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Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2010,15:32) Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2010,19:49) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2010,13:18) Hi KW,
Please show me where I have added to the word.
while you are at it can you yet show from scripture your theory of a corrupt spirit of mankind.
How can I show you something that does not exist? You ask the impossible. Rather show me that what you state is backed up with scripture and is obedience to the intent of God.Where is it written that Jesus is a Spirit being with no physical reality?
I can and have showed you where it states he is a human being that mediated between mankind and God.
Hi Kerwin,How can Jesus and His Father(HolySpirit) make “Their” abode with us accept in “Spirit”? (John 4:24)
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father(HolySpirit) will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.God bless
Ed J
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You should read Numbers 11:16-29 and then apply what you learn to John 14:23 as John is not inferring that Jesus is a spirit being.Don't forget that the Law speaks of Jesus as a prophet like Moses., Deuteronomy 18:17-19.
Hi KW,
Jesus is a man.He is in heaven with God in his new heavenly body alive by sharing the gift of God's living Spirit.
And like his Father God he manifests in our realm in those in his body as that Spirit.
The body of Christ is a temple for God as Spirit.[Eph2] The Lord is the Spirit.
We commune with God and His son in the Spirit. [2cor13.14]Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote Jesus is a man.
He is in heaven with God in his new heavenly body alive by sharing the gift of God's living Spirit.
This sounds correct though it is possible we are using the same words to mean different things.
Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote And like his Father God he manifests in our realm in those in his body as that Spirit.
He is manifest just like Moses was Manifest in the 70 elders of Numbers 11:16-29. God could also manifest the same way.
Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote The body of Christ is a temple for God as Spirit.[Eph2]
Agreed!
Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote The Lord is the Spirit.
I will have to look this one up again as I am not sure what scripture means which it states these words.
Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote We commune with God and His son in the Spirit.
I agree with the words though I do not know what meaning you attach to them.
Hi KW,
Moses did not manifest but the Spirit of God given to Moses did.” I will take the Spirit that is on you and put it on them”
“We will come to him and make our abode with him” Jn14
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2010,00:20) Hi KW,
Moses did not manifest but the Spirit of God given to Moses did.” I will take the Spirit that is on you and put it on them”
“We will come to him and make our abode with him” Jn14
Here two scriptures I want you to read and pay careful attention to the wording. They are from two different authors though the same impiration carried both writers.Romans 8:9(ASV) reads:
Quote But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
and
1 Peter 1:11(ASV) reads:
Quote searching what time or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did point unto, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glories that should follow them.
As you can see both state “spirit of Christ” and not Christ. It is the “spirit of Moses” that was made manifest in the 70 elders.
Some would state in keeping with the idea put forward by Peter that the spirit of Moses was the spirit of Christ and what occured in the camp of the children of Isreal was a foretaste of what would come to be thus granting the desire of Moses.
Numbers 11:29(ASV) reads:
Quote And Moses said unto him, Art thou jealous for my sake? would that all Jehovah's people were prophets, that Jehovah would put his Spirit upon them!
Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ April 08 2010,06:02) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 07 2010,12:42) Quote (thethinker @ April 07 2010,11:44) Ed J said: Quote The Trinitarians say: Jesus is “The Owner”.
The non-Trinitarians reply: Jesus is NOT “The Owner”, Jesus' Father is “The Owner”!The scripture is very clear that Jesus us the “heir” of all things (Hebrews 1). This makes Him the owner.
The heir is the owner dude. What world do you live in?
thinker
Hi thinker,And we will be joint heirs. Will we all be the owners? Will we all be God Almighty?
peace and love,
mike
Paul said that we will be heirs of Christ.17and if children, also heirs, heirs, indeed, of God, and heirs together of Christ — if, indeed, we suffer together, that we may also be glorified together.Young's Literal Translation)
The Greek says that we will be heirs together “of Christ.” It does not say that we will be joint heirs with Christ sharing His possessions. We are heirs together of Christ meaning that we will be conformed to His image.
We are heirs of God and joint (or fellow) heirs with Christ, that is the love of God to us.I Corinthians 15 speaks of the future when Jesus Christ will have put all things under his feet, then when all things are put under his feet, then Christ himself will relinquish this given authority back to God so that God will be all in all.
This passage refers to rulership, not inheritance.
I could not find the original post in question, but seems that this was the issue.
Of course, I may have assumed too much.
Hi KW,
Moses was enabled to be a servant of God by being given a share of God's Spirit.
That Spirit was then also shared with more men.Your own spirit is unlike God's and is of you and Moses alone,
and it is unable to be shared with another man.Hi KW,
The anointing given by God to Elijah was then given to Elisha and John the baptist.
But it was not the spirit of elijah himself but that of his God.
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