A Closer look

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2012,15:39)

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,22:05) Hi Wakeup To understand prophecy you should compare the statue of Daniel 2 with the four beasts of Daniel 7. THE GREAT RIDDLE “the beast that was, and is not, and yet is” HAS FINALLY BEEN SOLVED! Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).” Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. To understand the 'spirit of antichrist we must look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3 in historical context… Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15), having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon (Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.                                      Head 1: Egypt  -one head -one horn -one crown                                      Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown Head of gold:                Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown                           …Lion (Daniel 7:4) Arms of silver:               Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown               …Bear (Daniel 7:5) Thighs of brass:            Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns                   …Leopard (Daniel 7:6) Feet of iron & clay:        Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown                             …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)                                          Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown                                               Then it suffered a deadly wound:                                        Muhammad did not have a world empire,                                        but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of                                        the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3) Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition. All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11) First this leopard beast looses “-THREE CROWNS” and the camouflage spots exposing it as the great red dragon of Rev.12:3:                    Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;              and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and              ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.                                                           The quran prophecy                                    The beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship                                    the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast) Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.                     Next this great red dragon looses “-THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and the spirit of antichrist's plan of world conquest is fully exposed:                Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,           full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”        islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link) Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) edj Quote THE GREAT RIDDLE “the beast that was, and is not, and yet is” HAS FINALLY BEEN SOLVED! Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).” Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. is it solved i do not see it where is the solution ?

It is in the Post.

[Devolution]

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,19:20)

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,18:24) Hi Devolution, So why do YOU say the lion in Daniels dream was Media? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Devolution?

Ed,

Did you read that big post i just posted today?
It's on this 2nd page Ed.
It is in there concerning the first beast being Media.
Hope you read it.

Thanks Ed.

[Ed J]

Quote (Devolution @ June 17 2012,19:39)

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,19:20) Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,18:24) Hi Devolution, So why do YOU say the lion in Daniels dream was Media? God bless Ed J Devolution? Ed, Did you read that big post i just posted today? It's on this 2nd page Ed. It is in there concerning the first beast being Media. Hope you read it. Thanks Ed.

Hi Devolution,

So far You have only said why you do not believe the lion is Babylon.
So now please state why YOU do believe the lion in Daniels dream was Media?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,18:55)

Hi Devolution, Do you believe the bible can be used to explain the bible? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Also please comment on this post; OK?

[Ed J]

Quote (Devolution @ June 17 2012,19:18)

Okay Ed, Maybe i'm brain damaged or something, because i can not see your interpretation within those chapters at all. Cheers.

Hi Devolution,

At least if you can understand what I have said we are making progress.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Devolution]

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,19:46)

Quote (Devolution @ June 17 2012,19:39) Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,19:20) Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,18:24) Hi Devolution, So why do YOU say the lion in Daniels dream was Media? God bless Ed J Devolution? Ed, Did you read that big post i just posted today? It's on this 2nd page Ed. It is in there concerning the first beast being Media. Hope you read it. Thanks Ed. Hi Devolution, So far You have only said why you do not believe the lion is Babylon. So now please state why YOU do believe the lion in Daniels dream was Media? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

I wasted my time giving such lengthy explanations. LOL, i knew i should have kept it simple and brief!

Since i put so much time into answering you Ed, i insist that you answer me first.

1- Those four beasts in Daniel chapter 7, what do they stand for?

2- What does SHALL mean?

Cheers.

[Ed J]

Quote (Devolution @ June 18 2012,00:06)

Hi Ed, (A)I wasted my time giving such lengthy explanations.  LOL, i knew i should have kept it simple and brief! (B)Since i put so much time into answering you Ed, i insist that you answer me first. 1- Those four beasts in Daniel chapter 7, what do they stand for? 2- What does SHALL mean? Cheers.

Hi Devolution,

A) Why would you consider explaining what you believe a waste of time?

B) You don't always answer my questions?      …Please answer my following post; OK, Devolution?

1) Animals: which represent “middle-eastern-world-empires”.

2) Shall   (Webster)

1 – archaic a : will have to : must
     b : will be able to : can

2 – a —used to express a command or exhortation (you shall go)
     b —used in laws, regulations, or directives to express what is mandatory (it shall be unlawful to carry firearms)

3 – a —used to express what is inevitable or seems likely to happen in the future (we shall have to be ready) (we shall see)
     b —used to express simple futurity (when shall we expect you)

4 – —used to express determination (they shall not pass)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Devolution,

Will you please state why the lion in Daniels dream (YOU believe) was Media?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,18:55)

Hi Devolution, Do you believe the bible can be used to explain the bible? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Also please answer this question; OK Devolution?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,02:49)

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2012,18:55) Hi Devolution, Do you believe the bible can be used to explain the bible? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Also please comment on this post; OK?

Edj

It is not all about you ,and what you want

If you can not see anything wrong in the post that Devolution lay out

Then that ok ,your presentation was faulty I have told you that back ,way back,

Same mistake Georg did in his presentation ,

So do you can improve on Devo presentation from scriptures

And of cause scriptures interprete scriptures but it is still need truth to it

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,01:24)

Hi Devolution, So why do YOU say the lion in Daniels dream was Media? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj

You should read his quote then you would know ,I as well told way back that the lion can not be Babylone

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre, you and Devolution are both using faulty logic here.

That is like saying one is lying because they are not telling the truth.
You can ask David the JW about this, because he is a practitioner in this art.
I ask him questions and he does not tell me the truth, but he is careful not to lie.
Saying it is not Babylon is not an answer?     …I hope you can see the difference now.

So I again ask: why do YOU believe the lion in Daniels dream was Media?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Devolution and Pierre,

Lets compare Daniel Chapter 2 to Daniel Chapter 7 OK?…

Head of gold:                Babylon                           …Lion (Daniel 7:4)

Arms of silver:               Medo-Persians                …Bear (Daniel 7:5)

Thighs of brass:            Greece                            …Leopard (Daniel 7:6)

In Daniel Chapter 2 Media and Persia are represented together as arms of silver.
So why do you believe in Daniel chapter 7 they are represented separately?
And need I remind you, saying the lion is not Babylon is not an answer.

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We are in agreement here about both the leopard
and the thighs of brass representing Greece; correct?
So lets backtrack first before we begin moving forward OK?

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In Daniel Chapter 7: the bear lifts itself up on one side,
which (I believe) represent Persia being stronger than Media.
Do you have 'an alternate explanation'? because one is needed.

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This bear also has three ribs in its mouth,
which (I believe) represent the three previous Empires.
Do you have 'an alternate explanation'? because one is needed.

1. Egypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,18:55)

Hi Pierre, you and Devolution are both using faulty logic here. That is like saying one is lying because they are not telling the truth. You can ask David the JW about this, because he is a practitioner in this art. I ask him questions and he does not tell me the truth, but he is careful not to lie. Saying it is not Babylon is not an answer?     …I hope you can see the difference now. So I again ask: why do YOU believe the lion in Daniels dream was Media? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

I am tired of always repeat what is already said in the quotes

so read the quotes

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,18:56)

Hi Devolution and Pierre, Lets compare Daniel Chapter 2 to Daniel Chapter 7 OK?… Head of gold:                Babylon                           …Lion (Daniel 7:4) Arms of silver:               Medo-Persians                …Bear (Daniel 7:5) Thighs of brass:            Greece                            …Leopard (Daniel 7:6) In Daniel Chapter 2 Media and Persia are represented together as arms of silver. So why do you believe in Daniel chapter 7 they are represented separately? And need I remind you, saying the lion is not Babylon is not an answer. We are in agreement here about both the leopard and the thighs of brass representing Greece; correct? So lets backtrack first before we begin moving forward OK? In Daniel Chapter 7: the bear lifts itself up on one side, which (I believe) represent Persia being stronger than Media. Do you have 'an alternate explanation'? because one is needed. This bear also has three ribs in its mouth, which (I believe) represent the three previous Empires. Do you have 'an alternate explanation'? because one is needed. 1. Egypt 2. Assyria 3. Babylon God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

put you quote next to Devo and see what it says ,do not ask what can easy been seen

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2012,12:21)

Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,18:55) Hi Pierre, you and Devolution are both using faulty logic here. That is like saying one is lying because they are not telling the truth. You can ask David the JW about this, because he is a practitioner in this art. I ask him questions and he does not tell me the truth, but he is careful not to lie. Saying it is not Babylon is not an answer?     …I hope you can see the difference now. So I again ask: why do YOU believe the lion in Daniels dream was Media? God bless Ed J edj I am tired of always repeat what is already said in the quotes so read the quotes

PIERRE

There was no answer to my question in your quote,
so repeating it would be useless, would it not?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2012,12:22)

Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,18:56) Hi Devolution and Pierre, Lets compare Daniel Chapter 2 to Daniel Chapter 7 OK?… Head of gold:                Babylon                           …Lion (Daniel 7:4) Arms of silver:               Medo-Persians                …Bear (Daniel 7:5) Thighs of brass:            Greece                            …Leopard (Daniel 7:6) In Daniel Chapter 2 Media and Persia are represented together as arms of silver. So why do you believe in Daniel chapter 7 they are represented separately? And need I remind you, saying the lion is not Babylon is not an answer. We are in agreement here about both the leopard and the thighs of brass representing Greece; correct? So lets backtrack first before we begin moving forward OK? In Daniel Chapter 7: the bear lifts itself up on one side, which (I believe) represent Persia being stronger than Media. Do you have 'an alternate explanation'? because one is needed. This bear also has three ribs in its mouth, which (I believe) represent the three previous Empires. Do you have 'an alternate explanation'? because one is needed. 1. Egypt 2. Assyria 3. Babylon God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj put you quote next to Devo and see what it says ,do not ask what can easy been seen

No answers, only criticism as usual; ayh?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,19:30)

Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2012,12:21) Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,18:55) Hi Pierre, you and Devolution are both using faulty logic here. That is like saying one is lying because they are not telling the truth. You can ask David the JW about this, because he is a practitioner in this art. I ask him questions and he does not tell me the truth, but he is careful not to lie. Saying it is not Babylon is not an answer?     …I hope you can see the difference now. So I again ask: why do YOU believe the lion in Daniels dream was Media? God bless Ed J edj I am tired of always repeat what is already said in the quotes so read the quotes PIERRE There was no answer to my question in your quote, so repeating it would be useless, would it not? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

DEVO's quote the long one

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2012,12:34)

Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,19:30) Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2012,12:21) Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,18:55) Hi Pierre, you and Devolution are both using faulty logic here. That is like saying one is lying because they are not telling the truth. You can ask David the JW about this, because he is a practitioner in this art. I ask him questions and he does not tell me the truth, but he is careful not to lie. Saying it is not Babylon is not an answer?     …I hope you can see the difference now. So I again ask: why do YOU believe the lion in Daniels dream was Media? God bless Ed J edj I am tired of always repeat what is already said in the quotes so read the quotes PIERRE There was no answer to my question in your quote, so repeating it would be useless, would it not? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj DEVO's quote the long one

Saying it is not Babylon is not an answer?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,19:31)

Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2012,12:22) Quote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,18:56) Hi Devolution and Pierre, Lets compare Daniel Chapter 2 to Daniel Chapter 7 OK?… Head of gold:                Babylon                           …Lion (Daniel 7:4) Arms of silver:               Medo-Persians                …Bear (Daniel 7:5) Thighs of brass:            Greece                            …Leopard (Daniel 7:6) In Daniel Chapter 2 Media and Persia are represented together as arms of silver. So why do you believe in Daniel chapter 7 they are represented separately? And need I remind you, saying the lion is not Babylon is not an answer. We are in agreement here about both the leopard and the thighs of brass representing Greece; correct? So lets backtrack first before we begin moving forward OK? In Daniel Chapter 7: the bear lifts itself up on one side, which (I believe) represent Persia being stronger than Media. Do you have 'an alternate explanation'? because one is needed. This bear also has three ribs in its mouth, which (I believe) represent the three previous Empires. Do you have 'an alternate explanation'? because one is needed. 1. Egypt 2. Assyria 3. Babylon God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj put you quote next to Devo and see what it says ,do not ask what can easy been seen No answers, only criticism as usual; ayh?

edj

with reasons ,you play the question game all the time

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