All will be chipped by March 2013.

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  • #380484
    NickHassan
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 14 2012,06:56)
    I'm not following you either, Wake Up.

    Also, if this chip thing happens like you say, I will tip my hat to you and thank you for the warning.

    BUT……………………….

    If March comes and goes without the chips, will you be willing to admit that you are just another of the MANY who have tried, unsuccessfully, to force the Revelation prophecies into their own time period?


    Hi.
    It seems March 13 has come and gone yet some still proclaim their KNOWLEDGE

    #380508
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2014,07:27)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 14 2012,06:56)
    I'm not following you either, Wake Up.

    Also, if this chip thing happens like you say, I will tip my hat to you and thank you for the warning.

    BUT……………………….

    If March comes and goes without the chips, will you be willing to admit that you are just another of the MANY who have tried, unsuccessfully, to force the Revelation prophecies into their own time period?


    Hi.
    It seems March 13 has come and gone yet some still proclaim their KNOWLEDGE


    Nick.

    That was regarding the Obama care,on the video.

    The chip will be made compulsory for the world; when the false prophet shows himself.

    Dont get too comfy. It is coming soon.

    Microchip implant (human)

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    For use in animals, see Microchip implant (animal).

    The hand of microchip implant hobbyist Amal Graafstra, just after an operation to insert an RFID tag. The yellow coloration comes from iodine used to disinfect the hand for surgery.
    A human microchip implant is an identifying integrated circuit device or RFID transponder encased in silicate glass and implanted in the body of a human being. A subdermal implant typically contains a unique ID number that can be linked to information contained in an external database, such as personal identification, medical history, medications, allergies, and contact information.

    Contents
    [hide] 1 Hobbyists
    2 Commercial implants 2.1 Medical records use
    2.2 Building access and security
    2.3 Possible future applications

    3 Potential problems 3.1 Cancer
    3.2 Other medical complications
    3.3 Security risks

    4 Societal and religious criticism
    5 Legislation
    6 See also
    7 References
    8 Further reading
    9 External links

    Hobbyists[edit]

    The first reported experiment with an RFID implant was carried out in 1998 by the British scientist Kevin Warwick.[1] As a test, his implant was used to open doors, switch on lights, and cause verbal output within a building. The implant has since been held in the Science Museum (London).[citation needed]

    Since that time, several additional hobbyists have placed RFID microchip implants into their hands or had them placed there by others.

    Amal Graafstra, author of the book “RFID Toys,” asked doctors to place implants in his hands. A cosmetic surgeon used a scalpel to place a microchip in his left hand, and his family doctor injected a chip into his right hand using a veterinary Avid injector kit. Graafstra uses the implants to open his home and car doors and to log on to his computer.

    Mikey Sklar had a chip implanted into his left hand and filmed the procedure. He has done a number of media[2] and personal interviews[3] about his experience of being microchipped.

    Commercial implants[edit]

    In 2002, the VeriChip Corporation (known as the “PositiveID Corporation” since November 2009) received preliminary approval from the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to market its device in the U.S. within specific guidelines. The device received FDA approval in 2004, and was marketed under the name VeriChip or VeriMed. In 2007, it was revealed that nearly identical implants had caused cancer in hundreds of laboratory animals.[4] A revelation that had a devastating impact on the company's stock price. Some time between May and July 2010, the Positive ID Corporation discontinued marketing the implantable human microchip.[5]

    In January 2012, the VeriTeQ Acquisition Corporation acquired the VeriChip implantable microchip and related technologies, and Health Link personal health record from PositiveID Corporation. VeriTeQ is majority owned and led by Scott R. Silverman, former Chairman and CEO of PositiveID and VeriChip Corporation. PositiveID has retained an ownership interest in VeriTeQ.[6]

    Medical records use[edit]

    The PositiveID Corporation (previously known as The VeriChip Corporation; Applied Digital Solutions, Inc.; and The Digital Angel Corporation) distributed the implantable chip known as the VeriChip or VeriMed until the product was discontinued in the second quarter of 2010. The company had suggested that the implant could be used to retrieve medical information in the event of an emergency, as follows: Each VeriChip implant contained a 16-digit ID number. This number was transmitted when a hand-held VeriChip scanner is passed within a few inches of the implant. Participating hospitals and emergency workers would enter this number into a secure page on the VeriChip Corporation's website to access medical information that the patient had previously stored on file with the company.

    According to some reports, in 2006 80 hospitals had agreed to own a VeriChip scanner provided by the company and 232 doctors had agreed to inject the devices into patients who requested them.[7] However, the VeriChip Corporation/Applied Digital Solutions was sued by its shareholders for making “materially false and misleading statements” regarding hospital acceptance figures. According to Glancy & Binkow, the law firm that filed the class action suit:

    “…on May 9, 2002, defendants [the then Applied Digital Corporation] claimed that nearly every major hospital in the West Palm Beach, Florida area would be equipped with VeriChip scanners, an indispensable component of the Company's VeriChip technology. However, one day later on May 10, 2002, the truth was disclosed that no hospital had accepted a scanner, an essential device for retrieving the VeriChip's information. Following the May 10, 2002, disclosure, the price of Applied Digital stock again fell sharply, dropping nearly 30% in a single day.”[8]

    Building access and security[edit]

    The VeriChip Corporation has marketed the implant as a way to restrict access to secure facilities such as power plants. Microchip scanners would be installed at entrances so locks only work for persons whose chip numbers are entered into the system. Two employees of CityWatcher, an Ohio video surveillance company, had RFID tags injected into their arms in 2007. The workers needed the implants to access the company's secure video tape room, as documented in USA Today.[9] The company closed, but there is no word on what happened to the employees or their implants.

    A major drawback for such systems is the relative ease with which the 16-digit ID number contained in a chip implant can be obtained and cloned using a hand-held device, a problem that has been demonstrated publicly by security researcher Jonathan Westhues[10] and documented in the May 2006 issue of Wired magazine,[11] among other places.

    The Baja Beach Club, a nightclub in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, once used VeriChip implants for identifying VIP guests.[12]

    Possible future applications[edit]

    Theoretically, a GPS-enabled chip could one day make it possible for individuals to be physically located by latitude, longitude, altitude, speed, and direction of movement. Such implantable GPS devices are not technically feasible at this time. However, if widely deployed at some future point, implantable GPS devices could conceivably allow authorities to locate missing persons and/or fugitives and those who fled from a crime scene. Critics contend, however, that the technology could lead to political repression as governments coul
    d use implants to track and persecute human rights activists, labor activists, civil dissidents, and political opponents; criminals and domestic abusers could use them to stalk and harass their victims; slaveholders could use them to prevent captives from escaping; and child abusers could use them to locate and abduct children.[citation needed]

    Another suggested application for a tracking implant, discussed in 2008 by the legislature of Indonesia's Irian Jaya would be to monitor the activities of persons infected with HIV, aimed at reducing their chances of infecting other people.[13][14] The microchipping section was not, however, included into the final version of the provincial HIV/AIDS Handling bylaw passed by the legislature in December 2008.[15] With current technology this would not be workable anyway, since there is no implantable device on the market with GPS tracking capability.

    Since modern payment methods rely upon RFID/NFC, it is thought that implantable microchips, if they were to ever become popular in use, would form a part of the cashless society.[16] Verichip implants have already been used in nightclubs such as the Baja club for such a purpose, allowing patrons to purchase drinks with their implantable microchip.

    Potential problems[edit]

    Cancer[edit]

    Anti-RFID advocates cite veterinary and toxicological studies carried out from 1996 to 2006 that found lab mice and rats injected with microchips sometimes developed cancerous tumors around the microchips (subcutaneous sarcomas) as evidence of a human implantation risk.[17] However, the link between foreign-body tumorigenesis in lab animals and implantation in humans has been publicly refuted as erroneous and misleading.[18]

    Other medical complications[edit]

    According to the FDA, implantation of the VeriChip poses potential medical downsides.[19] Electrical hazards, MRI incompatible, adverse tissue reaction, and migration of the implanted transponder are just a few of the potential risks associated with the Verichip ID implant device, according to an October 12, 2004 letter issued by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).[20]

    According to the FDA's Primer on Medical Device Interactions with Magnetic Resonance Imaging Systems, “electrical currents may be induced in conductive metal implants” that can cause “potentially severe patient burns.”

    However, when the MythBusters TV show, in episode 18 of the 2005 season, Myth Evolution, tested a microchip implant in an MRI machine, neither test subject showed any signs of pain. Since MRI machines come in various strengths, it is possible that higher energy-emitting MRI machines may be more problematic. The model and make of the chip could affect possible outcomes as well.

    Security risks[edit]

    Since nearly all implantable microchips are unencrypted, they are extremely vulnerable to being read by third-party scanners. By scanning secretly, someone could steal the information on a chip and clone the signal, enabling that person to impersonate a chipped individual. This could create security problems for building or computer access or potentially enable criminal misuse of a medical account held by an unrelated person. Also, the chip could easily[clarification needed] be removed from the person, or the appendage containing the device could be removed.[7] The Council on Ethical and Judicial Affairs (CEJA) of the American Medical Association published a report in 2007 alleging that RFID implanted chips may compromise privacy because there is no assurance that the information contained in the chip can be properly protected.[21]

    Societal and religious criticism[edit]

    Microchip implant in humans have raised new ethical discussions by academic groups,[22] human rights organizations, government departments and religious groups.

    RFID tagging has been criticised by believers of Abrahamic religions. In Christianity, many believe the implantation of chips may be the fulfillment of the Mark of the beast, prophesied to be a requirement for buying and selling,[23] and a key element of the Book of Revelation.[24][25] Islam also considers body modifications “haram”, an Arabic term meaning “forbidden”, because they involve changing the body, a creation of Allah.[26] The health risks associated with implantable microchips described above may also invoke Islamic prohibitions.[27]

    Legislation[edit]

    Following Wisconsin and North Dakota,[28] California issued Senate Bill 362 in 2007, which prohibits employers and others from forcing anyone to have a RFID device implanted under their skin.[28]

    On April 5, 2010, the Georgia Senate passed Senate Bill 235 that prohibits forced microchip implants in humans and that would make it a misdemeanor for anyone to require them, including employers. The bill would allow voluntary microchip implants, as long as they are performed by a physician and regulated by the Georgia Composite Medical Board. If the General Assembly passes the new Senate version, Georgia would join California, North Dakota and Wisconsin in banning mandatory microchip implant.[citation needed]

    On February 10, 2010 Virginia's House of Delegates also passed a bill that forbids companies from forcing their employees to be implanted with tracking devices.[29]

    Washington State House Bill 1142-2009-10 orders a study using implanted radio frequency identification or other similar technology to electronically monitor sex offenders and other felons.[30]

    See also[edit]
    VeriChip
    RFID

    wakeup.

    #380515
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    By March 13?

    #380533
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2014,10:23)
    Hi WU,
    By March 13?


    NIck.

    I know you are searching for mistakes,like a hungry
    fox,for food to satisfy.

    Can you read the heading of that post or cant you?
    It mentioned the name Obama.
    That was Obama's time line.
    I dont know american politics do I?
    Besides; that was obama's care, time line.
    I know that the chip will come to the world after the false prophet's coming. Do you understand?

    Keep on searching for more mistakes if you can.

    wakeup.

    #380537
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Wakeup,

    Wouldn't it be better for you to just say, “Sorry guys… I was wrong” ?

    Everyone makes mistakes, but you make yourself look worse than the original mistake when you try to hem and haw your way out of it.

    Just own up to it, and be done with it.

    #380584
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 09 2012,12:43)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57W-6lykHU&feature=related

    I will may need EdJ,to help me here.Thank you master.

    All americans will be chipped by march 2013.
    many will welcome the idea because of no knowledge in prophesies.

    The idea looks very good,but the purpose behind it is evil.

    It is against Gods will.
    Rev.14:9.  —-If any man worship the beast and his image,and receive his mark in the forehead,or in his hand.

    10. The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God———
    and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels,and in the presence of the Lamb.


    Did this come to pass? We haven't been chipped in NZ yet.

    #380606
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ May 05 2014,14:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 09 2012,12:43)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57W-6lykHU&feature=related

    I will may need EdJ,to help me here.Thank you master.

    All americans will be chipped by march 2013.
    many will welcome the idea because of no knowledge in prophesies.

    The idea looks very good,but the purpose behind it is evil.

    It is against Gods will.
    Rev.14:9.  —-If any man worship the beast and his image,and receive his mark in the forehead,or in his hand.

    10. The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God———
    and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels,and in the presence of the Lamb.


    Did this come to pass? We haven't been chipped in NZ yet.


    T8.

    You obviously have not watched the video.
    That was about Obama's care spoken of;not the world.
    The world will be chipped after the appearing of the false prophet. This is what I always believe.

    American policy I dont know much about,but the mandate was april 13.You need to ask Obama why that date was not kept. I was just giving the news about that mandate.
    The fact here is that the chip is in focus.
    And no one can deny it.

    What will you all say to me when it is made compulsory?
    I know: You will say *NOTHING*.
    All have to swallow all your words soon.

    wakeup.

    #380689
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I get your point WU. But what if it had happened as you said. I bet you would have taken the credit for predicting this. But since the time-frame is out, you then say it was not your prediction or warning. Have I spoken truthfully?

    Further, I speak for myself and I suspect for others here too, that when such predictions are made, I rarely believe them. Life has taught me that date fixing is proven wrong time and time again. Why? Because God is in control and only he knows the day and the hour. Thus, men can say this or that, and I will listen, but when a date is mentioned, then that almost says to me that it will not happen because God frustrates the plans of the wicked.

    #380726
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    So not a false prediction then?

    #380731
    journey42
    Participant

    Wakeup

    We know this was their plans, in their mandate that all under Obama Care would require this by 2013.  This was in newspaper articles and on the news in little snippets here and there.  This is what they announced, THEIR PLANS, but we know it will be according to God's timing, not theirs.  Satan is eager to bring this in.  Never the less, the plan is ready and waiting to go, the system set up, now they say 2014, but it will be at God's timing as I know you are aware.

    This is just to warm us up, get everyone ready for the process to come and get us used to it.  The system is waiting to go, and God has given the saints a little more time of grace to be prepared and informed.  The false prophet will be the one to enforce it, and it is not compulsory at the moment, but optional, however, all will be pushed into a corner to make that choice.

    #380954
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    And you have GUESSED this is the Mark?

    #380956
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,18:08)
    Hi J42,
    And you have GUESSED this is the Mark?


    Nick.

    WHAT EVER WILL BE PUT IN THE RIGHT HAND, OR FOREHEAD; IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST.Can not buy nor sell without it.
    Not hard to work out.
    No need to do the ostrich.

    wakeup.

    #380959
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    So conjecture is ok?

    #380963
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,18:08)
    Hi J42,
    And you have GUESSED this is the Mark?


    Nick

    Years ago, I envisioned it would be a type of invisible tattoo, but that was before this technology was announced.
    This technology is becoming more popular, and they have been introducing it slowly over the years, showing what a good thing it is.  Like I said, it was even on our news channel the other night saying it will replace all cards, licences, passports and CASH.  Unless something else more advanced comes out, it looks like they are preparing us for this.

    They will not throw the frog straight into hot water, or the frog will jump out.  Instead they put the frog into cold water and gradually turn the heat up so the frog doesn't notice.
    They are getting us used to it slowly, so it doesn't become a big thing. Every one will adapt in time and just go on with their lives thinking it's a good solution, another new piece of technology just like iphones etc, and wont think twice.

    And take notice of this.  New translations are saying that the mark will be ON the right hand or forehead, but the KJV says IN. (inside) so all those who have corrupted translations will be looking for something different as a sign.

    #380965
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    We will wait and see.
    Too much reliance on man' ideas make cause folk to be deceived

    #380967
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,18:36)
    Hi J42,
    We will wait and see.
    Too much reliance on man' ideas make cause folk to be deceived


    Nick.

    This wait and see attitude will be too late when it has come
    and not prepared.

    We have to prepare our fam.brother,sisters,friends.
    To get ready and to resist, no mater what.
    Or their blood will be on you.If they will not hear,then you are free of their blood.

    wakeup.

    #380969
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    The shepherd will take care of his sheep
    Why should you stress?

    #380971
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    You sound like those who gather together into communes and dig underground shelters to house their vast supplies of food, guns and ammunition.
    Their faces are lined with worry and they trust nobody outside of the group.
    Chill out and take your hand off the panic button.

    “Be still and know that I am God”

    #380977
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,19:55)
    Hi WU,
    You sound like those who gather together into communes and dig underground shelters to house their vast supplies of food, guns and ammunition.
    Their faces are lined with worry and they trust nobody outside of the group.
    Chill out and take your hand off the panic button.

    “Be still and know that I am God”


    Nick.

    It is up to every individual what they do after warned.
    But we must sound the alarm.
    So they wont get taken by surprised when it comes,but be ready; spiritually prepared.

    wakeup.

    #380995
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Unless they have joined the kingdom they will just be better educated when facing the second death

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