Are you a believer ?

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  • #367562
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2014,19:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,12:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2014,15:46)

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2014,12:21)
    w

    like i said before Israel of today is of no interest for me because i do not see why a corrupted nation would have anything to do with God

    it is for those reason that God divorce her ,now you try to bring this men made nation into the principal corner stone for God's event ???

    No ,i disagree


    T.

    I told you that israel today is also not in favour.
    Therefore God is going to punish her.
    But God only favours his chosen jews,the elect.
    They will be brought back,and put in paradise,where the lion will eat straw.
    And the resurrected saints will be their kings and priests
    and teachers.
    The elect jews will consist of all generations.
    Today also will be some elect jews chosen by God.

    wakeup.


    w

    Israel time was over in 70 ad


    T.

    Why did God say; I will bring you back in your own land,
    and you will live in peace?

    wakeup.


    W

    Those words are addressed to God's people who are God's people ???

    Are they not the true believers ???


    T.

    God was addressing the jews/israel.
    Why would God bring back the gentiles?
    The gentiles have never been rejected by God.
    Why would God bring them back?
    Back from where;what?

    wakeup.

    #367576
    terraricca
    Participant

    w

    Quote
    T.

    God was addressing the jews/israel.
    Why would God bring back the gentiles?
    The gentiles have never been rejected by God.
    Why would God bring them back?
    Back from where;what?

    wakeup.

    if you truly read the scriptures and understand it ,you should know that God's people are the ones that recognize him worship him as appropriate to him, that obey his laws follows his ways not the ways of the wicked ,

    and those are his people no matter where they are on the globe

    #367608
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2014,04:42)
    w

    Quote
    T.

    God was addressing the jews/israel.
    Why would God bring back the gentiles?
    The gentiles have never been rejected by God.
    Why would God bring them back?
    Back from where;what?

    wakeup.

    if you truly read the scriptures and understand it ,you should know that God's people are the ones that recognize him worship him as appropriate to him, that obey his laws follows his ways not the ways of the wicked ,

    and those are his people no matter where they are on the globe


    For all to read.

    Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather *all nations against* **Jerusalem** to battle;(kings of the north), and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and *half of the city* shall go forth into captivity, and the *residue*(remnant) of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

    Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. (rev.19).

    Zechariah 14:4 And *his feet *shall* stand* in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

    Revelation 16:19 And the great city was *divided into three parts*(jerusalem), and the *cities of the nations fell*: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

    Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled *from before the earthquake* in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and **all the saints with thee**.
    (rev.11:13.)(matt.24:16–19).

    Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

    Zechariah 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

    Zechariah 14:8 And it shall be in **that day**, that
    **living waters**
    shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

    Zechariah 14:9 ***And the LORD shall be king over all
    the earth***:
    in that day shall there be **one LORD, and his name one**.

    JERUSALEM IS NOT FORGOTTEN, AND SO ARE THE JEWS.
    GOD WILL CHOOSE JERUSALEM AGAIN.

    wakeup.

    #367623
    terraricca
    Participant

    W

    Those scriptures belong to the heavenly Jerusalem and the new earthly Israel

    #367632
    Wakeup
    Participant

    I am also dealing with babes.

    1. Is God going to choose heavenly jerusalem again?
    Since when was heavenly Jerusalem lost?
    2. Is God going to split heavenly jerusalem in three?
    3.Is heavenly jerusalem going to be taken by armies?
    4.Are people to flee to the mountains of the heavenly
    jerusalem?

    Are you not purposely spinning the Word of God,
    and say God I believe you.You mentioning heavenly and earthly jerusalem just to back you up,just incase.I know how they work.
    You are just saying it because you are pressured to say what to say.
    Knowing what you are doing is wrong; but do it anyway.
    And say: I have not done anything wrong to the Word of God;
    I love God. This is what is going on,everywhere.

    wakeup.

    #367661
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 18 2014,15:05)
    I am also dealing with babes.

    1. Is God going to choose heavenly jerusalem again?
    Β  Β Since when was heavenly Jerusalem lost?
    2. Is God going to split heavenly jerusalem in three?
    3.Is heavenly jerusalem going to be taken by armies?
    4.Are people to flee to the mountains of the heavenly
    Β  jerusalem?

    Are you not purposely spinning the Word of God,
    and say God I believe you.You mentioning heavenly and earthly jerusalem just to back you up,just incase.I know how they work.
    You are just saying it because you are pressured to say what to say.
    Knowing what you are doing is wrong; but do it anyway.
    And say: I have not done anything wrong to the Word of God;
    I love God. This is what is going on,everywhere.

    wakeup.


    w

    i try to show you but you do not accept anything that is not in line with your way of seeing things ,

    it would be a waist to me to argue of the deep things of God with you ;

    you are stuck with your KJV so I cannot connect with pharisees ,

    #367733
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    You say it is about heavenly jerusalem.
    Backup scriptures please?

    Or you are just saying it for the sake of
    going against me.
    Twisting the scriptures without any backup.
    This has been done many times,
    with no conscience.

    wakeup.

    #367737
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2014,12:53)
    T.

    You say it is about heavenly jerusalem.
    Backup scriptures please?

    Or you are just saying it for the sake of
    going against me.
    Twisting the scriptures without any backup.
    This has been done many times,
    with no conscience.

    wakeup.


    W

    Through faith we understand that God created all thing ,

    Through that same faith we understand God,s written words guided by the spirit of truth ,

    It would take me a book to explain it to you and when it would be done you would push it aside and tell me this is garabage ,but I can tell you that all I know comes frome the scriptures that you also have,and so you have access to it just as I do and everyone else ,

    So I have not prevent you of any thing at all it is all in your hand , almost as long as in mine,

    #367764
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    You say that was about heavenly jerusalem.

    Scriptures please.

    wakeup.

    #367790
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2014,14:51)
    T.

    You say that was about heavenly jerusalem.

    Scriptures please.

    wakeup.


    W

    READ MY QUOTE ,YOU ARE A SCRIBE AND A PHARISEE,THAT IS WHY YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SLEEP WITH THEM

    #367944
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    You say it is heavenly jerusalem.
    Back it up with scripture please.
    Or you should have kept silent.

    wakeup.

    #367952
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,19:34)
    T.

    You say it is heavenly jerusalem.
    Back it up with scripture please.
    Or you should have kept silent.

    wakeup.


    w

    i have answered this question to you ,and it seems repeating it will not change anything ,

    #367995
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2014,04:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,19:34)
    T.

    You say it is heavenly jerusalem.
    Back it up with scripture please.
    Or you should have kept silent.

    wakeup.


    w

    i have answered this question to you ,and it seems repeating it will not change anything ,


    T.

    You say it's heavenly jerusalem.
    Back it up.

    wakeup.

    #368004
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2014,09:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2014,04:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,19:34)
    T.

    You say it is heavenly jerusalem.
    Back it up with scripture please.
    Or you should have kept silent.

    wakeup.


    w

    i have answered this question to you ,and it seems repeating it will not change anything ,


    T.

    You say it's heavenly jerusalem.
    Back it up.

    wakeup.


    w

    REV 3:12 β€˜ He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name.
    REV 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
    REV 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,

    understand this

    #368014
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2014,19:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2014,09:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2014,04:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,19:34)
    T.

    You say it is heavenly jerusalem.
    Back it up with scripture please.
    Or you should have kept silent.

    wakeup.


    w

    i have answered this question to you ,and it seems repeating it will not change anything ,


    T.

    You say it's heavenly jerusalem.
    Back it up.

    wakeup.


    w

    REV 3:12 β€˜ He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name.
    REV 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
    REV 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,

    understand this


    T.

    That is after the new earth.
    That is the finish of all the work done by Jesus.
    God also will come down to earth.God all in all. (finish).
    Next step would be;? No one knows.

    wakeup.

    #368030
    terraricca
    Participant

    w

    REVELATION 3;12 ????

    #368044
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2014,04:29)
    w

    REVELATION 3;12 ????


    T.

    What about rev 12:3?

    Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

    wakeup.

    #368073
    terraricca
    Participant

    W

    AND WHAT ABOUT ? REV 12;3

    #368084
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2014,14:43)
    W

    AND WHAT ABOUT ? REV 12;3


    T.

    No need to quote scriptures if you dont know
    anything about it. But you can ask.
    But that would be too much to do.
    Pride is in the way.
    Me Terra,ask? What would that do to your great reputation.
    Especially ask wakeup? No way hose'.
    You ask me only to find fault,to try to get me into a corner.
    But no can do.

    wakeup.

    #368096
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 22 2014,10:56)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2014,14:43)
    W

    AND WHAT ABOUT ? REV 12;3


    T.

    No need to quote scriptures if you dont know
    anything about it. But you can ask.
    But that would be too much to do.
    Pride is in the way.
    Me Terra,ask? What would that do to your great reputation.
    Especially ask wakeup? No way hose'.
    You ask me only to find fault,to try to get me into a corner.
    But no can do.

    wakeup.


    W

    I feel sorry for you ,that you have cultivate that type of mind

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