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Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,03:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,13:38) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 11 2013,06:30) Hi Wakeup: I missed your question asking me if I believe that Jesus is the Word. I believe that he is the Son of the Living God through whom God has spoken to humanity. He is not “the Word”. The Word is what God has spoken through him. I have already given you scriptures. And the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.How would you interpret this verse.
**And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us**.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:The Greek word translated “Word” in John 1 including John 1:14 is “Logos” and it means “the sayings of God” and these sayings of God involved a plan to reconcile His children unto Himself through Jesus.
And so, the sayings of God pertain to Jesus and God's sending forth His Son into the world at a specified point in time which He did.
And so, the way I interpret John 1:14 is that those sayings of God pertaining to Jesus became a reality.
If you will look at a Greek interlinear New Testament you will see the that underneath the word “Logos” will be the English word “sayings”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.The sayings of God is just another explanation for the Word of God.
The Word of God is a living Word,a Being that he brought forth out of himself;and they had glory together.
Therfore God said in Isaiah: There is no God beside me.
Beside me there is no saviour. I alone created everything,
my right hand did it. I am alpha and omega,the first and the last.wakeup.
September 14, 2013 at 10:37 pm#357679WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 11 2013,22:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,17:32) Terra. A few scriptures to make it more clear.
John 6:44 *No man can come to me*, except the Father which hath sent me *draw him*: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will *draw all men unto me*.
God has many ways to draw his children out fo babylon.
Jesus is the magnet; only certain metals can a magnet draw.wakeup.
WAKEUPWHAT I UNDERSTAND OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS ,THAT GOD GIVES YOU THE MAGNET AND THEN LATER TAKE THE MAGNETISM OF CHRIST TO PULL YOU IN ?
IN ONE WAY ALL IS DONE BY GOD THEN ?
SO WE HAVE NO CHOICE ,THE FORCES OF THE ATTRACTION IS WHAT LEAD US OR KILLS US ?
Terra.I really thought that you knew God.
Now I can see that you really dont know him.
Because you simply can not understand
the deep things.Can not understand that he knew you before you are born
and can see you in your old days,and on which side of the fence you will walk.wakeup.
September 14, 2013 at 10:45 pm#357680WakeupParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Sep. 15 2013,08:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,07:33) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2013,04:17) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 07 2013,15:10) Hi Wakeup: The problem is that you have not read all that Jesus said in John 6 in context. The Jews were offended because he was speaking about eating his flesh and drinking his flesh………..
The Jews were also confused that Jesus, a man whose parents they all knew, said he came down from heaven.But not one of them failed to understand WHAT he said. They just didn't understand WHY he would say such a thing.
I believe my Lord literally came down from heaven – just like he said he did.
Do you?
Mike,Do believe that those who do not eat Jesus' literal flesh and literal blood will not enter the kingdom of heaven?
Do you instead believe Jesus was speaking metaphorically?
In each case why do you believe what you do?
Kerwin.When you read the scriptures;
are you not moved sometimes by those words in print.
Does it not stirrup your spirit?
Well that's because of the *spirit* in those words.That is *the body of Christ*;and that's what we should eat of. Forget the flesh,he is spirit.
Mens words also have a spirit;
The spirit of anger.
The spirit of love.
The spirit of deceiving.
The spirit of envy.
The spirit of lying.If one read a sad story book;one sometimes cry.
Because of *the spirit* of sadness is in the words.wakeup.
Wakeup,My purpose was to point out that a “literal” interpretation can be a foolish interpretation. Mike did not answer my questions but you chose to use them to make your own point, though I am unclear how it relates to my own words.
Words can be used to evoke and appeal to emotion but Jesus' words are meant to appeal to the desire for the Spirit in those that hunger and thirst for righteousness. Jesus' “flesh” and “blood” fill those desires. Am I understanding you correctly.
Hi Kerwin.Those scriptures have been misunderstood
and still is.
They simply can not comprehend nor see
that his flesh is the words he had spoken.
For they are spirit, and it is the spirit that quickens.wakeup.
September 15, 2013 at 12:42 am#357686942767ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,09:30) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,03:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,13:38) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 11 2013,06:30) Hi Wakeup: I missed your question asking me if I believe that Jesus is the Word. I believe that he is the Son of the Living God through whom God has spoken to humanity. He is not “the Word”. The Word is what God has spoken through him. I have already given you scriptures. And the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.How would you interpret this verse.
**And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us**.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:The Greek word translated “Word” in John 1 including John 1:14 is “Logos” and it means “the sayings of God” and these sayings of God involved a plan to reconcile His children unto Himself through Jesus.
And so, the sayings of God pertain to Jesus and God's sending forth His Son into the world at a specified point in time which He did.
And so, the way I interpret John 1:14 is that those sayings of God pertaining to Jesus became a reality.
If you will look at a Greek interlinear New Testament you will see the that underneath the word “Logos” will be the English word “sayings”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.The sayings of God is just another explanation for the Word of God.
The Word of God is a living Word,a Being that he brought forth out of himself;and they had glory together.
Therfore God said in Isaiah: There is no God beside me.
Beside me there is no saviour. I alone created everything,
my right hand did it. I am alpha and omega,the first and the last.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:I agree that the saying of God is just another way for saying the Word of God.
Quote
Hbr 1:1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hbr 1:2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;I agree that the Word of God is a living Word, and proceeds forth through his representatives, prophets, angels, Jesus.
Jesus was made “a life giving spirit through the Word of God that was spoken to humanity through him and that he obeyed without sin unto death on the cross”.
However, the Word of God originated from God, and not from him.
I suppose that you are referring to the following scripture when you say that “they had glory together”.
Quote
Jhn 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.He says “Now glorify thou me with thine own self”, not “glorify me again with the glory that I had with thee before the world was”.
This was forseen from the beginning, and that is what this is saying not that Jesus was some pre-existent being who was with God in the beginning, and so, now he has that glory with God as head of the church sitted at the right hand of God.
Please post the scripture that reference in Isaiah. God said that He was alone when He created the world.
Love in Christ,
MartySeptember 15, 2013 at 1:24 am#357689terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,04:20) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2013,03:46) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,17:32) Terra. A few scriptures to make it more clear.
John 6:44 *No man can come to me*, except the Father which hath sent me *draw him*: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will *draw all men unto me*.
God has many ways to draw his children out fo babylon.
Jesus is the magnet; only certain metals can a magnet draw.wakeup.
WAKEUPtrue ,God never changes ;BUT YOU SEEM TO HAVE MADE ,HIM DIFFERENT IN HIS OWN ACTIONS ;
NEVER DID GOD DREW ANYONE ,EITHER IN TRUTH,RIGHTEOUSNESS
OR EVIL WAYS ,IT IS TRUE THAT GOD ;AS USED THE EVIL OF MEN, AND THE RIGHTEOUS TO SHOW THE DEEDS OF THEM BOTH ,
AND SO ALWAYS ;INVITING ALL MEN TO DO GOOD AND SHY EVIL ,
THIS IS THE BASE OF OUR OWN SALVATION
LIKE I SAY ,YOU LIKE TO BELIEVE IN A LIE ,BUT I DO NOT ,
SO THIS CONVERSATION IS NOW CLOSE ;
Terra.Can you not understand that those were Jesus words?
John 6:44 *No man can come to me*, except the Father which hath sent me *draw him*: and I will raise him up at the last day.
You are arguing against Jesus,not me,for those are not my words.
wakeup.
Quote Can you not understand that those were Jesus words? THEN LIVE BY THEM ;
BUT EVEN THAT YOU CAN NOT DO ;
OR SHOW ;
I HAVE GIVEN YOU QUESTIONS ;YOU HAVE REFUSE TO ANSWERED THEM ;YOU HAVE BY THIS ;CHANGE THE WAY OF GOD;
AND MAKE A LIAR OUT OF ;PETER,JOHN,JESUS,MATTHEW,PAUL,MOSES ,THE PROPHETS ,AND I PASSING MOST OF THEM;
SO AGAIN THIS CONVERSATION IS NOW CLOSED ;
September 15, 2013 at 4:08 am#357696WakeupParticipantQuote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,11:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,09:30) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,03:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,13:38) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 11 2013,06:30) Hi Wakeup: I missed your question asking me if I believe that Jesus is the Word. I believe that he is the Son of the Living God through whom God has spoken to humanity. He is not “the Word”. The Word is what God has spoken through him. I have already given you scriptures. And the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.How would you interpret this verse.
**And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us**.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:The Greek word translated “Word” in John 1 including John 1:14 is “Logos” and it means “the sayings of God” and these sayings of God involved a plan to reconcile His children unto Himself through Jesus.
And so, the sayings of God pertain to Jesus and God's sending forth His Son into the world at a specified point in time which He did.
And so, the way I interpret John 1:14 is that those sayings of God pertaining to Jesus became a reality.
If you will look at a Greek interlinear New Testament you will see the that underneath the word “Logos” will be the English word “sayings”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.The sayings of God is just another explanation for the Word of God.
The Word of God is a living Word,a Being that he brought forth out of himself;and they had glory together.
Therfore God said in Isaiah: There is no God beside me.
Beside me there is no saviour. I alone created everything,
my right hand did it. I am alpha and omega,the first and the last.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:I agree that the saying of God is just another way for saying the Word of God.
Quote
Hbr 1:1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hbr 1:2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;I agree that the Word of God is a living Word, and proceeds forth through his representatives, prophets, angels, Jesus.
Jesus was made “a life giving spirit through the Word of God that was spoken to humanity through him and that he obeyed without sin unto death on the cross”.
However, the Word of God originated from God, and not from him.
I suppose that you are referring to the following scripture when you say that “they had glory together”.
Quote
Jhn 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.He says “Now glorify thou me with thine own self”, not “glorify me again with the glory that I had with thee before the world was”.
This was forseen from the beginning, and that is what this is saying not that Jesus was some pre-existent being who was with God in the beginning, and so, now he has that glory with God as head of the church sitted at the right hand of God.
Please post the scripture that reference in Isaiah. God said that He was alone when He created the world.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty.I hope you take all scriptures seriously,
not like Terra; he likes to trample on them
like nothing;yet *speaks* greatly about the scriptures.
Only speak but dont practice.I am really disappointed.Here is that scripture,and some of proverbs.
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; ***God himself that formed the earth and made it***; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; **and there is none else**.
Proverbs 8:22 The LORD *possessed me* in the beginning of his way, *before his works of old*.
Proverbs 8:23 ** I was set up from everlasting**, **from the beginning**, or ever the earth was.
Proverbs 8:24 When there were no depths, **I was brought forth**; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Proverbs 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was **I brought forth**:
Proverbs 8:26 **While as yet he had not made the earth**, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Proverbs 8:27 **When he prepared the heavens, I was there**: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Proverbs 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
Proverbs 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Proverbs 8:30 **Then I was by him**, as one *brought up with him*: and *I was daily his delight*, rejoicing always **before him**;
wakeup.
September 15, 2013 at 4:11 pm#357714terrariccaParticipantQuote I hope you take all scriptures seriously,
not like Terra;MARTY
WHAT WAKEUP TRY TO TELL HERE ,IS THAT HE HOPES YOU ARE SEEING HIS WAY ;IF NOT “IT WOULD NOT BE AN SERIOUS ANSWER
September 15, 2013 at 6:26 pm#357722942767ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,15:08) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,11:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,09:30) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,03:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,13:38) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 11 2013,06:30) Hi Wakeup: I missed your question asking me if I believe that Jesus is the Word. I believe that he is the Son of the Living God through whom God has spoken to humanity. He is not “the Word”. The Word is what God has spoken through him. I have already given you scriptures. And the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.How would you interpret this verse.
**And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us**.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:The Greek word translated “Word” in John 1 including John 1:14 is “Logos” and it means “the sayings of God” and these sayings of God involved a plan to reconcile His children unto Himself through Jesus.
And so, the sayings of God pertain to Jesus and God's sending forth His Son into the world at a specified point in time which He did.
And so, the way I interpret John 1:14 is that those sayings of God pertaining to Jesus became a reality.
If you will look at a Greek interlinear New Testament you will see the that underneath the word “Logos” will be the English word “sayings”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.The sayings of God is just another explanation for the Word of God.
The Word of God is a living Word,a Being that he brought forth out of himself;and they had glory together.
Therfore God said in Isaiah: There is no God beside me.
Beside me there is no saviour. I alone created everything,
my right hand did it. I am alpha and omega,the first and the last.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:I agree that the saying of God is just another way for saying the Word of God.
Quote
Hbr 1:1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hbr 1:2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;I agree that the Word of God is a living Word, and proceeds forth through his representatives, prophets, angels, Jesus.
Jesus was made “a life giving spirit through the Word of God that was spoken to humanity through him and that he obeyed without sin unto death on the cross”.
However, the Word of God originated from God, and not from him.
I suppose that you are referring to the following scripture when you say that “they had glory together”.
Quote
Jhn 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.He says “Now glorify thou me with thine own self”, not “glorify me again with the glory that I had with thee before the world was”.
This was forseen from the beginning, and that is what this is saying not that Jesus was some pre-existent being who was with God in the beginning, and so, now he has that glory with God as head of the church sitted at the right hand of God.
Please post the scripture that reference in Isaiah. God said that He was alone when He created the world.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty.I hope you take all scriptures seriously,
not like Terra; he likes to trample on them
like nothing;yet *speaks* greatly about the scriptures.
Only speak but dont practice.I am really disappointed.Here is that scripture,and some of proverbs.
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; ***God himself that formed the earth and made it***; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; **and there is none else**.
Proverbs 8:22 The LORD *possessed me* in the beginning of his way, *before his works of old*.
Proverbs 8:23 ** I was set up from everlasting**, **from the beginning**, or ever the earth was.
Proverbs 8:24 When there were no depths, **I was brought forth**; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Proverbs 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was **I brought forth**:
Proverbs 8:26 **While as yet he had not made the earth**, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Proverbs 8:27 **When he prepared the heavens, I was there**: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Proverbs 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
Proverbs 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Proverbs 8:30 **Then I was by him**, as one *brought up with him*: and *I was daily his delight*, rejoicing always **before him**;
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:In my daily morning prayer to God, and Father, I ask Him to correct me if I am teaching anything that is not His Word or doing anything that is not His will, and so, yes, I do take the scriptures seriously, however, I may disagree with what you teach.
I do agree with the following scripture that you posted:
Quote Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; ***God himself that formed the earth and made it***; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; **and there is none else**. This shows that God is the creator, and not Jesus as some are teaching and maybe that you are trying to imply, as you said something about “my right hand did it” or something to that extent, and so, I asked you to post the scripture, and so, we see that statement is not there, and so, it is very important to post the scripture rather than try to recall what was said from memory.
The scriptures that you post from Proverbs may relate to Jesus indirectly, because he was foreordained, and it through him God's plan
for humanity was fulfilled, and God's Word was spoken to humanity through him in these latter days, but this scriptures are speaking about “Wisdom”.Let me post the scripture that states this:
Quote
Pro 8:8All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
Pro 8:9
They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
Pro 8:10
Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
Pro 8:11For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
Love in Christ,
MartySeptember 15, 2013 at 10:04 pm#357727kerwinParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 15 2013,08:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,09:00) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,07:33) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2013,04:17) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 07 2013,15:10) Hi Wakeup: The problem is that you have not read all that Jesus said in John 6 in context. The Jews were offended because he was speaking about eating his flesh and drinking his flesh………..
The Jews were also confused that Jesus, a man whose parents they all knew, said he came down from heaven.But not one of them failed to understand WHAT he said. They just didn't understand WHY he would say such a thing.
I believe my Lord literally came down from heaven – just like he said he did.
Do you?
Mike,Do believe that those who do not eat Jesus' literal flesh and literal blood will not enter the kingdom of heaven?
Do you instead believe Jesus was speaking metaphorically?
In each case why do you believe what you do?
Kerwin.When you read the scriptures;
are you not moved sometimes by those words in print.
Does it not stirrup your spirit?
Well that's because of the *spirit* in those words.That is *the body of Christ*;and that's what we should eat of. Forget the flesh,he is spirit.
Mens words also have a spirit;
The spirit of anger.
The spirit of love.
The spirit of deceiving.
The spirit of envy.
The spirit of lying.If one read a sad story book;one sometimes cry.
Because of *the spirit* of sadness is in the words.wakeup.
Wakeup,My purpose was to point out that a “literal” interpretation can be a foolish interpretation. Mike did not answer my questions but you chose to use them to make your own point, though I am unclear how it relates to my own words.
Words can be used to evoke and appeal to emotion but Jesus' words are meant to appeal to the desire for the Spirit in those that hunger and thirst for righteousness. Jesus' “flesh” and “blood” fill those desires. Am I understanding you correctly.
Hi Kerwin.Those scriptures have been misunderstood
and still is.
They simply can not comprehend nor see
that his flesh is the words he had spoken.
For they are spirit, and it is the spirit that quickens.wakeup.
Wakeup,Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. Jesus also has faith for the righteous live by faith and he lived righteously. All of these are in some manner symbolized by Jesus' blood and flesh.
September 15, 2013 at 11:05 pm#357734terrariccaParticipantQuote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
September 16, 2013 at 2:11 am#357746WakeupParticipantQuote (942767 @ Sep. 16 2013,05:26) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,15:08) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,11:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,09:30) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,03:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,13:38) Quote (942767 @ Sep. 11 2013,06:30) Hi Wakeup: I missed your question asking me if I believe that Jesus is the Word. I believe that he is the Son of the Living God through whom God has spoken to humanity. He is not “the Word”. The Word is what God has spoken through him. I have already given you scriptures. And the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.How would you interpret this verse.
**And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us**.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:The Greek word translated “Word” in John 1 including John 1:14 is “Logos” and it means “the sayings of God” and these sayings of God involved a plan to reconcile His children unto Himself through Jesus.
And so, the sayings of God pertain to Jesus and God's sending forth His Son into the world at a specified point in time which He did.
And so, the way I interpret John 1:14 is that those sayings of God pertaining to Jesus became a reality.
If you will look at a Greek interlinear New Testament you will see the that underneath the word “Logos” will be the English word “sayings”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.The sayings of God is just another explanation for the Word of God.
The Word of God is a living Word,a Being that he brought forth out of himself;and they had glory together.
Therfore God said in Isaiah: There is no God beside me.
Beside me there is no saviour. I alone created everything,
my right hand did it. I am alpha and omega,the first and the last.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:I agree that the saying of God is just another way for saying the Word of God.
Quote
Hbr 1:1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hbr 1:2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;I agree that the Word of God is a living Word, and proceeds forth through his representatives, prophets, angels, Jesus.
Jesus was made “a life giving spirit through the Word of God that was spoken to humanity through him and that he obeyed without sin unto death on the cross”.
However, the Word of God originated from God, and not from him.
I suppose that you are referring to the following scripture when you say that “they had glory together”.
Quote
Jhn 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.He says “Now glorify thou me with thine own self”, not “glorify me again with the glory that I had with thee before the world was”.
This was forseen from the beginning, and that is what this is saying not that Jesus was some pre-existent being who was with God in the beginning, and so, now he has that glory with God as head of the church sitted at the right hand of God.
Please post the scripture that reference in Isaiah. God said that He was alone when He created the world.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty.I hope you take all scriptures seriously,
not like Terra; he likes to trample on them
like nothing;yet *speaks* greatly about the scriptures.
Only speak but dont practice.I am really disappointed.Here is that scripture,and some of proverbs.
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; ***God himself that formed the earth and made it***; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; **and there is none else**.
Proverbs 8:22 The LORD *possessed me* in the beginning of his way, *before his works of old*.
Proverbs 8:23 ** I was set up from everlasting**, **from the beginning**, or ever the earth was.
Proverbs 8:24 When there were no depths, **I was brought forth**; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Proverbs 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was **I brought forth**:
Proverbs 8:26 **While as yet he had not made the earth**, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Proverbs 8:27 **When he prepared the heavens, I was there**: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Proverbs 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
Proverbs 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Proverbs 8:30 **Then I was by him**, as one *brought up with him*: and *I was daily his delight*, rejoicing always **before him**;
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:In my daily morning prayer to God, and Father, I ask Him to correct me if I am teaching anything that is not His Word or doing anything that is not His will, and so, yes, I do take the scriptures seriously, however, I may disagree with what you teach.
I do agree with the following scripture that you posted:
Quote Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; ***God himself that formed the earth and made it***; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; **and there is none else**. This shows that God is the creator, and not Jesus as some are teaching and maybe that you are trying to imply, as you said something about “my right hand did it” or something to that extent, and so, I asked you to post the scripture, and so, we see that statement is not there, and so, it is very important to post the scripture rather t
han try to recall what was said from memory.The scriptures that you post from Proverbs may relate to Jesus indirectly, because he was foreordained, and it through him God's plan for humanity was fulfilled, and God's Word was spoken to humanity through him in these latter days, but this scriptures are speaking about “Wisdom”.
Let me post the scripture that states this:
Quote
Pro 8:8All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
Pro 8:9
They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
Pro 8:10
Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
Pro 8:11For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty.Here is the scripture you are asking me to show.
Isaiah 48:13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my *right hand hath spanned the heavens*: when *I call* unto them, they stand up together.
In the old days God spoke *TO* the prophets;*TO* angels.
In the last days God spoke *THROUGH* his son.Wisdom is in the Word of God,for all creation is made with the wisdom of God. All created by the Word of wisdom.
There can be no creation without wisdom.The Word was made flesh. From Word(spirit), to flesh.
The Word was always with God from everlasting,there was not a time when God had no Word.(wordless).We also know that JESUS/WORD created all things.
Psalms 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by ***the breath of his mouth***. (WORD).(COMMAND).
V9). FOR *HE SPAKE* AND IT WAS DONE;HE *COMMANDED* AND IT STOOD FAST.
wakeup.
September 16, 2013 at 2:42 am#357749kerwinParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,05:05) Quote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
T,The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. It is God's Spirit, he lives by it and he does not sin. It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know.
September 16, 2013 at 2:57 am#357751terrariccaParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,08:42) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,05:05) Quote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
T,The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. It is God's Spirit, he lives by it and he does not sin. It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know.
ARE TAKEN ME FOR A CRACK POTYOU ARE TALKING IN A SENS ,THAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ,BECAUSE IT MAKE NO SENS ;
CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR QUOTE I GUESS NOT ;
Quote The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. LOOK YOU MAKE IT MORE AND MORE DARKER ;
NOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHAT IS” THE SPIRIT BY WHICH A MAN LIVES AND NOT SIN”
BUT HAVE TO AD “WHAT IS SIN “
Quote Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. WHAT YOU MEAN
Quote It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW , AND FOR YOUR INFO ,IT DOES NOT SEEMS LIKE SOME THING I WOULD TEACH ,
LOOK HOW COMPLICATED YOU ARE GETTING IN TRY TO DEFINE ANYTHING RELATED TO “SPIRIT ”
I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF ALL YOUR REALLY SAYING .
September 16, 2013 at 4:48 am#357763kerwinParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,08:57) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,08:42) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,05:05) Quote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
T,The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. It is God's Spirit, he lives by it and he does not sin. It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know.
ARE TAKEN ME FOR A CRACK POTYOU ARE TALKING IN A SENS ,THAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ,BECAUSE IT MAKE NO SENS ;
CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR QUOTE I GUESS NOT ;
Quote The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. LOOK YOU MAKE IT MORE AND MORE DARKER ;
NOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHAT IS” THE SPIRIT BY WHICH A MAN LIVES AND NOT SIN”
BUT HAVE TO AD “WHAT IS SIN “
Quote Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. WHAT YOU MEAN
Quote It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW , AND FOR YOUR INFO ,IT DOES NOT SEEMS LIKE SOME THING I WOULD TEACH ,
LOOK HOW COMPLICATED YOU ARE GETTING IN TRY TO DEFINE ANYTHING RELATED TO “SPIRIT ”
I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF ALL YOUR REALLY SAYING .
T,You should know these thing because Scripture already teaches them literally and outright.
Ephesians 4:3-6
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Galatians 5:22-23
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Each and every part of the unity of the Spirit has the Spirit and lives by it.
September 16, 2013 at 5:48 am#357768terrariccaParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,10:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,08:57) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,08:42) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,05:05) Quote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
T,The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. It is God's Spirit, he lives by it and he does not sin. It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know.
ARE TAKEN ME FOR A CRACK POTYOU ARE TALKING IN A SENS ,THAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ,BECAUSE IT MAKE NO SENS ;
CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR QUOTE I GUESS NOT ;
Quote The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. LOOK YOU MAKE IT MORE AND MORE DARKER ;
NOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHAT IS” THE SPIRIT BY WHICH A MAN LIVES AND NOT SIN”
BUT HAVE TO AD “WHAT IS SIN “
Quote Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. WHAT YOU MEAN
Quote It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW , AND FOR YOUR INFO ,IT DOES NOT SEEMS LIKE SOME THING I WOULD TEACH ,
LOOK HOW COMPLICATED YOU ARE GETTING IN TRY TO DEFINE ANYTHING RELATED TO “SPIRIT ”
I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF ALL YOUR REALLY SAYING .
T,You should know these thing because Scripture already teaches them literally and outright.
Ephesians 4:3-6
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Galatians 5:22-23
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Each and every part of the unity of the Spirit has the Spirit and lives by it.
YOU PLAYING A GAME RIGHT ? AND ONLY YOU HAVE FUN RIGHTSO YOU NEVER TELL ME WHAT IS THE SPIRIT ;FOR ONE ;
YOU COME UP WITH DIFFERENT MEANINGS OF SPIRIT ;FOR TWO
YOU MIXED ALL THEN YOU QUOTE THE SCRIPTURES OF PAUL BELIEVING THAT IT IS ALL BUT THE SAME AND HAVE A LUFF
READING THE QUOTE ,YOU JUST ARE A SELF ESTABLISH NEW INTERPRETER OF THE SCRIPTURES RIGHT ?
AND LOOK HOW YOU RUN AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL QUESTION
September 16, 2013 at 6:19 am#357773WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,16:48) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,10:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,08:57) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,08:42) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,05:05) Quote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
T,The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. It is God's Spirit, he lives by it and he does not sin. It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know.
ARE TAKEN ME FOR A CRACK POTYOU ARE TALKING IN A SENS ,THAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ,BECAUSE IT MAKE NO SENS ;
CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR QUOTE I GUESS NOT ;
Quote The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. LOOK YOU MAKE IT MORE AND MORE DARKER ;
NOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHAT IS” THE SPIRIT BY WHICH A MAN LIVES AND NOT SIN”
BUT HAVE TO AD “WHAT IS SIN “
Quote Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. WHAT YOU MEAN
Quote It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW , AND FOR YOUR INFO ,IT DOES NOT SEEMS LIKE SOME THING I WOULD TEACH ,
LOOK HOW COMPLICATED YOU ARE GETTING IN TRY TO DEFINE ANYTHING RELATED TO “SPIRIT ”
I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF ALL YOUR REALLY SAYING .
T,You should know these thing because Scripture already teaches them literally and outright.
Ephesians 4:3-6
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Galatians 5:22-23
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Each and every part of the unity of the Spirit has the Spirit and lives by it.
YOU PLAYING A GAME RIGHT ? AND ONLY YOU HAVE FUN RIGHTSO YOU NEVER TELL ME WHAT IS THE SPIRIT ;FOR ONE ;
YOU COME UP WITH DIFFERENT MEANINGS OF SPIRIT ;FOR TWO
YOU MIXED ALL THEN YOU QUOTE THE SCRIPTURES OF PAUL BELIEVING THAT IT IS ALL BUT THE SAME AND HAVE A LUFF
READING THE QUOTE ,YOU JUST ARE A SELF ESTABLISH NEW INTERPRETER OF THE SCRIPTURES RIGHT ?
AND LOOK HOW YOU RUN AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL QUESTION
Terra.This means that you have *NOTHING* that bound you to Jesus. There is a blank space between you and Jesus.
Its just you, and your own spirit that binds
you to yourself.All creation is framed by the Word of God.
Bound by the spirit of God. But you are different.
Nothing binds you but you.wakeup.
September 16, 2013 at 6:45 am#357779terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:19) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,16:48) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,10:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,08:57) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,08:42) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,05:05) Quote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
T,The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. It is God's Spirit, he lives by it and he does not sin. It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know.
ARE TAKEN ME FOR A CRACK POTYOU ARE TALKING IN A SENS ,THAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ,BECAUSE IT MAKE NO SENS ;
CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR QUOTE I GUESS NOT ;
Quote The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. LOOK YOU MAKE IT MORE AND MORE DARKER ;
NOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHAT IS” THE SPIRIT BY WHICH A MAN LIVES AND NOT SIN”
BUT HAVE TO AD “WHAT IS SIN “
Quote Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. WHAT YOU MEAN
Quote It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW , AND FOR YOUR INFO ,IT DOES NOT SEEMS LIKE SOME THING I WOULD TEACH ,
LOOK HOW COMPLICATED YOU ARE GETTING IN TRY TO DEFINE ANYTHING RELATED TO “SPIRIT ”
I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF ALL YOUR REALLY SAYING .
T,You should know these thing because Scripture already teaches them literally and outright.
Ephesians 4:3-6
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Galatians 5:22-23
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Each and every part of the unity of the Spirit has the Spirit and lives by it.
YOU PLAYING A GAME RIGHT ? AND ONLY YOU HAVE FUN RIGHTSO YOU NEVER TELL ME WHAT IS THE SPIRIT ;FOR ONE ;
YOU COME UP WITH DIFFERENT MEANINGS OF SPIRIT ;FOR TWO
YOU MIXED ALL THEN YOU QUOTE THE SCRIPTURES OF PAUL BELIEVING THAT IT IS ALL BUT THE SAME AND HAVE A LUFF
READING THE QUOTE ,YOU JUST ARE A SELF ESTABLISH NEW INTERPRETER OF THE SCRIPTURES RIGHT ?
AND LOOK HOW YOU RUN AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL QUESTION
Terra.This means that you have *NOTHING* that bound you to Jesus. There is a blank space between you and Jesus.
Its just you, and your own spirit that binds
you to yourself.All creation is framed by the Word of God.
Bound by the spirit of God. But you are different.
Nothing binds you but you.wakeup.
DID I HURT YOU SO BADLY ? BY TELLING YOU THE TRUTHTHAT YOU HAVE TO CHANGE MY QUOTES ,TO MAKE YOUR FALSE POINT
IT SEEMS THAT CHRIST IS DEFINITELY NOT ON YOUR SIDE ,SEEN BY YOUR ACTIONS ,
Quote All creation is framed by the Word of God.
Bound by the spirit of GodSCRIPTURES ?
September 16, 2013 at 6:58 am#357782WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:45) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:19) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,16:48) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,10:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,08:57) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,08:42) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,05:05) Quote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
T,The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. It is God's Spirit, he lives by it and he does not sin. It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know.
ARE TAKEN ME FOR A CRACK POTYOU ARE TALKING IN A SENS ,THAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ,BECAUSE IT MAKE NO SENS ;
CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR QUOTE I GUESS NOT ;
Quote The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. LOOK YOU MAKE IT MORE AND MORE DARKER ;
NOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHAT IS” THE SPIRIT BY WHICH A MAN LIVES AND NOT SIN”
BUT HAVE TO AD “WHAT IS SIN “
Quote Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. WHAT YOU MEAN
Quote It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW , AND FOR YOUR INFO ,IT DOES NOT SEEMS LIKE SOME THING I WOULD TEACH ,
LOOK HOW COMPLICATED YOU ARE GETTING IN TRY TO DEFINE ANYTHING RELATED TO “SPIRIT ”
I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF ALL YOUR REALLY SAYING .
T,You should know these thing because Scripture already teaches them literally and outright.
Ephesians 4:3-6
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Galatians 5:22-23
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Each and every part of the unity of the Spirit has the Spirit and lives by it.
YOU PLAYING A GAME RIGHT ? AND ONLY YOU HAVE FUN RIGHTSO YOU NEVER TELL ME WHAT IS THE SPIRIT ;FOR ONE ;
YOU COME UP WITH DIFFERENT MEANINGS OF SPIRIT ;FOR TWO
YOU MIXED ALL THEN YOU QUOTE THE SCRIPTURES OF PAUL BELIEVING THAT IT IS ALL BUT THE SAME AND HAVE A LUFF
READING THE QUOTE ,YOU JUST ARE A SELF ESTABLISH NEW INTERPRETER OF THE SCRIPTURES RIGHT ?
AND LOOK HOW YOU RUN AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL QUESTION
Terra.This means that you have *NOTHING* that bound you to Jesus. There is a blank space between you and Jesus.
Its just you, and your own spirit that binds
you to yourself.All creation is framed by the Word of God.
Bound by the spirit of God. But you are different.
Nothing binds you but you.wakeup.
DID I HURT YOU SO BADLY ? BY TELLING YOU THE TRUTHTHAT YOU HAVE TO CHANGE MY QUOTES ,TO MAKE YOUR FALSE POINT
IT SEEMS THAT CHRIST IS DEFINITELY NOT ON YOUR SIDE ,SEEN BY YOUR ACTIONS ,
Quote All creation is framed by the Word of God.
Bound by the spirit of GodSCRIPTURES ?
Terra.You are a stiff necked person with brass eye brows.
You preach alone just with nothing. Even Mohamad came in the spirit of allah.wakeup.
September 16, 2013 at 7:33 am#357787terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:58) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:45) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:19) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,16:48) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,10:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,08:57) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,08:42) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,05:05) Quote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
T,The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. It is God's Spirit, he lives by it and he does not sin. It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know.
ARE TAKEN ME FOR A CRACK POTYOU ARE TALKING IN A SENS ,THAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ,BECAUSE IT MAKE NO SENS ;
CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR QUOTE I GUESS NOT ;
Quote The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. LOOK YOU MAKE IT MORE AND MORE DARKER ;
NOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHAT IS” THE SPIRIT BY WHICH A MAN LIVES AND NOT SIN”
BUT HAVE TO AD “WHAT IS SIN “
Quote Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. WHAT YOU MEAN
Quote It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW , AND FOR YOUR INFO ,IT DOES NOT SEEMS LIKE SOME THING I WOULD TEACH ,
LOOK HOW COMPLICATED YOU ARE GETTING IN TRY TO DEFINE ANYTHING RELATED TO “SPIRIT ”
I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF ALL YOUR REALLY SAYING .
T,You should know these thing because Scripture already teaches them literally and outright.
Ephesians 4:3-6
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Galatians 5:22-23
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Each and every part of the unity of the Spirit has the Spirit and lives by it.
YOU PLAYING A GAME RIGHT ? AND ONLY YOU HAVE FUN RIGHTSO YOU NEVER TELL ME WHAT IS THE SPIRIT ;FOR ONE ;
YOU COME UP WITH DIFFERENT MEANINGS OF SPIRIT ;FOR TWO
YOU MIXED ALL THEN YOU QUOTE THE SCRIPTURES OF PAUL BELIEVING THAT IT IS ALL BUT THE SAME AND HAVE A LUFF
READING THE QUOTE ,YOU JUST ARE A SELF ESTABLISH NEW INTERPRETER OF THE SCRIPTURES RIGHT ?
AND LOOK HOW YOU RUN AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL QUESTION
Terra.This means that you have *NOTHING* that bound you to Jesus. There is a blank space between you and Jesus.
Its just you, and your own spirit that binds
you to yourself.All creation is framed by the Word of God.
Bound by the spirit of God. But you are different.
Nothing binds you but you.wakeup.
DID I HURT YOU SO BADLY ? BY TELLING YOU THE TRUTHTHAT YOU HAVE TO CHANGE MY QUOTES ,TO MAKE YOUR FALSE POINT
IT SEEMS THAT CHRIST IS DEFINITELY NOT ON YOUR SIDE ,SEEN BY YOUR ACTIONS ,
Quote All creation is framed by the Word of God.
Bound by the spirit of GodSCRIPTURES ?
Terra.You are a stiff necked person with brass eye brows.
You preach alone just with nothing. Even Mohamad came in the spirit of allah.wakeup.
UNLESS,YOU ARE GOING TO PUT GODS WORD IN YOUR HEART ,SO THAT WHEN I TALK TO YOU I DO NOT HAVE TO EAR ,THAT WORLDLY DEGRADED MAN SAYING ME THINGS THAT DO NOT REFLECT A TRUE BELIEVER,THE ABUNDANCE IN THE HEART SPEAKS OUT ;
September 16, 2013 at 8:06 am#357792WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,18:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:58) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,17:45) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,12:19) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,16:48) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,10:48) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,08:57) Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2013,08:42) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,05:05) Quote Jesus' words are (Spirit)ual and by them one can receive the same Spirit that Jesus used to overcome the world. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHO TOLD YOU
HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT THAT CHRIST USED TO OVERCOME THE WORLD
I LIKE TO KNOW YOUR ANSWERS HERE
T,The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. It is God's Spirit, he lives by it and he does not sin. It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know.
ARE TAKEN ME FOR A CRACK POTYOU ARE TALKING IN A SENS ,THAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ,BECAUSE IT MAKE NO SENS ;
CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR QUOTE I GUESS NOT ;
Quote The man who lives by the Spirit does not sin even though tempted as it common to man. LOOK YOU MAKE IT MORE AND MORE DARKER ;
NOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU WHAT IS” THE SPIRIT BY WHICH A MAN LIVES AND NOT SIN”
BUT HAVE TO AD “WHAT IS SIN “
Quote Even angels that do not sin live by the Spirit. WHAT YOU MEAN
Quote It is the one Spirit that unifies them all. This you should already know. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW , AND FOR YOUR INFO ,IT DOES NOT SEEMS LIKE SOME THING I WOULD TEACH ,
LOOK HOW COMPLICATED YOU ARE GETTING IN TRY TO DEFINE ANYTHING RELATED TO “SPIRIT ”
I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF ALL YOUR REALLY SAYING .
T,You should know these thing because Scripture already teaches them literally and outright.
Ephesians 4:3-6
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Galatians 5:22-23
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Each and every part of the unity of the Spirit has the Spirit and lives by it.
YOU PLAYING A GAME RIGHT ? AND ONLY YOU HAVE FUN RIGHTSO YOU NEVER TELL ME WHAT IS THE SPIRIT ;FOR ONE ;
YOU COME UP WITH DIFFERENT MEANINGS OF SPIRIT ;FOR TWO
YOU MIXED ALL THEN YOU QUOTE THE SCRIPTURES OF PAUL BELIEVING THAT IT IS ALL BUT THE SAME AND HAVE A LUFF
READING THE QUOTE ,YOU JUST ARE A SELF ESTABLISH NEW INTERPRETER OF THE SCRIPTURES RIGHT ?
AND LOOK HOW YOU RUN AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL QUESTION
Terra.This means that you have *NOTHING* that bound you to Jesus. There is a blank space between you and Jesus.
Its just you, and your own spirit that binds
you to yourself.All creation is framed by the Word of God.
Bound by the spirit of God. But you are different.
Nothing binds you but you.wakeup.
DID I HURT YOU SO BADLY ? BY TELLING YOU THE TRUTHTHAT YOU HAVE TO CHANGE MY QUOTES ,TO MAKE YOUR FALSE POINT
IT SEEMS THAT CHRIST IS DEFINITELY NOT ON YOUR SIDE ,SEEN BY YOUR ACTIONS ,
Quote All creation is framed by the Word of God.
Bound by the spirit of GodSCRIPTURES ?
Terra.You are a stiff necked person with brass eye brows.
You preach alone just with nothing. Even Mohamad came in the spirit of allah.wakeup.
UNLESS,YOU ARE GOING TO PUT GODS WORD IN YOUR HEART ,SO THAT WHEN I TALK TO YOU I DO NOT HAVE TO EAR ,THAT WORLDLY DEGRADED MAN SAYING ME THINGS THAT DO NOT REFLECT A TRUE BELIEVER,THE ABUNDANCE IN THE HEART SPEAKS OUT ;
Terra.
I am doing it for love of a brother.
Sometimes just a hammer does not work.
One need a sledge hammer.
I dont have any anger in me.Because you have been deceived and dont know it.
Maybe ice cold water will do the trick.wakeup.
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