEN VIALS ARE POURED.wakeup.
WI KNOW THOSE SCRIPTURES ,BUT I DO NOT SEE UNDERSTANDING ONLY THE COPY OF THOSE SCRIPTURES ;IT DOES NOT TELL ANYTHING ,IT COULD BE ALREADY PAST FOR WHAT WE KNOW ,SO EXPLAIN IF YOU HAVE THE WISDOM TO DO IT ,IF NOT KEEP SILENCE
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,04:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,23:05) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,12:05) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 02 2013,13:42) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,16:39) Quote wakeup. And that be at the end of the second resurrection ,and so after the 1000 years of Christ people of the first resurrection .
No Pierre,
Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection, at the coming.When the fullness of the gentiles come in ….happens just before the coming. To be specific, just before the mark is issued. Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed.
j42Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed. now this is false ;because the jews and the gentiles wii be resurrected in the second resurrection so after the 1000 years ,I do believe you are mixing the faithful true believers including the 144k and all others that will be resurrected in the second resurrection,
T.Here is a gift from your baby sitter.Read it.
Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power;
***and no man was able to *enter into* the temple***,
**till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled**.
Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, **and pour out the vials** of the *wrath of God* upon the earth.
THERE ARE SEVEN VIALS TO POUR.
THE TEMPLE IS CLOSED UNTILL ALL SEVEN VIALS ARE POURED.wakeup.
WI KNOW THOSE SCRIPTURES ,BUT I DO NOT SEE UNDERSTANDING ONLY THE COPY OF THOSE SCRIPTURES ;IT DOES NOT TELL ANYTHING ,IT COULD BE ALREADY PAST FOR WHAT WE KNOW ,SO EXPLAIN IF YOU HAVE THE WISDOM TO DO IT ,IF NOT KEEP SILENCE
TYou know that the coming will be at the last trump.
the 7th trumpet.
The 6th trumpet is the gathering of the armies.
the 5th trumpet is the locuts/demons coming out of the
bottomless pit.
The 4th trumpet is the sun and moon smitten.
The 3rd trumpet is the burning mountain falling in the sea.
The 2nd trumpet is the poisoning of the rivers.
the 1st trumpet is the burning of one third of the green.The trumpets are equal to the vials.
Blow the trumpet/pour out the vial.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 04 2013,08:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,04:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,23:05) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,12:05) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 02 2013,13:42) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,16:39) Quote wakeup. And that be at the end of the second resurrection ,and so after the 1000 years of Christ people of the first resurrection .
No Pierre,
Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection, at the coming.When the fullness of the gentiles come in ….happens just before the coming. To be specific, just before the mark is issued. Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed.
j42Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed. now this is false ;because the jews and the gentiles wii be resurrected in the second resurrection so after the 1000 years ,I do believe you are mixing the faithful true believers including the 144k and all others that will be resurrected in the second resurrection,
T.Here is a gift from your baby sitter.Read it.
Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power;
***and no man was able to *enter into* the temple***,
**till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled**.
Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, **and pour out the vials** of the *wrath of God* upon the earth.
THERE ARE SEVEN VIALS TO POUR.
THE TEMPLE IS CLOSED UNTILL ALL SEVEN VIALS ARE POURED.wakeup.
WI KNOW THOSE SCRIPTURES ,BUT I DO NOT SEE UNDERSTANDING ONLY THE COPY OF THOSE SCRIPTURES ;IT DOES NOT TELL ANYTHING ,IT COULD BE ALREADY PAST FOR WHAT WE KNOW ,SO EXPLAIN IF YOU HAVE THE WISDOM TO DO IT ,IF NOT KEEP SILENCE
TYou know that the coming will be at the last trump.
the 7th trumpet.
The 6th trumpet is the gathering of the armies.
the 5th trumpet is the locuts/demons coming out of the
bottomless pit.
The 4th trumpet is the sun and moon smitten.
The 3rd trumpet is the burning mountain falling in the sea.
The 2nd trumpet is the poisoning of the rivers.
the 1st trumpet is the burning of one third of the green.The trumpets are equal to the vials.
Blow the trumpet/pour out the vial.wakeup.
wagain you are now given me a short resume of the scriptures ,but there is no understanding or wisdom ,in it does it
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,13:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 04 2013,08:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,04:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,23:05) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,12:05) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 02 2013,13:42) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,16:39) Quote wakeup. And that be at the end of the second resurrection ,and so after the 1000 years of Christ people of the first resurrection .
No Pierre,
Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection, at the coming.When the fullness of the gentiles come in ….happens just before the coming. To be specific, just before the mark is issued. Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed.
j42Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,show me scriptures
Quote Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed. now this is false ;because the jews and the gentiles wii be resurrected in the second resurrection so after the 1000 years ,I do believe you are mixing the faithful true believers including the 144k and all others that will be resurrected in the second resurrection,
T.Here is a gift from your baby sitter.Read it.
Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power;
***and no man was able to *enter into* the temple***,
**till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled**.
Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, **and pour out the vials** of the *wrath of God* upon the earth.
THERE ARE SEVEN VIALS TO POUR.
THE TEMPLE IS CLOSED UNTILL ALL SEVEN VIALS ARE POURED.wakeup.
WI KNOW THOSE SCRIPTURES ,BUT I DO NOT SEE UNDERSTANDING ONLY THE COPY OF THOSE SCRIPTURES ;IT DOES NOT TELL ANYTHING ,IT COULD BE ALREADY PAST FOR WHAT WE KNOW ,SO EXPLAIN IF YOU HAVE THE WISDOM TO DO IT ,IF NOT KEEP SILENCE
TYou know that the coming will be at the last trump.
the 7th trumpet.
The 6th trumpet is the gathering of the armies.
the 5th trumpet is the locuts/demons coming out of the
bottomless pit.
The 4th trumpet is the sun and moon smitten.
The 3rd trumpet is the burning mountain falling in the sea.
The 2nd trumpet is the poisoning of the rivers.
the 1st trumpet is the burning of one third of the green.The trumpets are equal to the vials.
Blow the trumpet/pour out the vial.wakeup.
wagain you are now given me a short resume of the scriptures ,but there is no understanding or wisdom ,in it does it
T.The reason that I showed it backward,is so that you can
understand that the 7th trumpet is the coming.
so this means that the first trumpet has to be before the coming.
Before the 1st trumpet is blown there is the sealing of the 144k.(rev.7).To explain every trumpet will take much explaining.
wakeup.
W
If the trumpets will take much explanation it is because it won't be the truth,
A truth does not take a book to explain ,but lies do,I read somewhere that it take 7 more lies to cover only one lie ,so you can count how many it would take it you only start with 3lies
Or 7 lies that would be 49 lies plus the original 7 that is 56 lies a real book.
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,15:22) W If the trumpets will take much explanation it is because it won't be the truth,
A truth does not take a book to explain ,but lies do,I read somewhere that it take 7 more lies to cover only one lie ,so you can count how many it would take it you only start with 3lies
Or 7 lies that would be 49 lies plus the original 7 that is 56 lies a real book.
Good Terra,now you can give me the explanation.wakeup.
Hi Pierre,
Quote J42 Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,Quote show me scriptures
You are having fun ordering us around demanding scriptures all the time! This is very time consuming, and at the end of it, it won't be appreciated, but knocked.To refresh;
I said God will have mercy on the Jews just after the first resurrection.
The first resurrection happens at the return of Christ.
This is when all the dead in Christ will be resurrected to receive eternal life. They will rule with Christ for a thousand years.
If you read Revelations, you will see what will happen in Jerusalem.Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not, for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the “holy city” shall they “tread underfoot” forty and two months. (THE HOLY CITY IS JERUSALEM, WILL BE TAKEN OVER, OCCUPIED BY THE GENTILES FOR 3 1/2 YEARS. THIS CANNOT BE GOOD FOR ISRAEL AND GOD IS ALLOWING THIS. SO ISRAEL STILL NOT SAVED, FOLLOW ME SO FAR?)
So during this time, God will send his two prophets and they will preach there in Israel for 1260 days (nearly 3 1/2 years)
At the end of their testimony, they will be killed, and their dead bodies will lie in the streets for all to see. The world will celebrate because these two tormented them.Now take note please:
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of Life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. (THE REMNANT ARE THOSE WHO SURVIVED THE 7 TRUMPETS, AND THE GREAT EARTHQUAKE. THIS HAPPENED IN THE CITY …JERUSALEM.Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.
(THIS IS THE TAKEOVER BY CHRIST NOW)So we have the survivors of Israel (remnant), and also survivors of the world gentiles and Jews.
Now the Jews will come into the Kingdom. They are being called in. Christ has returned and now is when God will have mercy on them. They have just gone through war, their country has been overtaken, Armageddon has happened in their land. They have seen a lot of death and destruction. They have had NO ONE to help them.
Jeremiah 31:9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
Isaiah 5:25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcasses were torn in the midst of the streets, For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
Micah 4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
Micah 4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teasch us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Micah 4:3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nations, neither shall they learn war any more.
Micah 4:4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree, and none shall make them afraid; for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it.
Micah 4:5 For all the people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the Lord our god for ever and ever[
Micah 4:6 In that day says the Lord, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted.
Micah 4:7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforeth, even forever.
Micah 4:8 And thou, O tower of the flock, and the stronghold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion, the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.
Pierre
I said;
Quote Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed.
The 7 trumpets is the wrath of God, and time to punish Babylon the Great (NOTE: NOT PUNISH THE BELIEVERS)
This is when it's time. Time up for all those who are not in Christ. They will experience the 7 trumpets, which are the 7 plagues. It says NO MAN can enter heaven during this time.Rev 15:5 And after that I looked and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was OPENED.
REV 15:6 And the seven angels cameOUT of the TEMPLE, having the SEVEN PLAGUES, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
Rev 15:7 And one of the beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth forever and ever
Rev 15:8 And the TEMPLE was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and NO MAN was able to ENTER the TEMPLE, till the SEVEN ANGELS were FULFILLED.You said
Quote now this is false ;because the jews and the gentiles wii be resurrected in the second resurrection so after the 1000 years ,I do believe you are mixing the faithful true believers including the 144k and all others that will be resurrected in the second resurrection,
What is false? Yes the Jews & Gentiles will be resurrected in the 2nd resurrection. I never said that the ones that are called into the kingdom during the 1000 year reign are spirit? They are flesh and blood, and will be taught. The kingdom is set up on EARTH now. Jerusalem is the headquarters. Only the saints are spirit, those who were in the first resurrection. Not only 144,000 but all who died in Christ.All those who died in Christ will take part in THE FIRST RESURRECTION. When the fullness of the gentiles come in, they take part in the FIRST RESURRECTION. All the rest take part in the 2nd.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 04 2013,16:02) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,15:22) W If the trumpets will take much explanation it is because it won't be the truth,
A truth does not take a book to explain ,but lies do,I read somewhere that it take 7 more lies to cover only one lie ,so you can count how many it would take it you only start with 3lies
Or 7 lies that would be 49 lies plus the original 7 that is 56 lies a real book.
Good Terra,now you can give me the explanation.wakeup.
wwhy would I, you would not understand it ,you are still on milk ,and the preliminaries of the teachings of Christ ,
remember I tried this before and you have jump on me like a wild tiger ,
j42
Quote I said;
Quote
Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed.The 7 trumpets is the wrath of God, and time to punish Babylon the Great (NOTE: NOT PUNISH THE BELIEVERS)
This is when it's time. Time up for all those who are not in Christ. They will experience the 7 trumpets, which are the 7 plagues. It says NO MAN can enter heaven during this time.Rev 15:5 And after that I looked and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was OPENED.
REV 15:6 And the seven angels cameOUT of the TEMPLE, having the SEVEN PLAGUES, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
Rev 15:7 And one of the beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth forever and ever
Rev 15:8 And the TEMPLE was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and NO MAN was able to ENTER the TEMPLE, till the SEVEN ANGELS were FULFILLED.first I do not like your word BEAST in those scriptures BAD TRANSLATION “NO BEASTS IN HEAVEN ” I know you love your KJV but this is not good translation
secondly ;you are still mix up between those of the first resurrection and the second resurrection ,and also the timing of those events ;read the four gospels and Revelation including Paul's letter to the 1 Cor and also Colos; but do it without your predetermined mind and heart
j42
you said ;
Quote Then after that no gentile can come in during the period of the 7 trumpets, as heaven is closed. I said;
Quote now this is false ;because the jews and the gentiles wii be resurrected in the second resurrection so after the 1000 years ,I do believe you are mixing the faithful true believers including the 144k and all others that will be resurrected in the second resurrection, and now you say;
Quote What is false? Yes the Jews & Gentiles will be resurrected in the 2nd resurrection. I never said that the ones that are called into the kingdom during the 1000 year reign are spirit? They are flesh and blood, and will be taught. The kingdom is set up on EARTH now. Jerusalem is the headquarters. Only the saints are spirit, those who were in the first resurrection. Not only 144,000 but all who died in Christ. All those who died in Christ will take part in THE FIRST RESURRECTION. When the fullness of the gentiles come in, they take part in the FIRST RESURRECTION. All the rest take part in the 2nd.
show me scriptures that in the millenium their will be a resurrection
and who are they.this is correct ;All those who died in Christ will take part in THE FIRST RESURRECTION.Quote When the fullness of the gentiles come in, they take part in the FIRST RESURRECTION. so what you are saying is that THE NUMBER OF GENTILES WILL BE COMPLETED AT THE START OF THE MILLENIUM RIGHT
(OR FIRST RESURRECTION)Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 04 2013,19:49) Hi Pierre, Quote J42 Quote Not at the end of the 2nd resurrection.
God will have mercy on them just after the 1st resurrection,Quote show me scriptures
You are having fun ordering us around demanding scriptures all the time! This is very time consuming, and at the end of it, it won't be appreciated, but knocked.To refresh;
I said God will have mercy on the Jews just after the first resurrection.
The first resurrection happens at the return of Christ.
This is when all the dead in Christ will be resurrected to receive eternal life. They will rule with Christ for a thousand years.
If you read Revelations, you will see what will happen in Jerusalem.Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not, for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the “holy city” shall they “tread underfoot” forty and two months. (THE HOLY CITY IS JERUSALEM, WILL BE TAKEN OVER, OCCUPIED BY THE GENTILES FOR 3 1/2 YEARS. THIS CANNOT BE GOOD FOR ISRAEL AND GOD IS ALLOWING THIS. SO ISRAEL STILL NOT SAVED, FOLLOW ME SO FAR?)
So during this time, God will send his two prophets and they will preach there in Israel for 1260 days (nearly 3 1/2 years)
At the end of their testimony, they will be killed, and their dead bodies will lie in the streets for all to see. The world will celebrate because these two tormented them.Now take note please:
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of Life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. (THE REMNANT ARE THOSE WHO SURVIVED THE 7 TRUMPETS, AND THE GREAT EARTHQUAKE. THIS HAPPENED IN THE CITY …JERUSALEM.Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.
(THIS IS THE TAKEOVER BY CHRIST NOW)So we have the survivors of Israel (remnant), and also survivors of the world gentiles and Jews.
Now the Jews will come into the Kingdom. They are being called in. Christ has returned and now is when God will have mercy on them. They have just gone through war, their country has been overtaken, Armageddon has happened in their land. They have seen a lot of death and destruction. They have had NO ONE to help them.
Jeremiah 31:9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
Isaiah 5:25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcasses were torn in the midst of the streets, For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
Micah 4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
Micah 4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teasch us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Micah 4:3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nations, neither shall they learn war any more.
Micah 4:4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree, and none shall make them afraid; for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it.
Micah 4:5 For all the people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the Lord our god for ever and ever[
Micah 4:6 In that day says the Lord, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted.
Micah 4:7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforeth, even forever.
Micah 4:8 And thou, O tower of the flock, and the stronghold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion, the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.
J42all the scriptures in Micah are related to Christ coming ,
Isaiah 5:25[/b] Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcasses were torn in the midst of the streets, For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
this as well is related to Christ ,
the other scriptures from Revelation are miss understood by you ;
Rev 1:19 “Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later.
Pierre
Answer honestly please
When did the Jews come with weeping to the Lord?
When did God lead them?
Does not the scriptures say that they are still lost? , and salvation has gone out to the GENTILES?
When have they not stumbled?
God says he is a father to Israel here in Jer 31:9.
Didn't God say that they are not his children anymore?
SO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS HAPPENING HERE. OPEN YOUR EYES BROTHER DOUBT.It says in THE LAST DAYS.
The last days of What?
The mountain of the Lords house will be established….Are you concentrating, ….IN THE LAST DAYS it says.
Why wasn't it established already when Christ was here, or at his death?
I'll tell you, because it wasn't set up on EARTH.
IN THE LAST DAYS
IN THE LAST DAYSThere will be an actual PHYSICAL KINGDOM, where NATIONS can flow into, to learn the truth. THIS COMES STRAIGHT OUT OF ZION. ONE WORD, ONE TRUTH, ONE DOCTRINE. NO MORE LIES, NO MORE FALSE BIBLES, NO MORE MAN CONTROLLING THE WORD OF GOD.
Nations are just that. Not just people from nations, but NATIONS, will flow into the kingdom.
Is this happening today?
NATIONS ARE PHASING OUT the TRUE GOD AND HIS LAWS.And Christ shall judge among many people, NOT ALL, Because in the 2nd resurrection the rest will be judged. Later, not at his coming, so the time frame here is the COMING.
The Lord will rebuke strong nations afar off?
Has this happened? The strong nations are still in control.
He will beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks.
Has this happened?
Weapons of war turned into weapons of hunting.
Has this happened?
THEY SHALL NOT LEARN WAR ANYMORE?
How can you say this has happened.
Are you blind?
THE WORLD HAS NEVER HAD PEACE. WARS ARE STILL HAPPENING.THEY SHALL NOT LEARN WAR ANYMORE….
Everyman shall sit under his vine tree, and under his fig tree, and NONE SHALL MAKE THEM AFRAID
Don't the corporations control all the food now?
Havn't they modified the seeds so that they are hybrid?
Havn't they contaminated all the food with their cancer causing preservatives and additives, and fertilizers, and herbicides, insectisides, and fungicides?
We don't grow our own food. Some do, but 90% of people buy their food from the shops.
EVERY MAN IS SITTING UNDER THEIR OWN FRUIT TREE.
During the millennium, MAN WILL GROW HIS OWN FOOD.
Back to basics again. NO MORE BUSINESSESIN THAT DAY,
God will ASSEMBLE her that halteth (ISRAEL),
and will GATHER HER THAT IS DRIVEN OUT (ISRAEL)
HER…THE ONE HE HAS AFFLICTED (ISRAEL)And God will make her that halted (ISRAEL) a REMNANT, and her that was cast off (ISRAEL) a STRONG NATION?
EVEN THE LORD SHALL REIGN OVER THEM IN MT ZION FROM HENCEFORTH, EVEN FOREVER.
Is he reigning over them now? Are they listening to him now?
Did they ever really listen to him for long?
HE WILL REIGN OVER THEM FOREVER. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL. STUBBORN ISRAEL.SOMETHING IS CHANGED HERE. SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT. CAN YOU NOT SEE IT AS HE REVEALS IT TO US.
THIS IS NOT HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE, BUT FOR YOU ALSO.
WE ARE NOT GNOSTICS for we SHARE TO YOU ALSO as God as also given us.THERE WILL BE A FIRST DOMINION. THIS IS AFTER THE TAKEOVER. GOD CALLS IT THE FIRST DOMINION. WHEN CHRIST HAS JUDGED BABYLON THE GREAT, AND TAKES OVER ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH. HE IS IN CHARGE NOW. THE LAW COMES OUT OF ZION, AND OUT OF JERUSALEM. PHYSICAL JERUSALEM The City of Peace. The place chosen from the beginning. Christ is the rightful King, and has taken back what belongs to him….HIS THRONE.
DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN ISRAEL SOON. DO YOU NOT SEE THAT SHE WILL BE OCCUPIED BY THE TEN KINGS? DO YOU NOT READ THAT THE MEDES WILL CROSS OVER THE EUPHRATES RIVER DRIED UP AND THAT WAR WILL TAKE PLACE THERE IN ISRAEL. CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DEVASTATION COMING TO THEM?
CAN YOU NOT SEE ALL THE DEATH THEY WILL EXPERIENCE,
CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT CHRISTS COMES TO STOP THAT WAR, OR NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED?
CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT THERE WILL BE REMNANTS LEFT And because they have lost their homes etc, they will have no where to go,
and the Lord provides a place for them to live?What's your problem?
What scriptures in Revelations are misunderstood by me?
You are shooting off hot air. You can't even explain to me what I don't understand, for you don't understand them yourself? or you would explain, just like you demand we explain everything to you, and we do it in confidence, not hiding behind a tree.
Are you an honest man Pierre? Or just claiming to be righteous and all knowing?I love you brother but you are so stubborn.
Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 05 2013,07:55) Pierre Answer honestly please
When did the Jews come with weeping to the Lord?
When did God lead them?
Does not the scriptures say that they are still lost? , and salvation has gone out to the GENTILES?
When have they not stumbled?
God says he is a father to Israel here in Jer 31:9.
Didn't God say that they are not his children anymore?
SO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS HAPPENING HERE. OPEN YOUR EYES BROTHER DOUBT.It says in THE LAST DAYS.
The last days of What?
The mountain of the Lords house will be established….Are you concentrating, ….IN THE LAST DAYS it says.
Why wasn't it established already when Christ was here, or at his death?
I'll tell you, because it wasn't set up on EARTH.
IN THE LAST DAYS
IN THE LAST DAYSThere will be an actual PHYSICAL KINGDOM, where NATIONS can flow into, to learn the truth. THIS COMES STRAIGHT OUT OF ZION. ONE WORD, ONE TRUTH, ONE DOCTRINE. NO MORE LIES, NO MORE FALSE BIBLES, NO MORE MAN CONTROLLING THE WORD OF GOD.
Nations are just that. Not just people from nations, but NATIONS, will flow into the kingdom.
Is this happening today?
NATIONS ARE PHASING OUT the TRUE GOD AND HIS LAWS.And Christ shall judge among many people, NOT ALL, Because in the 2nd resurrection the rest will be judged. Later, not at his coming, so the time frame here is the COMING.
The Lord will rebuke strong nations afar off?
Has this happened? The strong nations are still in control.
He will beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks.
Has this happened?
Weapons of war turned into weapons of hunting.
Has this happened?
THEY SHALL NOT LEARN WAR ANYMORE?
How can you say this has happened.
Are you blind?
THE WORLD HAS NEVER HAD PEACE. WARS ARE STILL HAPPENING.THEY SHALL NOT LEARN WAR ANYMORE….
Everyman shall sit under his vine tree, and under his fig tree, and NONE SHALL MAKE THEM AFRAID
Don't the corporations control all the food now?
Havn't they modified the seeds so that they are hybrid?
Havn't they contaminated all the food with their cancer causing preservatives and additives, and fertilizers, and herbicides, insectisides, and fungicides?
We don't grow our own food. Some do, but 90% of people buy their food from the shops.
EVERY MAN IS SITTING UNDER THEIR OWN FRUIT TREE.
During the millennium, MAN WILL GROW HIS OWN FOOD.
Back to basics again. NO MORE BUSINESSESIN THAT DAY,
God will ASSEMBLE her that halteth (ISRAEL),
and will GATHER HER THAT IS DRIVEN OUT (ISRAEL)
HER…THE ONE HE HAS AFFLICTED (ISRAEL)And God will make her that halted (ISRAEL) a REMNANT, and her that was cast off (ISRAEL) a STRONG NATION?
EVEN THE LORD SHALL REIGN OVER THEM IN MT ZION FROM HENCEFORTH, EVEN FOREVER.
Is he reigning over them now? Are they listening to him now?
Did they ever really listen to him for long?
HE WILL REIGN OVER THEM FOREVER. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL. STUBBORN ISRAEL.SOMETHING IS CHANGED HERE. SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT. CAN YOU NOT SEE IT AS HE REVEALS IT TO US.
THIS IS NOT HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE, BUT FOR YOU ALSO.
WE ARE NOT GNOSTICS for we SHARE TO YOU ALSO as God as also given us.THERE WILL BE A FIRST DOMINION. THIS IS AFTER THE TAKEOVER. GOD CALLS IT THE FIRST DOMINION. WHEN CHRIST HAS JUDGED BABYLON THE GREAT, AND TAKES OVER ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH. HE IS IN CHARGE NOW. THE LAW COMES OUT OF ZION, AND OUT OF JERUSALEM. PHYSICAL JERUSALEM The City of Peace. The place chosen from the beginning. Christ is the rightful King, and has taken back what belongs to him….HIS THRONE.
DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN ISRAEL SOON. DO YOU NOT SEE THAT SHE WILL BE OCCUPIED BY THE TEN KINGS? DO YOU NOT READ THAT THE MEDES WILL CROSS OVER THE EUPHRATES RIVER DRIED UP AND THAT WAR WILL TAKE PLACE THERE IN ISRAEL. CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DEVASTATION COMING TO THEM?
CAN YOU NOT SEE ALL THE DEATH THEY WILL EXPERIENCE,
CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT CHRISTS COMES TO STOP THAT WAR, OR NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED?
CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT THERE WILL BE REMNANTS LEFT And because they have lost their homes etc, they will have no where to go,
and the Lord provides a place for them to live?What's your problem?
What scriptures in Revelations are misunderstood by me?
You are shooting off hot air. You can't even explain to me what I don't understand, for you don't understand them yourself? or you would explain, just like you demand we explain everything to you, and we do it in confidence, not hiding behind a tree.
Are you an honest man Pierre? Or just claiming to be righteous and all knowing?I love you brother but you are so stubborn.
j42you did not answer my questions
Quote God says he is a father to Israel here in Jer 31:9. this is said as a prophecy because the 144k became sons of God and also to all the faithful believers when all is done after the second resurrection ;God statement will be totally true ,(it started with Christ )
most of the other scriptures a related to Christ works and gospel teachings
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2013,13:27) Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 05 2013,07:55) Pierre Answer honestly please
When did the Jews come with weeping to the Lord?
When did God lead them?
Does not the scriptures say that they are still lost? , and salvation has gone out to the GENTILES?
When have they not stumbled?
God says he is a father to Israel here in Jer 31:9.
Didn't God say that they are not his children anymore?
SO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS HAPPENING HERE. OPEN YOUR EYES BROTHER DOUBT.It says in THE LAST DAYS.
The last days of What?
The mountain of the Lords house will be established….Are you concentrating, ….IN THE LAST DAYS it says.
Why wasn't it established already when Christ was here, or at his death?
I'll tell you, because it wasn't set up on EARTH.
IN THE LAST DAYS
IN THE LAST DAYSThere will be an actual PHYSICAL KINGDOM, where NATIONS can flow into, to learn the truth. THIS COMES STRAIGHT OUT OF ZION. ONE WORD, ONE TRUTH, ONE DOCTRINE. NO MORE LIES, NO MORE FALSE BIBLES, NO MORE MAN CONTROLLING THE WORD OF GOD.
Nations are just that. Not just people from nations, but NATIONS, will flow into the kingdom.
Is this happening today?
NATIONS ARE PHASING OUT the TRUE GOD AND HIS LAWS.And Christ shall judge among many people, NOT ALL, Because in the 2nd resurrection the rest will be judged. Later, not at his coming, so the time frame here is the COMING.
The Lord will rebuke strong nations afar off?
Has this happened? The strong nations are still in control.
He will beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks.
Has this happened?
Weapons of war turned into weapons of hunting.
Has this happened?
THEY SHALL NOT LEARN WAR ANYMORE?
How can you say this has happened.
Are you blind?
THE WORLD HAS NEVER HAD PEACE. WARS ARE STILL HAPPENING.THEY SHALL NOT LEARN WAR ANYMORE….
Everyman shall sit under his vine tree, and under his fig tree, and NONE SHALL MAKE THEM AFRAID
Don't the corporations control all the food now?
Havn't they modified the seeds so that they are hybrid?
Havn't they contaminated all the food with their cancer causing preservatives and additives, and fertilizers, and herbicides, insectisides, and fungicides?
We don't grow our own food. Some do, but 90% of people buy their food from the shops.
EVERY MAN IS SITTING UNDER THEIR OWN FRUIT TREE.
During the millennium, MAN WILL GROW HIS OWN FOOD.
Back to basics again. NO MORE BUSINESSESIN THAT DAY,
God will ASSEMBLE her that halteth (ISRAEL),
and will GATHER HER THAT IS DRIVEN OUT (ISRAEL)
HER…THE ONE HE HAS AFFLICTED (ISRAEL)And God will make her that halted (ISRAEL) a REMNANT, and her that was cast off (ISRAEL) a STRONG NATION?
EVEN THE LORD SHALL REIGN OVER THEM IN MT ZION FROM HENCEFORTH, EVEN FOREVER.
Is he reigning over them now? Are they listening to him now?
Did they ever really listen to him for long?
HE WILL REIGN OVER THEM FOREVER. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL. STUBBORN ISRAEL.SOMETHING IS CHANGED HERE. SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT. CAN YOU NOT SEE IT AS HE REVEALS IT TO US.
THIS IS NOT HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE, BUT FOR YOU ALSO.
WE ARE NOT GNOSTICS for we SHARE TO YOU ALSO as God as also given us.THERE WILL BE A FIRST DOMINION. THIS IS AFTER THE TAKEOVER. GOD CALLS IT THE FIRST DOMINION. WHEN CHRIST HAS JUDGED BABYLON THE GREAT, AND TAKES OVER ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH. HE IS IN CHARGE NOW. THE LAW COMES OUT OF ZION, AND OUT OF JERUSALEM. PHYSICAL JERUSALEM The City of Peace. The place chosen from the beginning. Christ is the rightful King, and has taken back what belongs to him….HIS THRONE.
DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN ISRAEL SOON. DO YOU NOT SEE THAT SHE WILL BE OCCUPIED BY THE TEN KINGS? DO YOU NOT READ THAT THE MEDES WILL CROSS OVER THE EUPHRATES RIVER DRIED UP AND THAT WAR WILL TAKE PLACE THERE IN ISRAEL. CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DEVASTATION COMING TO THEM?
CAN YOU NOT SEE ALL THE DEATH THEY WILL EXPERIENCE,
CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT CHRISTS COMES TO STOP THAT WAR, OR NO FLESH SHALL BE SAVED?
CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT THERE WILL BE REMNANTS LEFT And because they have lost their homes etc, they will have no where to go,
and the Lord provides a place for them to live?What's your problem?
What scriptures in Revelations are misunderstood by me?
You are shooting off hot air. You can't even explain to me what I don't understand, for you don't understand them yourself? or you would explain, just like you demand we explain everything to you, and we do it in confidence, not hiding behind a tree.
Are you an honest man Pierre? Or just claiming to be righteous and all knowing?I love you brother but you are so stubborn.
j42you did not answer my questions
Quote God says he is a father to Israel here in Jer 31:9. this is said as a prophecy because the 144k became sons of God and also to all the faithful believers when all is done after the second resurrection ;God statement will be totally true ,(it started with Christ )
most of the other scriptures a related to Christ works and gospel teachings
T.Just as israel is blinded and so are you.
Those scriptures J42 brought forth,
was so clear and simple;and you still can not see?Lord My God the land is desolate indeed
as you have prophesied.wakeup.
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