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Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2010,10:10) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,08:16) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2010,07:01) BD How are you going with your preparation for demonstrating that homosexuality is chosen? I should think just a couple of days of you choosing to be gay would demonstrate your point beyond reasonable doubt.
Stuart
Are you saying that a person does not choose to act on what they feel?There are people predisposed to violence, don't these people have a choice of acting or not acting?
No, indeed it was YOU who claimed that, when you wrote:Quote Sexual orientation is chosen just like every physical act Sexual orientation is not a sexual act, is it.
Stuart
Homosexuality is not Homosexuality without the SEX is it?Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,11:22) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2010,10:10) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,08:16) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2010,07:01) BD How are you going with your preparation for demonstrating that homosexuality is chosen? I should think just a couple of days of you choosing to be gay would demonstrate your point beyond reasonable doubt.
Stuart
Are you saying that a person does not choose to act on what they feel?There are people predisposed to violence, don't these people have a choice of acting or not acting?
No, indeed it was YOU who claimed that, when you wrote:Quote Sexual orientation is chosen just like every physical act Sexual orientation is not a sexual act, is it.
Stuart
Homosexuality is not Homosexuality without the SEX is it?
You're the one doing the talking BD. Why don't you just carry on talking. That will much the same effect as you talking and me replying.Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,12:14)
Ms. O'Leary (the convert to islam in the video) said in a speech:Islam is a very inclusive path. It never claims exclusive access to God or to paradise.
On Rate My Professor she is getting some pretty high “Hotness” ratings. The section of the film showing her hajj (from National Geographic, wasn't it?) shows her dressing modestly for the trip to Mecca. Do you think she might have forgotten to “dress modestly” for her students?
Do you think she really understands the requirements of her new delusion?
Isn't she lucky to have the option to change religion! I wonder what she thinks about all the muslim women in the world who would expect to be ostracised or even killed for trying the opposite conversion.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2010,14:15) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,12:14)
Ms. O'Leary (the convert to islam in the video) said in a speech:Islam is a very inclusive path. It never claims exclusive access to God or to paradise.
On Rate My Professor she is getting some pretty high “Hotness” ratings. The section of the film showing her hajj (from National Geographic, wasn't it?) shows her dressing modestly for the trip to Mecca. Do you think she might have forgotten to “dress modestly” for her students?
Do you think she really understands the requirements of her new delusion?
Isn't she lucky to have the option to change religion! I wonder what she thinks about all the muslim women in the world who would expect to be ostracised or even killed for trying the opposite conversion.
Stuart
Nice try but people succesfully convert from Islam all the time without any form of punshment.What is the point of these conversion videos? People change their mind all the time. I de-converted from Christianity. What does that prove? It proves that individuals can change their mind. It does not mean that a religion is valid.
Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 11 2010,15:23) What is the point of these conversion videos? People change their mind all the time. I de-converted from Christianity. What does that prove? It proves that individuals can change their mind. It does not mean that a religion is valid.
You were a Christian, but did you believe in God?If you believed in God how could you suddenly not?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,15:12) Nice try but people succesfully convert from Islam all the time without any form of punshment.
Nice try yourself BD but you know that those conversions are really only possible in countries that defend the rights of their citizens against sharia.That means the countries that are not islamic republics like Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Qatar, Yemen, Iran, Sudan, Afghanistan, Mauritania and Pakistan, which all have the death penalty for apostasy.
Ilyas Ba Yunus found that 75% of new converts to islam leave again within 2 to 3 years. The majority of converts to islam (and possibly christianity too) are convicts serving prison sentences. (We also know that recidivism rates are high: how many new muslim criminals are being produced by the prison system?)
Islam: the religion for those who can't commit to themselves or their community.
Here is a painfully dull audio track on which some American muslims discuss the high rate of apostasy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8EC8-aVlrE
This, apparently is the situation in Africa:
I checked on the New Zealand Statistics Department website and it turns out that Hinduism is growing at a much more rapid rate than islam.
The number living in NZ and admitting to being islamic rose from 23,631 to 36,072 between 2001 and 2006. Half of those 36,072 had arrived in the country in the previous five years. Presumably a further decent chunk of the total are children born to those immigrants. Where are all the muslims going to come from, if your claim of islam being dominant within 5 years, mark my words is going to materialise? They are 0.2% of the total population currently. Hardly a springboard for a campaign to introduce sharia misery within the next decade, is it.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2010,16:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,15:12) Nice try but people succesfully convert from Islam all the time without any form of punshment.
Nice try yourself BD but you know that those conversions are really only possible in countries that defend the rights of their citizens against sharia.That means the countries that are not islamic republics like Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Qatar, Yemen, Iran, Sudan, Afghanistan, Mauritania and Pakistan, which all have the death penalty for apostasy.
Ilyas Ba Yunus found that 75% of new converts to islam leave again within 2 to 3 years. The majority of converts to islam (and possibly christianity too) are convicts serving prison sentences. (We also know that recidivism rates are high: how many new muslim criminals are being produced by the prison system?)
Islam: the religion for those who can't commit to themselves or their community.
Here is a painfully dull audio track on which some American muslims discuss the high rate of apostasy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8EC8-aVlrE
This, apparently is the situation in Africa:
I checked on the New Zealand Statistics Department website and it turns out that Hinduism is growing at a much more rapid rate than islam.
The number living in NZ and admitting to being islamic rose from 23,631 to 36,072 between 2001 and 2006. Half of those 36,072 had arrived in the country in the previous five years. Presumably a further decent chunk of the total are children born to those immigrants. Where are all the muslims going to come from, if your claim of islam being dominant within 5 years, mark my words is going to materialise? They are 0.2% of the total population currently. Hardly a springboard for a campaign to introduce sharia misery within the next decade, is it.
Stuart
we'll see!Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,16:12) I checked on the New Zealand Statistics Department website and it turns out that Hinduism is growing at a much more rapid rate than islam. The number living in NZ and admitting to being islamic rose from 23,631 to 36,072 between 2001 and 2006. Half of those 36,072 had arrived in the country in the previous five years. Presumably a further decent chunk of the total are children born to those immigrants. Where are all the muslims going to come from, if your claim of islam being dominant within 5 years, mark my words is going to materialise? They are 0.2% of the total population currently. Hardly a springboard for a campaign to introduce sharia misery within the next decade, is it.
Stuart[/quote]
we'll see!
Is that your answer to where all those New Zealand muslims will come from to fulfill what you eagerly called your 'prophecy'?We'll see?
Like I asked elsewhere, why should we take you seriously?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2010,17:15) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,16:12) I checked on the New Zealand Statistics Department website and it turns out that Hinduism is growing at a much more rapid rate than islam. The number living in NZ and admitting to being islamic rose from 23,631 to 36,072 between 2001 and 2006. Half of those 36,072 had arrived in the country in the previous five years. Presumably a further decent chunk of the total are children born to those immigrants. Where are all the muslims going to come from, if your claim of islam being dominant within 5 years, mark my words is going to materialise? They are 0.2% of the total population currently. Hardly a springboard for a campaign to introduce sharia misery within the next decade, is it.
Stuart
we'll see![/quote]
Is that your answer to where all those New Zealand muslims will come from to fulfill what you eagerly called your 'prophecy'?We'll see?
Like I asked elsewhere, why should we take you seriously?
Stuart
You don't have to take me seriously, Just wait 5 years and see what the percentage of Muslims are in NZIt will be the best thing for NZ it will be a much happier and lovely place
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,17:44) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2010,17:15) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,16:12) I checked on the New Zealand Statistics Department website and it turns out that Hinduism is growing at a much more rapid rate than islam. The number living in NZ and admitting to being islamic rose from 23,631 to 36,072 between 2001 and 2006. Half of those 36,072 had arrived in the country in the previous five years. Presumably a further decent chunk of the total are children born to those immigrants. Where are all the muslims going to come from, if your claim of islam being dominant within 5 years, mark my words is going to materialise? They are 0.2% of the total population currently. Hardly a springboard for a campaign to introduce sharia misery within the next decade, is it.
Stuart
we'll see!
Is that your answer to where all those New Zealand muslims will come from to fulfill what you eagerly called your 'prophecy'?We'll see?
Like I asked elsewhere, why should we take you seriously?
Stuart[/quote]
You don't have to take me seriously, Just wait 5 years and see what the percentage of Muslims are in NZIt will be the best thing for NZ it will be a much happier and lovely place
You think an increase from 0.2% to 0.3% of the total population (or something similar) is going to be noticed by anyone but the government statistician?Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,17:45) There is no sense of community there now, it's all about minding your own business
You really are trying to flatter your kiwi audience, aren't you.Why should anyone take you seriously? You obviously know very little.
Stuart
BD if this man is right, then it is not a sense of community that out islamic people have in mind for us.
Islam: the religion for those who don't mind lying about it being a religion of peace.
Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,22:40) You were a Christian, but did you believe in God? If you believed in God how could you suddenly not?
Because my belief was never backed up by evidence, but emotions and suspension of logic and reason.Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 12 2010,00:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,22:40) You were a Christian, but did you believe in God? If you believed in God how could you suddenly not?
Because my belief was never backed up by evidence, but emotions and suspension of logic and reason.
So, you just were told to believe and you did?I see, well couldn't that also mean you stopped believing in the same manner because you certainly didn't get any
evidence that God doesn't exist.I believe you should use logic and reason and how would you say, you used logic and reason to come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist?
Quote I see, well couldn't that also mean you stopped believing in the same manner because you certainly didn't get any evidence that God doesn't exist.
On that basis you should accept the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (bhna).Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2010,09:07) Quote I see, well couldn't that also mean you stopped believing in the same manner because you certainly didn't get any evidence that God doesn't exist.
On that basis you should accept the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (bhna).Stuart
Not really because I would have no interest or motivation to decline or accept.
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