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  • #360087
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,21:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:47)
    why would anyone give up his rights to communicate ,and share God's truth that may come directly to him through the spirit of truth ,and give that away to an men organization and so lose direct contact with God and his son Jesus Christ ;???

    this would be a big lost ;


    Terra.

    You are speaking of yourself.
    You denied scriptures;  saying that God is finished with the jews.
    Scripture says otherwise.

    wakeup.


    God is fnished with the Jews.

    #360099
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Oct. 25 2013,07:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,21:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:47)
    why would anyone give up his rights to communicate ,and share God's truth that may come directly to him through the spirit of truth ,and give that away to an men organization and so lose direct contact with God and his son Jesus Christ ;???

    this would be a big lost ;


    Terra.

    You are speaking of yourself.
    You denied scriptures;  saying that God is finished with the jews.
    Scripture says otherwise.

    wakeup.


    God is fnished with the Jews.


    Kjack.

    Not so: Here is proof.

    Jeremiah 23:3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them **AGAIN** to their folds; and they shall be **fruitful** and increase. (AGAIN; SECOND TIME). THIS TIME THEY WILL BE FRUITFUL.

    Jeremiah 23:4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall **fear no more**, nor be dismayed, neither shall they **be lacking**, saith the LORD.( THEY SHALL FEAR NO MORE).

    Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise **unto David a righteous Branch**, and **a King shall reign** and prosper**, and shall execute judgment and **justice in the earth**.
    (JESUS WILL BE KING OF KINGS IN ISRAEL,AND EXECUTE
    JUSTICE IN *ALL* THE EARTH).

    Jeremiah 23:6 **In his days Judah shall be saved**, and **Israel shall dwell safely**: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, **THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS**.
    (JUDAH/christians, SHALL BE SAVED). AND ISRAEL/JEWS SHALL DWELL SAFELY;IN THE FLESH.

    Jeremiah 23:7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

    Jeremiah 23:8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the **seed of the house of Israel** out of the north country, and from **all countries** whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in **their own land**.
    AS YOU CAN SEE;SCRIPTURE SAYS GOD IS STILL WITH ISRAEL.
    WHEN THE PREACHING TO THE GENTILES HAS COME TO THE FULL;GOD WILL OPEN THE BLINDNESS OF ISRAEL.

    wakeup.

    #360105
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2013,05:12)

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Oct. 25 2013,07:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,21:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:47)
    why would anyone give up his rights to communicate ,and share God's truth that may come directly to him through the spirit of truth ,and give that away to an men organization and so lose direct contact with God and his son Jesus Christ ;???

    this would be a big lost ;


    Terra.

    You are speaking of yourself.
    You denied scriptures;  saying that God is finished with the jews.
    Scripture says otherwise.

    wakeup.


    God is fnished with the Jews.


    Kjack.

    Not so: Here is proof.

    Jeremiah 23:3   And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them **AGAIN** to their folds; and they shall be **fruitful** and increase. (AGAIN; SECOND TIME). THIS TIME THEY WILL BE FRUITFUL.

     Jeremiah 23:4   And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall **fear no more**, nor be dismayed, neither shall they **be lacking**, saith the LORD.( THEY SHALL FEAR NO MORE).

     Jeremiah 23:5   Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise **unto David a righteous Branch**, and **a King shall reign** and prosper**, and shall execute judgment and **justice in the earth**.
    (JESUS WILL BE KING OF KINGS IN ISRAEL,AND EXECUTE
    JUSTICE IN *ALL* THE EARTH).

     Jeremiah 23:6   **In his days Judah shall be saved**, and **Israel shall dwell safely**: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, **THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS**.
    (JUDAH/christians, SHALL BE SAVED). AND ISRAEL/JEWS SHALL DWELL SAFELY;IN THE FLESH.

     Jeremiah 23:7   Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

     Jeremiah 23:8   But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the **seed of the house of Israel** out of the north country, and from **all countries** whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in **their own land**.
    AS YOU CAN SEE;SCRIPTURE SAYS GOD IS STILL WITH ISRAEL.
    WHEN THE PREACHING TO THE GENTILES HAS COME TO THE FULL;GOD WILL OPEN THE BLINDNESS OF ISRAEL.

     wakeup.


    wakeup

    Jer 23:1 “Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!” declares the LORD.
    Jer 23:2 Therefore this is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says to the shepherds who tend my people: “Because you have scattered my flock and driven them away and have not bestowed care on them, I will bestow punishment on you for the evil you have done,” declares the LORD.
    Jer 23:3 “I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number.
    Jer 23:4 I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing,” declares the LORD.
    Jer 23:5 “The days are coming,” declares the LORD,
    “when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch,
    a King who will reign wisely
    and do what is just and right in the land.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah will be saved
    and Israel will live in safety.
    This is the name by which he will be called:
    The LORD Our Righteousness.

    this is directly a reference to Jesus Christ ;the king and messiah that will come ;the BRANCH OF DAVID;

    Jer 23:8 but they will say, ‘As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the descendants of Israel up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.’ Then they will live in their own land.”

    Jn 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
    Jn 17:7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you.
    Jn 17:8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.

    Jn 17:18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world.
    Jn 17:19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.

    THE KINGDOM OF GOD HIS THEIR NEW LAND

    #360117
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2013,10:12)

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Oct. 25 2013,07:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,21:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:47)
    why would anyone give up his rights to communicate ,and share God's truth that may come directly to him through the spirit of truth ,and give that away to an men organization and so lose direct contact with God and his son Jesus Christ ;???

    this would be a big lost ;


    Terra.

    You are speaking of yourself.
    You denied scriptures;  saying that God is finished with the jews.
    Scripture says otherwise.

    wakeup.


    God is fnished with the Jews.


    Kjack.

    Not so: Here is proof.

    Jeremiah 23:3   And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them **AGAIN** to their folds; and they shall be **fruitful** and increase. (AGAIN; SECOND TIME). THIS TIME THEY WILL BE FRUITFUL.

     Jeremiah 23:4   And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall **fear no more**, nor be dismayed, neither shall they **be lacking**, saith the LORD.( THEY SHALL FEAR NO MORE).

     Jeremiah 23:5   Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise **unto David a righteous Branch**, and **a King shall reign** and prosper**, and shall execute judgment and **justice in the earth**.
    (JESUS WILL BE KING OF KINGS IN ISRAEL,AND EXECUTE
    JUSTICE IN *ALL* THE EARTH).

     Jeremiah 23:6   **In his days Judah shall be saved**, and **Israel shall dwell safely**: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, **THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS**.
    (JUDAH/christians, SHALL BE SAVED). AND ISRAEL/JEWS SHALL DWELL SAFELY;IN THE FLESH.

     Jeremiah 23:7   Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

     Jeremiah 23:8   But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the **seed of the house of Israel** out of the north country, and from **all countries** whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in **their own land**.
    AS YOU CAN SEE;SCRIPTURE SAYS GOD IS STILL WITH ISRAEL.
    WHEN THE PREACHING TO THE GENTILES HAS COME TO THE FULL;GOD WILL OPEN THE BLINDNESS OF ISRAEL.

     wakeup.


    Jesus said that the kingdom was “TAKEN AWAY” from them and given to another nation (Matthew 21:43).

    You better re-examine your view of old testament prophecies for Jesus disagrees with you.

    #360121
    terraricca
    Participant

    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers

    #360139
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    More proof that God is finished with Israel. Jesus told them that “the ax is already laid at the root of the tree.”

    The tree was Israel and Jesus said that it would be cut down at the root. It was not going to be pruned and made better. It was going to be cut down at the root.

    A tree that is cut down at the root is FINISHED for good.

    #360145
    terraricca
    Participant

    kj

    WAKEUP does not understand this ;he really believes that Israel is the pivot of the end time prophecy in scriptures ;no matter how many scriptures we show him ,

    #360160
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,10:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2013,05:12)

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Oct. 25 2013,07:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,21:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:47)
    why would anyone give up his rights to communicate ,and share God's truth that may come directly to him through the spirit of truth ,and give that away to an men organization and so lose direct contact with God and his son Jesus Christ ;???

    this would be a big lost ;


    Terra.

    You are speaking of yourself.
    You denied scriptures;  saying that God is finished with the jews.
    Scripture says otherwise.

    wakeup.


    God is fnished with the Jews.


    Kjack.

    Not so: Here is proof.

    Jeremiah 23:3   And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them **AGAIN** to their folds; and they shall be **fruitful** and increase. (AGAIN; SECOND TIME). THIS TIME THEY WILL BE FRUITFUL.

     Jeremiah 23:4   And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall **fear no more**, nor be dismayed, neither shall they **be lacking**, saith the LORD.( THEY SHALL FEAR NO MORE).

     Jeremiah 23:5   Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise **unto David a righteous Branch**, and **a King shall reign** and prosper**, and shall execute judgment and **justice in the earth**.
    (JESUS WILL BE KING OF KINGS IN ISRAEL,AND EXECUTE
    JUSTICE IN *ALL* THE EARTH).

     Jeremiah 23:6   **In his days Judah shall be saved**, and **Israel shall dwell safely**: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, **THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS**.
    (JUDAH/christians, SHALL BE SAVED). AND ISRAEL/JEWS SHALL DWELL SAFELY;IN THE FLESH.

     Jeremiah 23:7   Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

     Jeremiah 23:8   But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the **seed of the house of Israel** out of the north country, and from **all countries** whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in **their own land**.
    AS YOU CAN SEE;SCRIPTURE SAYS GOD IS STILL WITH ISRAEL.
    WHEN THE PREACHING TO THE GENTILES HAS COME TO THE FULL;GOD WILL OPEN THE BLINDNESS OF ISRAEL.

     wakeup.


    wakeup

    Jer 23:1 “Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!” declares the LORD.
    Jer 23:2 Therefore this is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says to the shepherds who tend my people: “Because you have scattered my flock and driven them away and have not bestowed care on them, I will bestow punishment on you for the evil you have done,” declares the LORD.
    Jer 23:3 “I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number.
    Jer 23:4 I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing,” declares the LORD.
    Jer 23:5 “The days are coming,” declares the LORD,
    “when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch,
    a King who will reign wisely
    and do what is just and right in the land.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah will be saved
    and Israel will live in safety.
    This is the name by which he will be called:
    The LORD Our Righteousness.

    this is directly a reference to Jesus Christ ;the king and messiah that will come ;the BRANCH OF DAVID;

    Jer 23:8 but they will say, ‘As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the descendants of Israel up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.’ Then they will live in their own land.”

    Jn 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
    Jn 17:7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you.
    Jn 17:8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.

    Jn 17:18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world.
    Jn 17:19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.

    THE KINGDOM OF GOD HIS THEIR NEW LAND


    Terra.

    Jeremiah was speaking of israel/jews.
    God will bring them back to their *OWN LAND*(israel).
    (God is not finished with the jews).

    Below; is Jesus speaking of his disciples.

    (QUOTE):
    Jn 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
    Jn 17:7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you.
    Jn 17:8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.

    Jn 17:18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world.
    Jn 17:19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.

    THE KINGDOM OF GOD HIS THEIR NEW LAND.(UNQUOTE).

    The kingdom of God is their new land;yes.
    Jerusalem/israel.

    wakeup.

    #360166
    terraricca
    Participant

    W

    Quote
    Jeremiah was speaking of israel/jews.
    God will bring them back to their *OWN LAND*(israel).
    (God is not finished with the jews).

    what land was the promise based on ??? was it canaan or the true kingdom of Christ to come ???

    was it the physical world the real one or is it the spiritual world the real one ???

    #360285
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    I quoted Jer.23:verse 3–8.
    I can quote all chapter,but then
    complains will come in.
    from verse 3–8 is not bits of scripture.
    If your foundation is strong;you should not worry.
    But make corrections. Not slander.

    wakeup.

    #360286
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Oct. 25 2013,11:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2013,10:12)

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Oct. 25 2013,07:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,21:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:47)
    why would anyone give up his rights to communicate ,and share God's truth that may come directly to him through the spirit of truth ,and give that away to an men organization and so lose direct contact with God and his son Jesus Christ ;???

    this would be a big lost ;


    Terra.

    You are speaking of yourself.
    You denied scriptures;  saying that God is finished with the jews.
    Scripture says otherwise.

    wakeup.


    God is fnished with the Jews.


    Kjack.

    Not so: Here is proof.

    Jeremiah 23:3   And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them **AGAIN** to their folds; and they shall be **fruitful** and increase. (AGAIN; SECOND TIME). THIS TIME THEY WILL BE FRUITFUL.

     Jeremiah 23:4   And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall **fear no more**, nor be dismayed, neither shall they **be lacking**, saith the LORD.( THEY SHALL FEAR NO MORE).

     Jeremiah 23:5   Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise **unto David a righteous Branch**, and **a King shall reign** and prosper**, and shall execute judgment and **justice in the earth**.
    (JESUS WILL BE KING OF KINGS IN ISRAEL,AND EXECUTE
    JUSTICE IN *ALL* THE EARTH).

     Jeremiah 23:6   **In his days Judah shall be saved**, and **Israel shall dwell safely**: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, **THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS**.
    (JUDAH/christians, SHALL BE SAVED). AND ISRAEL/JEWS SHALL DWELL SAFELY;IN THE FLESH.

     Jeremiah 23:7   Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

     Jeremiah 23:8   But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the **seed of the house of Israel** out of the north country, and from **all countries** whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in **their own land**.
    AS YOU CAN SEE;SCRIPTURE SAYS GOD IS STILL WITH ISRAEL.
    WHEN THE PREACHING TO THE GENTILES HAS COME TO THE FULL;GOD WILL OPEN THE BLINDNESS OF ISRAEL.

     wakeup.


    Jesus said that the kingdom was “TAKEN AWAY” from them and given to another nation (Matthew 21:43).

    You better re-examine your view of old testament prophecies for Jesus disagrees with you.


    Kjack.

    Jesus was then speaking to the scribes and pharisees.

    You need to read all this to understand.
    spend your time reading this.

    Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

    Romans 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,

    Romans 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

    Romans 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

    Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

    Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

    Romans 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

    Romans 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

    Romans 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

    Romans 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

    Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

    Romans 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

    Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

    Romans 11:14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

    Romans 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

    Romans 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

    Romans 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

    Romans 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

    Romans 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

    Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

    Romans 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

    Romans 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

    Romans 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

    Romans 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

    Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

    Romans 11:27 For this is my cov
    enant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

    Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

    Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

    Romans 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

    Romans 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

    Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

    Romans 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

    Romans 11:35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

    Romans 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

    wakeup.

    #360287
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    You need to read Romans 11 to.
    And dont say its too much to read.
    For you dont like bits here and there.

    wakeup.

    #360300
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,14:39)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    You need to read Romans 11 to.
    And dont say its too much to read.
    For you dont like bits here and there.

    wakeup.


    W

    I have read that letter many,many ,times ,what is you want to bring to my attention in that letter ???

    and remember this letter is addressed to ;
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    Ro 1:7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:

    the key ; obedience that comes from faith.

    #360364
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,14:39)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    You need to read Romans 11 to.
    And dont say its too much to read.
    For you dont like bits here and there.

    wakeup.


    W

    I have read that letter many,many ,times ,what is you want to bring to my attention in that letter ???

    and remember this letter is addressed to ;
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    Ro 1:7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:

    the key ; obedience that comes from faith.


    Terra.

    You need to learn to read properly.

    Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel,

    !!*****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    ( He was speaking to the romans and not to us is a silly comment ).
    ( Paul was preaching to the gentiles back then).
    ( He is not speaking to us in person,today is he)?
    (have you ever met him)? (where does he live)?
    (does he live in your granny flat)?

    wakeup.

    #360374
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,16:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,14:39)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    You need to read Romans 11 to.
    And dont say its too much to read.
    For you dont like bits here and there.

    wakeup.


    W

    I have read that letter many,many ,times ,what is you want to bring to my attention in that letter ???

    and remember this letter is addressed to ;
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    Ro 1:7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:

    the key ; obedience that comes from faith.


    Terra.

    You need to learn to read properly.

    Romans 11:25   For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel,

    !!*****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    ( He was speaking to the romans and not to us is a silly comment ).
    ( Paul was preaching to the gentiles back then).
    ( He is not speaking to us in person,today is he)?
    (have you ever met him)? (where does he live)?
    (does he live in your granny flat)?

    wakeup.


    W

    READ THE SCRIPTURES THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU

    #360397
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,04:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,16:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,14:39)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    You need to read Romans 11 to.
    And dont say its too much to read.
    For you dont like bits here and there.

    wakeup.


    W

    I have read that letter many,many ,times ,what is you want to bring to my attention in that letter ???

    and remember this letter is addressed to ;
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    Ro 1:7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:

    the key ; obedience that comes from faith.


    Terra.

    You need to learn to read properly.

    Romans 11:25   For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel,

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    ( He was speaking to the romans and not to us is a silly comment ).
    ( Paul was preaching to the gentiles back then).
    ( He is not speaking to us in person,today is he)?
    (have you ever met him)? (where does he live)?
    (does he live in your granny flat)?

    wakeup.


    W

    READ THE SCRIPTURES THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU


    Terra.

    What do these words mean?

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    Please explain,to clarify the meaning of those words.

    wakeup.

    #360402
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,01:34)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,04:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,16:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,14:39)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    You need to read Romans 11 to.
    And dont say its too much to read.
    For you dont like bits here and there.

    wakeup.


    W

    I have read that letter many,many ,times ,what is you want to bring to my attention in that letter ???

    and remember this letter is addressed to ;
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    Ro 1:7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:

    the key ; obedience that comes from faith.


    Terra.

    You need to learn to read properly.

    Romans 11:25   For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel,

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    ( He was speaking to the romans and not to us is a silly comment ).
    ( Paul was preaching to the gentiles back then).
    ( He is not speaking to us in person,today is he)?
    (have you ever met him)? (where does he live)?
    (does he live in your granny flat)?

    wakeup.


    W

    READ THE SCRIPTURES THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU


    Terra.

    What do these words mean?
    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    Please explain,to clarify the meaning of those words.

    wakeup.


    W

    THOSE WORDS MEANS THAT ;THE NUMBER TO BE ADDED TO THE SO CALLED JEWS TO FORMED THE COMPLETE NUMBER OF 144000 REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH (REVELATION 7 &14) ALL OTHER WILL BE FOR THE EARTH

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    NUMBER JEWS ? + NUMBER OF GENTILES ? = 144000

    #360452
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,06:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,01:34)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,04:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,16:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,14:39)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    You need to read Romans 11 to.
    And dont say its too much to read.
    For you dont like bits here and there.

    wakeup.


    W

    I have read that letter many,many ,times ,what is you want to bring to my attention in that letter ???

    and remember this letter is addressed to ;
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    Ro 1:7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:

    the key ; obedience that comes from faith.


    Terra.

    You need to learn to read properly.

    Romans 11:25   For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel,

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    ( He was speaking to the romans and not to us is a silly comment ).
    ( Paul was preaching to the gentiles back then).
    ( He is not speaking to us in person,today is he)?
    (have you ever met him)? (where does he live)?
    (does he live in your granny flat)?

    wakeup.


    W

    READ THE SCRIPTURES THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU


    Terra.

    What do these words mean?
    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    Please explain,to clarify the meaning of those words.

    wakeup.


    W

    THOSE WORDS MEANS THAT ;THE NUMBER TO BE ADDED TO THE SO CALLED JEWS TO FORMED THE COMPLETE NUMBER OF 144000 REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH (REVELATION 7 &14) ALL OTHER WILL BE FOR THE EARTH

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    NUMBER JEWS ? + NUMBER OF GENTILES ? = 144000


    Terra.

    You: the judge: are adding your own
    words to the meaning.
    The scripture says gentiles.
    You added the word jews into that scripture.
    You are no different than some here.

    !!* ****UNTIL* the fulness of the *Gentiles* be come in*****!!.

    Wakeup.

    #360457
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,09:08)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,06:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,01:34)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,04:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,16:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,14:39)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    You need to read Romans 11 to.
    And dont say its too much to read.
    For you dont like bits here and there.

    wakeup.


    W

    I have read that letter many,many ,times ,what is you want to bring to my attention in that letter ???

    and remember this letter is addressed to ;
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    Ro 1:7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:

    the key ; obedience that comes from faith.


    Terra.

    You need to learn to read properly.

    Romans 11:25   For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel,

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    ( He was speaking to the romans and not to us is a silly comment ).
    ( Paul was preaching to the gentiles back then).
    ( He is not speaking to us in person,today is he)?
    (have you ever met him)? (where does he live)?
    (does he live in your granny flat)?

    wakeup.


    W

    READ THE SCRIPTURES THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU


    Terra.

    What do these words mean?
    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    Please explain,to clarify the meaning of those words.

    wakeup.


    W

    THOSE WORDS MEANS THAT ;THE NUMBER TO BE ADDED TO THE SO CALLED JEWS TO FORMED THE COMPLETE NUMBER OF 144000 REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH (REVELATION 7 &14) ALL OTHER WILL BE FOR THE EARTH

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    NUMBER JEWS ? + NUMBER OF GENTILES ? = 144000


    Terra.

    You: the judge: are adding your own
    words to the meaning.
    The scripture says gentiles.
    You added the word jews into that scripture.
    You are no different than some here.

     !!* ****UNTIL* the fulness of the *Gentiles* be come in*****!!.

    Wakeup.


    W

    You are very deceitful in your statement ;answer me this : where the Jews no the true Remanant that where collected from all the tribes of Israel ??? Was not Christ send to the Jews first ???

    Did the apostles not walked all of the land of Israel to gather all the lost sheeps of Christ,for about 3.5 years before Peter received the call to go to the Gentiles ???

    This is why I show Jews+ gentitles = 144000 redeemed from the earth,

    Do you now understand ???

    #360465
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,14:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,09:08)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,06:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,01:34)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,04:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,16:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,14:39)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,12:14)
    if you are a believer you should not tell stories by taking bits and pieces from here and there and try to make someone believe that your interpretation is true ;so show your truth by quoting the whole scripture verses ,not hiding anything ,

    this is the way of the true believers


    Terra.

    You need to read Romans 11 to.
    And dont say its too much to read.
    For you dont like bits here and there.

    wakeup.


    W

    I have read that letter many,many ,times ,what is you want to bring to my attention in that letter ???

    and remember this letter is addressed to ;
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    Ro 1:7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints:

    the key ; obedience that comes from faith.


    Terra.

    You need to learn to read properly.

    Romans 11:25   For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel,

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    ( He was speaking to the romans and not to us is a silly comment ).
    ( Paul was preaching to the gentiles back then).
    ( He is not speaking to us in person,today is he)?
    (have you ever met him)? (where does he live)?
    (does he live in your granny flat)?

    wakeup.


    W

    READ THE SCRIPTURES THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU


    Terra.

    What do these words mean?
    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    Please explain,to clarify the meaning of those words.

    wakeup.


    W

    THOSE WORDS MEANS THAT ;THE NUMBER TO BE ADDED TO THE SO CALLED JEWS TO FORMED THE COMPLETE NUMBER OF 144000 REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH (REVELATION 7 &14) ALL OTHER WILL BE FOR THE EARTH

    !!* ****until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in*****!!.

    NUMBER JEWS ? + NUMBER OF GENTILES ? = 144000


    Terra.

    You: the judge: are adding your own
    words to the meaning.
    The scripture says gentiles.
    You added the word jews into that scripture.
    You are no different than some here.

     !!* ****UNTIL* the fulness of the *Gentiles* be come in*****!!.

    Wakeup.


    W

    You are very deceitful in your statement ;answer me this : where the Jews no the true Remanant that where collected from all the tribes of Israel ??? Was not Christ send to the Jews first ???

    Did the apostles not walked all of the land of Israel to gather all the lost sheeps of Christ,for about 3.5 years before Peter received the call to go to the Gentiles ???

    This is why I show Jews+ gentitles = 144000 redeemed from the earth,

    Do you now understand ???


    Terra.

    Where is the WORD JEWS in the sentence?

    !!* ****UNTIL** the fulness of the *Gentiles* be come in*****!!.

    THE JEWS ARE BLINDED ***UNTILL*** THE FULNESS OF THE GENTILES ***BE COME IN****.
    THIS MEANS THAT THEY WILL *NOT BE BLINDED FOR EVER*,
    BUT **UNTILL** THE FULNESS OF THE GENTILES BE COME IN.

    You are the deceiver here adding and spinning
    the Word of God,for own gain.

    wakeup.

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