Answering jodi lee's nonsense

[mikeboll64]

Quote (thethinker @ April 04 2010,05:09)

It is from Christ they received the reward of the things they did.

Hi Thinker,

All things come from Jehovah. That includes Jesus and any rewards that Jesus hands out.

peace and love,
mike

[GeneBalthrop]

Thinker……Scripture also say GOD does not Change he is the same yesterday and for ever. His Will never changes either, Jesus did not come to do (HIS) Will obviously a different WILL then GOD'S or He would have never said he did not come to do His WILL would he. Now lets see what a spin you and WJ can make out of that. “IT IS WRITTEN IN THE VOLUME OF BOOKS I HAVE COME TO DO THEY WILL O GOD” AND again “the Son of Man came (NOT) to do (HIS), WILL but the WILL of HIM who Sent Him”, put your thinking caps on and try to confuse that also.

[Ed J]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 04 2010,04:29)

Mike…….What i find most interesting is How they Just do  not get it, it like there is a shield deflecting the truth from going into their minds, it is Kinda humorous at times. When such absolutely clear scripture are just ignored by them and they just passover them like they were not even there. It has to be that GOD has sent to them a deluding Spirit in order for them to Believe the LIE of the TRINITY. 2 Ths 2. IMO peace and love to you and yours……………….gene

Gene…….It's funny how you seem to have that same blockage when it comes to the issue of “Free Will“. (Psalm 18:25-27)

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peace and love to you and yours……………….Ed J

[Is 1:18]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2010,03:34)

Sorry, I thought we were all brothers in Christ seeking truth.

No, we're not brothers. You've invested your faith in a counterfeit Christ, hence you're a counterfeit Christian. I would be doing you no favours by telling you otherwise. I don't think you are here to seek truth, rather to peddle your Watchtower doctrines (whether you are one or not is moot).

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The avalance of scholarly information in the debate with Jack is so far on my side, not his.

That's not true.

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Would you have me be “bullied” into submission by insults and ridicules without Scriptural backing? This isn't grade school.

You've been given plenty of scriptural backing which you've dismissed. Your mind was made up before you entered into the debate. Why not be up front about that from the start?

[terraricca]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 04 2010,08:21)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2010,03:34) Sorry, I thought we were all brothers in Christ seeking truth.   No, we're not brothers. You've invested your faith in a counterfeit Christ, hence you're a counterfeit Christian. I would be doing you no favours by telling you otherwise. I don't think you are here to seek truth, rather to peddle your Watchtower doctrines (whether you are one or not is moot). Quote The avalance of scholarly information in the debate with Jack is so far on my side, not his. That's not true. Quote Would you have me be “bullied” into submission by insults and ridicules without Scriptural backing?  This isn't grade school. You've been given plenty of scriptural backing which you've dismissed. Your mind was made up before you entered into the debate. Why not be up front about that from the start?

hi

i agree with you with that we are not brothers in some cases we are so far appart it is not even funny,

but as far that the trinity is concern it is not biblical that all it is ,

and if you say other wise ,then you will have to answer first all the open questions from Genesis to Revelation,

not just given IMOs and explain truth with truth,if you can not do it then the trinity does not exist in side the scriptures.

this is not my opinion, this is a fact of truth.

[Ed J]

Quote (thethinker @ April 04 2010,05:09)

Mike, 10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. Rom. 14:10-11 The judgment seat of Christ is the judgment seat of God. thinker

Hi Thinker,

                     You should NOT 'willingly' misrepresent the Scriptures ARE TELLING US!
                     The use of Capitals was done by the translators and CANNOT be counted upon, because they are 'fallible'!
Romans 14:11 says: “For it is written” as in “Isaiah 45:23”; which refers to “The LORD”(YHVH) rather than “Lord”(Jesus) !
Isaiah 45:23 I(YHVH) have sworn by myself, “The Word” is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,
                   That unto me(YHVH) every knee shall bow, every tongue  shall swear. (Compare: Psalm 22:28-30 / Isaiah 60:14)

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 04 2010,08:21)

No, we're not brothers. You've invested your faith in a counterfeit Christ, hence you're a counterfeit Christian.

Hi Paul,

My faith is solidly rested in the Christ the Bible teaches. The one sent from God, not the one the trinitarians invented that is God. The one who says his Father is greater than him. The one who prayed to his God many times. The one who now sits at the right hand of his God, waiting for his God to put all his enemies under him. The one who will be the King of kings under his God.

peace and love,
mike

[Is 1:18]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2010,12:14)

My faith is solidly rested in the Christ the Bible teaches.

Some of it….

He is Lord of the Sabbath
He is the Lord of Glory
He is Lord of all
He is LORD

[JustAskin]

Is1,

Hello to you.

Can you expand the statements you made in your last post to include the circumstances under which these statements are made.

For instance: 'Lord of the Sabbath'.
Why is Jesus 'Lord of the Sabbath'?

[Is 1:18]

Because he claimed to be as such in Matthew 12:8 (cf. Matt 8:20, 12:32, 12:40). The precept seems pretty patent to me in this verse, does it really need expanding on??

[NickHassan]

Hi Is 1.18,
Yes he is given all authority by his God.

[JustAskin]

Is1,
And what of the other statements.

The idea that they are clear to you should not absolve you of making it clear to others. In fact, it should then be your duty, don't you believe?

I am just asking!

[JustAskin]

Is1,
Matthew 8:20: 'And Jesus said to him, 'Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.'

Matthew 12:32: 'Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him…' (also showing that Jesus is not God nor equal to the Holy Spirit nor God)

Matthew 12:40: 'For as Jonah was three days and nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and nights in the heart of the earth' (Also showing that TT and WJ claim that Jonah crying out is not part of Jesus' analogy)

Is1, I don't see where the verses you quote have [anything] to do with your statements.

Please show me how they are connected.

[terraricca]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 04 2010,19:38)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2010,12:14) My faith is solidly rested in the Christ the Bible teaches.   Some of it…. He is Lord of the Sabbath He is the Lord of Glory He is Lord of all He is LORD

Is1

with personal comment like you do no wander there are IMO

since you looking for truth why you don't use the truth in scriptures ,and layout you understanding clearly like someone who has inside view,not a mare knowledge of scriptures,

ex;if i am a project manager,and i am the best there is ,and have done fantastic works and project ,it will never make me the owner of the company.

even believing that is stupid and is dreaming.

Christ is the son of God not God, someone IMO is not required for a explanation on that,if your knowledge of scriptures is only covering this type of understanding ,it would be better to keep silence.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 04 2010,19:38)

He is LORD

Hi Paul,

LORD is how most translations render the divine name JHVH or Jehovah.  The trinitarians think that the godhead consists of three separate yet equal persons – Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  Claiming that Jesus is JHVH doesn't even fit into your flawed view of God, since they are SEPARATE individuals.

I find it amusing when the trinitarians use LORD or “ego eimi” like in your signature to claim that Jesus is God, because what you are saying is that the Son is actually the Father.  Does that really fit into you godhead view?

And Brother Ed J will be happy to explain to you that “I am that I am” can not be the literal translation of JHVH.

And I left out the most important person in my last post to you.  I should have said, “My faith is solidly rested in the Jesus the Bible teaches and in his God, Jehovah.”

peace and love,
mike

[JustAskin]

Is1,

Not sure if you can't answer or just not around but let me suggest some response to your statements:

Jesus is 'Lord of the Sabbath'
Did Jesus say that or did He say 'The Son of Man is ALSO Lord of the Sabbath'
The purpose was to dhow the Jews that it was not wrong to do good on the Sabbath, that 'man is Lord', man controls his actions on the day, not the day, even the Sabbath, controls his actions. The previous verses in Mark 2:27, state this very clearly.

'He is LORD'. Where did you read this?
LORD (ALL Caps) is a substitute word used by the bible translators in place of God's name 'YHVH' and should not be confused with 'Lord' or 'lord'.
Satan knew very well what he was doing when he pursuaded the Jews to stop pronouncing Godls name for fear of blaspheming, and also the Bible translators from writing His name in a 'modern form' (Yehovah, Yahveh, or similar) but use an ambiguous title (LORD) that could easily be miswritten as 'Lord' or 'lord' and completely change its meaning, evdn taking away its majesty (Robbing God of His glorious everlasting sacred name)

Your other two statements, show me where you quote them from, please.

[JustAskin]

Mike,
We double posting at the same time…Yah be Great!

Do you know where Is1's other two statements come from. I wanna respond to them, for completeness, to support or to refute.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 05 2010,04:22)

Mike, We double posting at the same time…Yah be Great! Do you know where Is1's other two statements come from. I wanna respond to them, for completeness, to support or to refute.

Hi JA,

I noticed that too.

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1 Corinthians 2:8 NIV None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

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Acts 10:36 NIV You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, telling the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.

Happy hunting, JA

peace and love,
mike

[JustAskin]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the quick response.

[JustAskin]

Is1,

I see nothing wrong with your other two statements and support them.

Only one thing more.

What is the context under which you quote them, as I can't see, even now, what they are connected to.

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