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Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.Joh 1:29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
Joh 1:36 and he looked at Jesus as he walked by and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God!”
Luk 24:26 Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?”
Luk 24:27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luk 24:44 Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.”Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 21 2008,09:12) No one is able to help?
You ever where the concept of the antichrist came from?I mean the end time guy who sets himself up in the temple?
Does God really have a racist agenda to subject the entire world the a particular ethnic group?
Without looking into it deeply at this stage, it is possible that Jesus is being spoken of specifically and others too.
I don't see a problem with a scripture speaking of someone and also speaking in a general sense of others.
Also if Jesus is relegated to the office of prophet only, then such might as well become Moslem's, unless of course they don't believe that Mohammad was a prophet.
Peter said of Jesus that he was both the messiah and the son of God and Jesus built his church on that rock. If we deny that he is the son of God and the messiah, then we deny Jesus and his Church.
But obviously some will divorce the bride groom before he comes back. Divorce is very common in this world.
Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 21 2008,00:29) Hey Nick, I agree with the NT and Tow, but it seems you do to in some sense. He says it means all of the prophets of God, and I agree. Even you said ” The speech of Peter identifies One as a prophet like unto Moses.” You did not say “THE” prophet.
So I do not disagree that Jesus had a role as a prophet but that does not mean that he was the coming son of David that would usher in the world to come. Can he not be part of ushering in without being the actual one the Jews are looking for?
Jesus is said to have a heavenly kingdom, the coming son of David is to sit on an earthly throne. Jesus said
- Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.”
That description does not fit the coming son of David.
Hi KJ,
Jn 18
33Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews?34Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?
35Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?
36Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
37Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
Note that Jesus did not answer directly the question of his reign as he is the coming King.
What he did say is that his kingdom IS NOT of this world [now]and gave as evidence the lack of physical support.He had not yet been GIVEN the kingdom.
That occured after his victory.Dan 7
13I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.14And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 20 2008,17:22) Without looking into it deeply at this stage, it is possible that Jesus is being spoken of specifically and others too. I don't see a problem with a scripture speaking of someone and also speaking in a general sense of others.
Also if Jesus is relegated to the office of prophet only, then such might as well become Moslem's, unless of course they don't believe that Mohammad was a prophet.
Does one have to lead to the other? You act as if you have to cling to a certain religion. You don't like being labeled inside of Christianity so why would someone have to line themselves up with a certain religion?Quote Mat 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” I know of at least two people who did not taste death in scripture. Perhaps God took another, just as He did Enoch and Elijah.
Heres the best news on this page. It don't make a damn bit of difference what the so called prophets of the old testament said or didn't say. Its the old testament.Its fulfilled,complete,finished,done,through,non effective! Jesus said the old law and the prophets propheisied until or up to John the Baptist,end!(Luke 16:16–Matt 5:17 Since then (John) the good news of the Kingdom of God within is preached by Jesus. Why haggle over an old will that is of no effect today. If the Old was still in effect there would be no New Covenant. Lets focus on the Truth of Jesus. With Love, Tim
Quote (Tim Kraft @ April 08 2009,08:52) Heres the best news on this page. It don't make a damn bit of difference what the so called prophets of the old testament said or didn't say. Its the old testament.Its fulfilled,complete,finished,done,through,non effective! Jesus said the old law and the prophets propheisied until or up to John the Baptist,end!(Luke 16:16–Matt 5:17 Since then (John) the good news of the Kingdom of God within is preached by Jesus. Why haggle over an old will that is of no effect today. If the Old was still in effect there would be no New Covenant. Lets focus on the Truth of Jesus. With Love, Tim
Hi Tim,
Welcome to Heaven Net!
I think that Jesus would not agree with you that the Old Testament is not something we should spend time considering and studying. Remember what He spoke about on the road to Emmaus? It was this:Luke 24:27
27 Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.
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Quote (Nephite @ Mar. 09 2008,17:54) Quote Mat 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” I know of at least two people who did not taste death in scripture. Perhaps God took another, just as He did Enoch and Elijah.
“there are some standing here….”But the men standing there, as he said, they all did die. So how did “some” of them there see him coming in his kingdom. The very next verse tells us that six days later, some of them “Peter James and John” saw something remarkable–the transfiguration.
“Truly I say to you that there are some of those standing here that will not taste death at all until first they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.”
The transfiguration took place in fulfillment of these words.The vision of Jesus transfigured was a foretaste of Christ’s coming in Kingdom power and glory.
Peter (one who saw the transfiguration) wrote:
“It was not by following artfully contrived false stories that we acquainted you with the power and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, but it was by having become eyewitnesses of his magnificence. For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when words such as these were borne to him by the magnificent glory: ‘This is my son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved.’ Yes, these words we heard borne from heaven while we were with him in the holy mountain.”—2 Peter 1:16-18; 1 Peter 4:17.david
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