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………….. IS THERE A “THE” ANTICHRIST?
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:18.
Note that the Greek does not state “the” antichrist shall come. The meaning could be the spirit of all those opposed to Christ, and not necessarily a single individual, as there are many antichrists as 1 John tell us.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19
Note that six times the reference is to … “they”, not one individual.
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ: He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22.
Is the word “he” in this passage indicating one single individual? Is there only one that denies?
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1 John 4:3.
Does the text say “the” antichrist should come, or is it “the spirit of antichrist” that should come? The text tells us that “it” is already in the world. Clearly “it” is the spirit of those opposed to Christ and not a single individual.
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 7.
Do the above prove that there is one single individual that is “the” antichrist? I think not.
However, the Bible indicates the following as being a single individual or a singular horn or kingdom.
[/B]“The” little horn.
“The” man of sin.
“The” son of perdition.“The” rider on the first white horse.
“The” beast out of the earth.
“The” first beast.
“The” second beast.
“The” false prophet.
“The” numbered beast.
“The” image of the beast.Using the term “the antichrist” (as though there is only one) is deceptive and leads to confusion if we wiosh to seriously discuss (for example) the False Prophet, or the image of the beast etc..
Revelation NEVER uses the term antichrist to identify one of its subjects … this is the imaginings of man.
Satan is quite satisfied that Christians continue to use that erm, for as long as they do, the identity of those individual subjects in Revelation and elsewhere remains clouded and obscure, leading to confusion by using such and all encompassing, non specific identifying term.
Example: If you were to say … Obama is “the antichrist”
The question still remains unclear as to what you are claiming.
Are you saying he is the “little horn”?
Are you saying he is one of the beasts?
Are you saying he is the false prophet?
Are you saying he is the numbered beast?
Are you slaying he is the image of the beast?Consider the statement “He is antichrist”.
compare that fuzzy, non identifying, all encompassing statement to the following:A discussion is taking place between two Christians that study and understand Bible prophecy wherein one says:
“The papacy is the False Prophet.”
That cuts to the quick. There is no confusion. Whether he is right or wrong in his claim, you KNOW exactly what he is claiming. Your mind is not cluttered up with all the other possible options.
I think there would be much less confusion between opposing posters if they would come straight out and say exactly what they mean and who they are referring to instead of the reader having to decipher some fuzzy statement or word as antichrist.
I hope this makes sense to some of the readers of this thread.
It shouldn't take long to see if it has. If not, thank you for your time and goodbye.selah
Quote (selah @ Mar. 12 2010,10:52) ………….. IS THERE A “THE” ANTICHRIST? Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:18.
Note that the Greek does not state “the” antichrist shall come. The meaning could be the spirit of all those opposed to Christ, and not necessarily a single individual, as there are many antichrists as 1 John tell us.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19
Note that six times the reference is to … “they”, not one individual.
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ: He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22.
Is the word “he” in this passage indicating one single individual? Is there only one that denies?
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1 John 4:3.
Does the text say “the” antichrist should come, or is it “the spirit of antichrist” that should come? The text tells us that “it” is already in the world. Clearly “it” is the spirit of those opposed to Christ and not a single individual.
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 7.
Do the above prove that there is one single individual that is “the” antichrist? I think not.
However, the Bible indicates the following as being a single individual or a singular horn or kingdom.
[/B]“The” little horn.
“The” man of sin.
“The” son of perdition.“The” rider on the first white horse.
“The” beast out of the earth.
“The” first beast.
“The” second beast.
“The” false prophet.
“The” numbered beast.
“The” image of the beast.Using the term “the antichrist” (as though there is only one) is deceptive and leads to confusion if we wiosh to seriously discuss (for example) the False Prophet, or the image of the beast etc..
Revelation NEVER uses the term antichrist to identify one of its subjects … this is the imaginings of man.
Satan is quite satisfied that Christians continue to use that erm, for as long as they do, the identity of those individual subjects in Revelation and elsewhere remains clouded and obscure, leading to confusion by using such and all encompassing, non specific identifying term.
Example: If you were to say … Obama is “the antichrist”
The question still remains unclear as to what you are claiming.
Are you saying he is the “little horn”?
Are you saying he is one of the beasts?
Are you saying he is the false prophet?
Are you saying he is the numbered beast?
Are you slaying he is the image of the beast?Consider the statement “He is antichrist”.
compare that fuzzy, non identifying, all encompassing statement to the following:A discussion is taking place between two Christians that study and understand Bible prophecy wherein one says:
“The papacy is the False Prophet.”
That cuts to the quick. There is no confusion. Whether he is right or wrong in his claim, you KNOW exactly what he is claiming. Your mind is not cluttered up with all the other possible options.
I think there would be much less confusion between opposing posters if they would come straight out and say exactly what they mean and who they are referring to instead of the reader having to decipher some fuzzy statement or word as antichrist.
I hope this makes sense to some of the readers of this thread.
It shouldn't take long to see if it has. If not, thank you for your time and goodbye.selah
Hi Selah,You have properly identified 'antichrist' as THE 'spirit of antichrist'!
Question is: Why do you think the Papacy is 'the false prophet'?
Identifying 'the false prophet'
1) 'Babylon' and 'quran' both have “Gematria” values of (71) Seventy One.
2) Muslims believe that the 'quran' is 666… Click here and Click here
3) The writer of the quran (Mohammad) is considered the 'last prophet'
4) The quran denies both the Father and the Son as outlined in 1John2:22!
A. They deny the Father by saying there is no (falsely) Gospel. (John 3:16)
B. The inscription on the 'dome of the rock' in Jerusalem: 'allah has no son'. (Matt.24:15)
5) According to Sharia law: it is considered “Hate Speech” for a “Christian” to
talk to a Muslim about “Christ”; worthy of a beheading: LOOK at Rev.20:4!
6) The quran was declared (falsely) to be given by the angel “Gabriel”…Here is what the “Scripture” says
Gal:1:8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
2Cor:11:14: And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.2 Cor.4:3-3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god
of this world(satan) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light
of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. (Eph.5:13-14)All this information CAN be verified!
Can there remain any remaining doubt as to who 'the false prophet' is?God bless you all; my brothers and sisters!
Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgselah
There have been many antichrist ever since Christ ascended to heaven, they were for the most part individuals trying to get a following for them self. Paul talked about them in Galatians, and the apostle John. “He”, meaning, any one, but you don't have to not believe Jesus came in the flesh to be an antichrist, if you teach a false gospel you are an antichrist.
But there is mentioning of one individual that would do more then get a following; this individual would become a ruler, and make war with the saints, persecute them, torture them, and execute them.
He is referred to in Dan. 7:8 as the little horn, horn stands for king, little means he had a small beginning.
“The” little horn.
“The” man of sin.
“The” son of perdition.
“The” rider on the first white horse.
“The” beast out of the earth.
“The” second beast.
“The” false prophet.
“The” numbered beast.
“The” image of the beast.
All these titles belong to one individual, the pope.
Could you say Obama had his beginning during the Roman empire.
Who else but the Vatican could you identify as having structured their government after Rome? becoming the image.
Who else but Rome and the RCC persecuted the saints?
Who made himself a crown, and declared himself a ruler?
What other individual declared himself to be the “Vicar of Christ?
Who else but the pope has the number 666 in the title on his crown?
What other ruler ruled for 1260 years as prophcyed?
And finally, is the pope teaching the true gospel?
If you were to consider this as evidence, I would say, it is overwhelming.Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 12 2010,12:50) selah There have been many antichrist ever since Christ ascended to heaven, they were for the most part individuals trying to get a following for them self. Paul talked about them in Galatians, and the apostle John. “He”, meaning, any one, but you don't have to not believe Jesus came in the flesh to be an antichrist, if you teach a false gospel you are an antichrist.
But there is mentioning of one individual that would do more then get a following; this individual would become a ruler, and make war with the saints, persecute them, torture them, and execute them.
He is referred to in Dan. 7:8 as the little horn, horn stands for king, little means he had a small beginning.
“The” little horn.
“The” man of sin.
“The” son of perdition.
“The” rider on the first white horse.
“The” beast out of the earth.
“The” second beast.
“The” false prophet.
“The” numbered beast.
“The” image of the beast.
All these titles belong to one individual, the pope.
Could you say Obama had his beginning during the Roman empire.
Who else but the Vatican could you identify as having structured their government after Rome? becoming the image.
Who else but Rome and the RCC persecuted the saints?
Who made himself a crown, and declared himself a ruler?
What other individual declared himself to be the “Vicar of Christ?
Who else but the pope has the number 666 in the title on his crown?
What other ruler ruled for 1260 years as prophcyed?
And finally, is the pope teaching the true gospel?
If you were to consider this as evidence, I would say, it is overwhelming.Georg
Hi Georg,What evidence? All I see are opinions and 'Georg logic'?
Ed J
Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 04 2010,13:05) Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 04 2010,00:26) I compare the bad things Elvis did to the beast in being #1- I hear all the time people refer him an “The King”. To me thats blasphemous. Music is the oldest media there is. There are flutes dating back way before history. After languages were established came lyrics and songs. The meanings to the songs reflect and whats popular reflect what the people want,feel, and believe. King David, whose throne was established forever through Jesus, was God inspired in his songs and lyrics(psalms). Inspiration is the launching board for all the arts, and they can be good or they can be bad. Although Elvis sung Gospel, he did not live out good values. I believe that was a distraction to what really happened. He gave the people what they wanted and his image was one of money and popularity. Even before he died the, the music style had turned to the worst part of humanity, a hypocritical, evil , godless sprit.' Imagine ' from John Lennon, was about peace. Good seeming, but it was about peace through no god “imaging theres no heaven,it's easy if you try, no hell below us, above us only sky”. It only got worse from there, but a common theme was sex, drugs, and rock and roll(God said”is there any rock but me?”) Right now, at NFL and NBA games, at timeout and media breaks, they sometimes play” hells bells “. You can notice it because it begins with a tolling of a large bell. Nobody cares to notice the lyrics, but they tell you satans taking you to hell and theres nothing you can do about it. “Won't take no prisoners, won't spare no lives, nobodys puttin up a fight, we got the power gonna take you to hell, were gonna get ya, satan get ya, hells bells” later”if youre into evil your a friend of mine”. Noone complains. Austrailia treats them like favored sons. Besides them look at Ozzy, Metallica, Guns and roses etc. Just google thier lyrics and tell me theyre not evil. You older people will be out of the picture and it will be paramount to any music. The people who have never been to church and heard a good inspired hymn will only have this in thier heads. Also look at any rock concert video, especially hard rock. They hold thier hands up with thier index finger and pinky fingers up, like horns, it's thier sign. Also many gangs use some form of this. I know not many people believe this but it's true. The 60's generation spawned “a whole new breed of men without souls” and they turned into the greedy me me mes that caused us to be in this incredible mess that the government will not be able fix. The roots of this , however, began before Elvis. Sitting in an airport with alot of time to kill, I started reading the passages in my passport at the top of the pages. I came to page 20 and 21. At the top, it states “For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest sleeping in the unplowed ground. Is our world gone? We say “Farewell” Is a new world coming? We welcome it-and we will bend it to the hopes of man. -Lyndon B. Johnson” Not hopes of God, hopes of man.
Hi Mike ,(sorry to interupt Selah and George!)A good book I once read is called 'Warning: Psychiatry Can Be Hazardous To Your Mental Health by William Glasser
It puts it all into perspective, It talks about evolutionists and how they plan to evolve into something higher (OH-Kay!) and how they plan to dumb down us people like animals by using things like music,(just as you described) psychiatry, education, the media etc, its I think written from a Christian mans point of view though I may have got that wrong- it was a while ago, but- a really good read!
Oh my gosh Mike iv given you the wrong book title, I couldnt cheak it cause it was years ago when I had the book, and I thought I knew a few keywords to the title, and googled it, and thought that was it which I gave you then my slow internet wouldnt open the book sample on amazon, it only just has, thats not the book! Thats something else im so sorry. I dont know what that book is! I should get my facts straight!Iv sent you a pm Mike in case you miss this Im hoping you log in !Well I will pray you do, I have no idea what that book was!
I do not believe the pope is the anti-christ. Imperfect yes. Sinful yes. Antichrist no. He does profess that Jesus is the son of God, the anti-christ would not. I find great comfort in knowing that God will set things straight and has everything under control. I think one of the first things he will do when he comes is to show that all churches are imperfect, especially the ones who #1- profess that they have a monopoly on grace and#2 the ones who do not revere his son. God is coming and he is going to be looking for faith, not doctrines or traditions. I believe that the anti-christ will be well concealed, so the wise should focus on God and not let anything in the world distract themselves from him. For instance, in my church after service I hear many men talk about football. They even have team logos on thier cars, but no christian fish. Who are they promoting? I hear others talk of who is good on 'American idol'.Couple of days ago the 'Oscars' were the main story. Strangely enough, Oscar is a gold statue of a man coveted by all movie 'stars'. My point is this, I do not believe the anti-christ will be very obvious, besides all other distractions to God, so the wise should stay focused on God and love one another as he commanded, bar none. Marana tha!
My whole post was about the use of “antichrist” rather than using one of the specific biblical terms that could be used instead, to make the discussion crystal clear as to the suspect or subject identified in Revelation. Image, mark, number first beast etc..
I don't know if others are following this thread, but note the response of Ed J and Georg regarding their “answer” to the question posed.
Both miss the mark completely. Both avoid or neglect to address the meat content of the post.Ed J asks a diversionary question (why do you think the papacy is the “false prophet”?). That has absolutely nothing to do with the only biblical passages that use the term “antichrist”, and I presented them all.
On any other discussion board that I have been on, I would have received a reply such as:
Yes I agree, if Christians are seriously discussing the book of Revelation, there is a much more specific term or title to use rather than using the generic term “the antichrist”. … and not found in the Book of Revelation.
Or, “you are wrong, using the term “the antichrist” is perfectly biublical when trying to identify or discuss those specific subjects in Revelation.”
At least Georg has stated that all the terms or titles I listed, belong to one individual, the pope.
Whether he is right or wrong is not a concern or question of my clearly stated post.I will now repeat the final sentences of my post:
“A discussion is taking place between two Christians that study and understand Bible prophecy wherein on says: “The papacy is the False Prophet”.
That cuts to the quick. There is no confusion. Whether he is right or wrong in his claim, you KNOW exactly what he is claiming. Your mind is not cluttered up with all the other possible options.I think there would be much less confusion between opposing posters if they would come straight out and say exactly what they mean and who they are referring to instead of the reader having to decipher some fuzzy statement or word as 'antichrist'.”
I gave an “example” of a discussion. I said two people were having a discussion, and yet Ed J asks me:
“why do you think the papacy is the 'false prophet'”?If I had given a different example wherein one of the Christians had said: “The Whitehouse is the False Prophet”.
Would Ed J be now asking me “why do you (Selah) think the Whitehouse is the 'false prophet'?If there are any here that have followed this thread, or read my post, I would ask of you a simple question:
Would you prefer one of the following titles or designations to be used if you were discussing Revelation with others?
Would it make things any more clear for you, or are you satisfied with the term “the antichrist”?The rider on the first white horse.
The beast out of the earth.
The first beast.
The second beast.
The false prophet.
The numbered (666) beast.
The Image of the beast.Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 13 2010,00:29) I do not believe the pope is the anti-christ. Imperfect yes. Sinful yes. Antichrist no. He does profess that Jesus is the son of God, the anti-christ would not. I find great comfort in knowing that God will set things straight and has everything under control. I think one of the first things he will do when he comes is to show that all churches are imperfect, especially the ones who #1- profess that they have a monopoly on grace and#2 the ones who do not revere his son. God is coming and he is going to be looking for faith, not doctrines or traditions. I believe that the anti-christ will be well concealed, so the wise should focus on God and not let anything in the world distract themselves from him. For instance, in my church after service I hear many men talk about football. They even have team logos on thier cars, but no christian fish. Who are they promoting? I hear others talk of who is good on 'American idol'.Couple of days ago the 'Oscars' were the main story. Strangely enough, Oscar is a gold statue of a man coveted by all movie 'stars'. My point is this, I do not believe the anti-christ will be very obvious, besides all other distractions to God, so the wise should stay focused on God and love one another as he commanded, bar none. Marana tha!
I completly agree with you Mike in all you say here.Iv always seen distractions as a trick, theyre everywhere , I mean look at life today! God will know the heart of all.
Selah,
First, as to your first post, like I stated before, I think the gematra about Gods differant titles are amazing, too far out to be concidence. The jacket my wife gave me the day after I read that had 74 on it, I am wearing it now. I needed a 'pick me up' from God and you helped give it to me, thanks. Second, I think the term anti-christ is the best term in discussing Revalations, at least to me, instead of the other designations you just mentioned. Opinions are like behinds, everyones got one, and I'm kinda partial to mine, because I know what I have read, and prayed about it, and let my concience tell me what it means, especially in relation to the world today. I think every christian has an obligation to read the bible and let god converse with them, constantly praying for the guidance of the holy spirit. As I stated before, I feel the spritual Elvis born after he died is the first beast.The lifestyles, lyrics and actions of rock 'stars' just prove how evil man has become. The second beast is the media, et al. Through worldwide distrubution and promotion rock has permeated every corner of the globe. I feel the false prophet was Mohammed, in that he claimed to be superior to Jews and Christians, and denied Jesus' resurrection or divinity. I feel this is coming to a head in the middle east, and Israel (and America for that matter) is ripe for punishment, and the Iranians are currently making plutonium to blow Israel back to God, thinking it will bring God's judgement (they're right, but in for a shock). Thats what I read and believe, but thats not whats important. Whats important is believing in God's son and loving each other as he commanded. Love and peace to you. Blest be “74” forever!Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 13 2010,12:35) Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 13 2010,00:29) I do not believe the pope is the anti-christ. Imperfect yes. Sinful yes. Antichrist no. He does profess that Jesus is the son of God, the anti-christ would not. I find great comfort in knowing that God will set things straight and has everything under control. I think one of the first things he will do when he comes is to show that all churches are imperfect, especially the ones who #1- profess that they have a monopoly on grace and#2 the ones who do not revere his son. God is coming and he is going to be looking for faith, not doctrines or traditions. I believe that the anti-christ will be well concealed, so the wise should focus on God and not let anything in the world distract themselves from him. For instance, in my church after service I hear many men talk about football. They even have team logos on thier cars, but no christian fish. Who are they promoting? I hear others talk of who is good on 'American idol'.Couple of days ago the 'Oscars' were the main story. Strangely enough, Oscar is a gold statue of a man coveted by all movie 'stars'. My point is this, I do not believe the anti-christ will be very obvious, besides all other distractions to God, so the wise should stay focused on God and love one another as he commanded, bar none. Marana tha!
I completly agree with you Mike in all you say here.Iv always seen distractions as a trick, theyre everywhere , I mean look at life today! God will know the heart of all.
Thanks Karmarie, Like I said before, we will meet someday, I wish it was today. Love and peace, MikeQuote (mikeangel @ Mar. 13 2010,14:56) Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 13 2010,12:35) Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 13 2010,00:29) I do not believe the pope is the anti-christ. Imperfect yes. Sinful yes. Antichrist no. He does profess that Jesus is the son of God, the anti-christ would not. I find great comfort in knowing that God will set things straight and has everything under control. I think one of the first things he will do when he comes is to show that all churches are imperfect, especially the ones who #1- profess that they have a monopoly on grace and#2 the ones who do not revere his son. God is coming and he is going to be looking for faith, not doctrines or traditions. I believe that the anti-christ will be well concealed, so the wise should focus on God and not let anything in the world distract themselves from him. For instance, in my church after service I hear many men talk about football. They even have team logos on thier cars, but no christian fish. Who are they promoting? I hear others talk of who is good on 'American idol'.Couple of days ago the 'Oscars' were the main story. Strangely enough, Oscar is a gold statue of a man coveted by all movie 'stars'. My point is this, I do not believe the anti-christ will be very obvious, besides all other distractions to God, so the wise should stay focused on God and love one another as he commanded, bar none. Marana tha!
I completly agree with you Mike in all you say here.Iv always seen distractions as a trick, theyre everywhere , I mean look at life today! God will know the heart of all.
Thanks Karmarie, Like I said before, we will meet someday, I wish it was today. Love and peace, Mike
Its always nice to have someone like you come along and cheer up a dull day Mike, im glad to meet you and look forward to the day. What is your picture thing under your name? I cant quite make out what it is!selah
Are all these titles confusing you?
The world speaks of THE ANTICHRIST to come, do you believe that?
Do you also believe in a rapture before this ANTICHRIST begins to rule?
I have given explanation to each of the titles why they apply to the pope of Rome.
What prevents you to make your comments, or ask questions, regardless of the titles?
You were the one who put all the titles down, I only explained who's they were.
Did I say you have to believe me, or agree with me?
I have always tried to be thorough in my explanations, using scripture “AND” historical data; if you're still not clear in you mind, why not ask?Georg
Did you hear the latest news?
The chief Exorcist in the Catholic Church believes Satan has infiltrated the Vatican.
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Mike angel,
Thanks for the encouragement about “74”.
But you have me confused by your statement.
You feel comfortable using the term antichrist when discussing Revelation, but then you state that Elvis is the first beast, the media is the second beast and Muhammed is the false prophet.
In your mind, is Elvis “the antichrist”?
Is the media “the antichrist”?
Is Muhammed “the antichrist”?Do you now understand the intent of my post regarding using the terms you initially used, which were Elvis first beast media second beast Muhammed false prophet
Thank you Mike, by your own example (whether you realize it or not) you have just confirmed the intent of my post far better than I could have.
Hi all
My Family are Catholics, The words “Son of God, Christ Jesus the Lord' are used most of the time during Church.
Its alot different than in Islam- “God has no Son”
This is repeated in the Quran and Ed is correct, the Mosque in Jerusalem has etched into it the words “God has no Son”Has anyone here ever experienced Islam? Well I have and its so strong, you can never truely leave it, it becomes a part of you, but as most who left it for Christianity would understand, you would lay down your life and die to tell them the truth of Jesus. It is the strongest Religeon in the World and is growing every day.
It has to fit into the books somewhere.
I actually see Islam more in Revelations 9 though.Selah,
To me, as I read it, The first beast, second beast, and the false prophet are three separate entities. In Rev 19,v20-“The beast was captured along with the false phrophet”, That's two differant entities. The second beast made the world worship the first beast-13v11″then I saw another wild beast come up out of the earth”, also a separate entity form the first beast. In my view, that's three separate, a trinity of evil, from the one devil. I've read alot of interpretations of Revalations and Daniel, and most base thier assumptions on things that happened along time ago, but what I base what I believe is happeninng on whats happened recently and now. I believe God wrote the bible so that one cannot readily predict who and what is all of these things, they are a mystery known only to him certainly. Everyone else is guessing, including myself. Certain things are fulfilled for sure, certain things are hidden, so that one must be devoted to God and ready to open the door whoever the antichrist is.”beware, I come like a thief!” How does one do that? In my opinion, God has said over and over in the bible this is not accomplished by following doctrines, or rituals, but by loving God and your fellow man(or women), bar none. Sitting here and telling someone they're wrong isn't what I believe nurtures that, but by attempting (no one succeeds, only attempts thier best) God's will. Also, as I read it, God does want you to fellowship and assemble with other christions, and let your light shine. One way is right here. One way is church. One good thing about all the differant beliefs is that there is problibly a church that fits what you believe, or at least comes close. You take literally the statement about snakes not biting and drinking poison? There is a church for that. You do not like Catholics or believe they're not right? You do not have to go there.(Although If I were me I wouldn't judge them). You want to worship like Jesus and still profess belief in him? There's the messianic Jewish congreation. If you cannot find one then there is also getting one other believer and invoking Jesus, Get some unleavened bread and grape juice or wine(a sip will do),do that in rememberance of Jesus, And go out and do something for God. Is. 58v6″releasing those bound unjustly, untying the thongs of the yoke,Sharing your bread with the hungry, sheltering the opressed and the homeless, clothing the naked, and not turning your back on your own. There is no excuse for not turning to the God who created you, whoever the antichrist is.
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