A false view of matthew 4:4?

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 26 2014,08:45)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 25 2014,03:31)

MikeB.

A swindler using lying words to deceive a person
to steal all his money.
That person will be put in jail; NOT his lying words………..

And a thief using a gun to rob someone will also be put in jail, while the gun will not.

Are you seeing the difference between possessions and people?

The gun is a possession – not the person himself. The lying words were possessions of the swindler – not the swindler himself.

That's why the words and the gun don't get locked up. They are merely possessions of the PERSON who actually did the crime.

Wakeup, HOW did God's Word create the heavens and the earth? BY WHAT METHOD did he do this?

Mike B.

God created all things through His Word.
God's Word has been given *a form*.(shape/body).
,before creation started.
Now the Word is next to God.
The same being that was made flesh.
The Word was made flesh.
Not some other was made flesh;but THE WORD.
God's own Word.Therefore there is only ONE.

wakeup.

February 27, 2014 at 2:23 am#371808

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Wakeup,

HOW did God's Word create the heavens and the earth? BY WHAT METHOD did God's Word create these things?

February 27, 2014 at 4:23 am#371814

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2014,12:23)

Wakeup,

HOW did God's Word create the heavens and the earth? BY WHAT METHOD did God's Word create these things?

Mike B.

I thought you knew.

God spoke all things into existence through his own
Word with a form.The being which is God's own Word
with a form.(a spirit body).

wakeup.

March 1, 2014 at 1:53 am#371901

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Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 26 2014,21:23)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2014,12:23)

Wakeup,

HOW did God's Word create the heavens and the earth? BY WHAT METHOD did God's Word create these things?

Mike B.

I thought you knew.

God spoke all things into existence through his own
Word……….

So it was God speaking the things into creation? Or it was God's Word speaking the things into creation?

Which one?

March 1, 2014 at 7:27 am#371915

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 01 2014,11:53)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 26 2014,21:23)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2014,12:23)

Wakeup,

HOW did God's Word create the heavens and the earth? BY WHAT METHOD did God's Word create these things?

Mike B.

I thought you knew.

God spoke all things into existence through his own
Word……….

So it was God speaking the things into creation? Or it was God's Word speaking the things into creation?

Which one?

Mike B.

You are only concentrating on what to say next.
You did not read what I said.
I said: all things were created THROUGH God's word.

wakeup.

March 2, 2014 at 1:50 am#372094

Participant

Hi,
Jesus quoted Deut 8.3
It should not be corrupted.

However the point is that scripture is real soul food unto eternal life and taking in and holding and obeying the teachings of Jesus Christ is life to us.
Therein is Spirit of God – eternal life to us. We must eat the bread of life.

March 2, 2014 at 2:32 am#372096

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2014,11:50)

Hi,
Jesus quoted Deut 8.3
It should not be corrupted.

Nickhassan.

Well said.
The words of Christ that is in us, will also be given a spirit form in the resurrection.

wakeup.

March 2, 2014 at 4:00 am#372105

Participant

Hi Wakeup,
The Spirit of life in believers will raise them from sleeping in the earth in immortal bodies and join with those yet alive in Christ and who will be instantly given the new bodies[new over the old 1cor 15. 1thess 4]to meet the Lord in the air.

March 2, 2014 at 3:37 pm#372121

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2014,14:00)

Nickhassan.

I agree,but many can not perceive that the Word of God was
also in the beginning given a form.
and all creation was done through Him
THE WORD OF GOD.

wakeup.

March 2, 2014 at 4:16 pm#372122

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Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 01 2014,00:27)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 01 2014,11:53)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 26 2014,21:23)

God spoke all things into existence through his own
Word……….

So it was God speaking the things into creation? Or it was God's Word speaking the things into creation?

Which one?

Mike B.

I said: all things were created THROUGH God's word.

wakeup.

Yes Wakeup,

I agree that GOD alone is the one who created all things……… and that God chose to create those things THROUGH His Word.

So WHO, exactly, is the one that actually CREATED? God? Or God's Word?

March 2, 2014 at 4:34 pm#372129

Participant

Hi Wakeup,
Given a form in the beginning?

March 2, 2014 at 4:35 pm#372131

Participant

Hi MB,
The Word was of God and was God.

The Spirit is of God and is God.

March 2, 2014 at 5:18 pm#372145

Blocked

Anything OF God cannot also BE God. Anything that can be sent away BY God cannot also BE the God who sends it.

March 2, 2014 at 5:30 pm#372146

Participant

Hi MB,
It is vanity to try to intellectually analyse God and His ways.
WE must be transformed by renewal of our minds.
Truth is spiritual and not just intellectual.

March 2, 2014 at 5:30 pm#372147

Participant

Hi MB,
God is Spirit.
Does God also SEND His Spirit?

March 2, 2014 at 6:10 pm#372156

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2014,10:30)

Does God also SEND His Spirit?

What does the word “HIS” mean, Nick? Doesn't the word “HIS” imply that the spirit God SENDS is not Himself, but a possession OF God?

Surely God does not send HIMSELF, right?

March 2, 2014 at 6:28 pm#372159

Participant

Hi MB,
Do you hope to understand God?

“God is at work in you to will and to do”phil

“The Spirit of your Father will be speaking in you”Mt 10 20

Do you have a human spirit?
Is it your possession??

March 2, 2014 at 7:13 pm#372167

GeneBalthrop

Participant

Mike………God Spoke to us in times Past through the Prophets in different ways, has in these last days spoken to us through a Son.

Now let look at an example of what Jesus told his disciples, to help clarify this, Jesus told his disciples not to premeditate on what they would say when put on trial . Here is what he said,

Mat 10:20 “For it is not you that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which “SPEAKS” “IN” you”.

Why for the Love of God, can't you understand that , it was the same thing with Jesus, God the FATHER was speaking “THROUGH” HIM, and that never made Him those Words himself, or a God of any kind either.

He was the “ANOINTED” SON of GOD, and that Anointing SPIRIT, was SPEAKING through the “FLESH” MAN JESUS. We are told we have a mediator between that one God, and Man “the MAN”, Jesus Christ. What did Paul tell the true believers, “Know you not that your Bodies “ARE” the Temple of the LIVING GOD”> God is a Spirit and can live vicariously in and through his creation. A spirit can do that, while a flesh living soul can't. Therefore it says, let this mind be in you, that was in Christ Jesus our lord, and if the “SPIRIT” of him that raised Christ Jesus from the dead dwell “IN” you, He or it shall also quicken (bring to life) your mortal (dead) body. God can actually live in us and through us MIKE, Just as he did Jesus in exactly the same way. His spirit can enter and leave our bodies , jut as our spirit can leave our body when we die.

I can not for the life of me, understand why you and others can not understand that simple thing. The CHRISTOS, or Anointing Spirit, was on the Prophets and leader of Old, guiding them in the Wilderness. It was not, a “PREEXISTING” Man Jesus, but the Spirit of the Living GOD itself, and it spoke through them the will of God.

peace and love to you and yours………………….gene

March 3, 2014 at 1:28 am#372210