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  • #320690
    Devolution
    Participant

    Hi all, here is a little test if anyone wants to give it a go, I won't highlight any words for clues but leave it how it stands and see if any are able to see what the Lord is saying…and if you can explain this, then we will then, by this, be lead to another subject linked to this one which will help confirm a certain interpretation hotly debated

    Isaiah 27:1
       In that day The Lord with his sore and great sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent, and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

    Any takers?

    #320701
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Devolution,  (Link) – (2Thess.2:3)

    “Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said,
     I am God, I sit in the seat of God” (Ezekiel 28:2 / 2Thess.2:4)

    “Wilt thou yet say before (Ed J,) him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou
     (son of perdition) shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #320718
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,17:15)
    Hi Devolution,  (Link) – (2Thess.2:3)

    “Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said,
     I am God, I sit in the seat of God” (Ezekiel 28:2 / 2Thess.2:4)

    “Wilt thou yet say before (Ed J,) him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou
     (son of perdition) shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,

    Nope, that's actually incorrect.

    Anyone else care to try?

    #320720
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 17 2012,19:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,17:15)
    Hi Devolution,  (Link) – (2Thess.2:3)

    “Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said,
     I am God, I sit in the seat of God” (Ezekiel 28:2 / 2Thess.2:4)

    “Wilt thou yet say before (Ed J,) him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou
     (son of perdition) shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,

    Nope, that's actually incorrect.

    Anyone else care to try?


    HA Ha ha ha ha ha

    #320731
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,20:00)

    Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 17 2012,19:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,17:15)
    Hi Devolution,  (Link) – (2Thess.2:3)

    “Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said,
     I am God, I sit in the seat of God” (Ezekiel 28:2 / 2Thess.2:4)

    “Wilt thou yet say before (Ed J,) him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou
     (son of perdition) shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezekiel 28:9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,

    Nope, that's actually incorrect.

    Anyone else care to try?


    HA Ha ha ha ha ha


    Ed,

    I'm glad you are so confident, I really am…but I assure you, you are wrong.
    This scripture isn't as clear cut as you think….yet, I must say in your defence….it's nothing to be ashamed of Ed, after all, this is much too advanced for one as yourself  and I never expected you to see it anyway, so don't worry, I don't think any less of you than I already did :D

    #320733
    Ed J
    Participant

    Let's compare notes then:

           Devolution  said:

    Quote
    this is much too advanced for one as yourself


    I've been studying “The Bible”(63) for over 40 years; how about you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #320735
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,21:47)
    Let's compare notes then:

           Devolution  said:

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    this is much too advanced for one as yourself

    I've been studying “The Bible”(63) for over 40 years; how about you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    Oh Ed,

    Don't feel defensive, it's not your fault you've been reading all sorts of books giving you all sorts of strange doctrines over your 40 odd years of, um…”study”…instead of just sticking with the source ( the bible alone), i mean anyone would be influenced by so many distractions right?  I mean who knows, it might even lead someone to think that they are actually a character out of the bible…oh, um, err forget I said  that one okay Ed, lol….Of course that Ed in Joshua is you just like you said!!Gee, hmm, thats a hard one to follow, but its okay! Like I said,  its not your fault that the bible wasn't enough…um, er, oh who am I kidding, of course it's your fault Ed old boy!!

    Hehe, come on Ed, just giving you a taste of your own medicine….It's all good, you're still the same Ed to me as you always were   :D  :D  :D  :p

    Anyway, like to try again?
    This time examining it a tad closer?
    Hm?

    #320736
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Devolution,

    Great, now that you've attempted to put me on the stool – will you answer my question?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #320737
    Ed J
    Participant

    Me: over 40 years
    You: ?

    #320738
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Oh oh, is this the answer. I googled it and found this.

    Yes dinosaurs were real. But behemoth and leviathon were not related to the dinosaurs. They are one-of-a-kind supernatural cryptids. God created only one behemoth and one leviathon. They are both male. They were created at the beginning of time and should still be alive today. At the end of time they will be killed for the big feast we will have in Heaven.
    Source(s):
    I got it from a book called “The Other Bible”. It contains books that weren't canonized.

    #320739
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Wikipedia says this:

    Job 40:15-24 describes Behemoth, and then the sea-monster Leviathan, to demonstrate to Job the futility of questioning God, who alone has created these beings and who alone can capture them.[2] Both beasts are chaos monsters destroyed by the deity at the time of creation, although such a conflict is not found in the creation account.[3]
    Leviathan is identified figuratively with both the primeval sea (Job 3:8, Psalms 74:13) and in apocalyptic literature – describing the end-time – as that adversary, the Devil, from before creation who will finally be defeated. In the divine speeches in Job, Behemoth and Leviathan may both be seen as composite and mythical creatures with enormous strength, which humans like Job could not hope to control. But both are reduced to the status of divine pets, with rings through their noses and Leviathan on a leash.[4]…………..

    In Jewish apocrypha and pseudepigrapha such as the 2nd century BCE Book of Enoch, Behemoth is the primal unconquerable monster of the land, as Leviathan is the primal monster of the waters of the sea and Ziz the primordial monster of the sky. In the 2nd century BCE 1 Enoch Leviathan lives in “the Abyss”, while Behemoth the land-monster lives in an invisible desert east of the Garden of Eden (1 Enoch 60:7-8). A Jewish rabbinic legend describes a great battle which will take place between them at the end of time: “…they will interlock with one another and engage in combat, with his horns the Behemoth will gore with strength, the fish [Leviathan] will leap to meet him with his fins, with power. Their Creator will approach them with his mighty sword [and slay them both].” Then, “from the beautiful skin of the Leviathan, God will construct canopies to shelter the righteous, who will eat the meat of the Behemoth and the Leviathan amid great joy and merriment.” (Artscroll siddur, p. 719).

    #320740
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,22:15)
    Hi Devolution,

    Great, now that you've attempted to put me on the stool – will you answer my question?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,

    Lol, how long have I been reading?
    Hmm, do you mean the bible?

    #320741
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Okay I give up. What does it mean.

    #320742
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I think EdJ believes that we preexisted as angels, so we could have been reading the Old Testament thousands of years ago.

    #320743
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 17 2012,22:23)
    Wikipedia says this:

    Job 40:15-24 describes Behemoth, and then the sea-monster Leviathan, to demonstrate to Job the futility of questioning God, who alone has created these beings and who alone can capture them.[2] Both beasts are chaos monsters destroyed by the deity at the time of creation, although such a conflict is not found in the creation account.[3]
    Leviathan is identified figuratively with both the primeval sea (Job 3:8, Psalms 74:13) and in apocalyptic literature – describing the end-time – as that adversary, the Devil, from before creation who will finally be defeated. In the divine speeches in Job, Behemoth and Leviathan may both be seen as composite and mythical creatures with enormous strength, which humans like Job could not hope to control. But both are reduced to the status of divine pets, with rings through their noses and Leviathan on a leash.[4]…………..

    In Jewish apocrypha and pseudepigrapha such as the 2nd century BCE Book of Enoch, Behemoth is the primal unconquerable monster of the land, as Leviathan is the primal monster of the waters of the sea and Ziz the primordial monster of the sky. In the 2nd century BCE 1 Enoch Leviathan lives in “the Abyss”, while Behemoth the land-monster lives in an invisible desert east of the Garden of Eden (1 Enoch 60:7-8). A Jewish rabbinic legend describes a great battle which will take place between them at the end of time: “…they will interlock with one another and engage in combat, with his horns the Behemoth will gore with strength, the fish [Leviathan] will leap to meet him with his fins, with power. Their Creator will approach them with his mighty sword [and slay them both].” Then, “from the beautiful skin of the Leviathan, God will construct canopies to shelter the righteous, who will eat the meat of the Behemoth and the Leviathan amid great joy and merriment.” (Artscroll siddur, p. 719).


    Hi T8,

    So what do you think in your own words and by your own opinion, is Isaiah 27:1 speaking about?

    #320744
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 17 2012,22:23)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,22:15)
    Hi Devolution,

    Great, now that you've attempted to put me on the stool – will you answer my question?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Ed,

    Lol, how long have I been reading?
    Hmm, do you mean the bible?


    Hi Devolution, is this a dodge?

    I've been studying “The Bible”(63) for over 40 years; how about you?

    Me: over 40 years
    You:  ?      <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #320745
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 17 2012,22:24)
    Okay I give up. What does it mean.


    Oops,

    Posted to you before I saw this T8.

    Will be glad to explain it after I torture Ed a little more! Hehe, only joking!
    Um, I'd like to wait and see other opinions first before saying…I'm just really interested to see what might come up first.
    But I will eventually explain my position on it.

    Cheers.

    #320746
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 17 2012,22:25)
    I think EdJ believes that we preexisted as angels, so we could have been reading the Old Testament thousands of years ago.


    Really?

    Oh boy! I didn't know that!
    Lol, good ol Ed, sure get our money's worth from him don't we!

    Love you Ed.

    #320747
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 17 2012,22:37)

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 17 2012,22:25)
    I think EdJ believes that we preexisted as angels, so we could have been reading the Old Testament thousands of years ago.


    Really?

    Oh boy! I didn't know that!
    Lol, good ol Ed, sure get our money's worth from him don't we!

    Love you Ed.


    Hi Devolution, is this yet another dodge?

    Me: over 40 years
    You:  ?      <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #320748
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,22:29)

    Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 17 2012,22:23)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,22:15)
    Hi Devolution,

    Great, now that you've attempted to put me on the stool – will you answer my question?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Ed,

    Lol, how long have I been reading?
    Hmm, do you mean the bible?


    Hi Devolution, is this a dodge?

    I've been studying “The Bible”(63) for over 40 years; how about you?

    Me: over 40 years
    You:  ?      <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    Oh Ed,

    It's okay!
    Look, you are obviously more learned than me, so I humbly ask that you break down Isaiah 27:1 for me with your own words of discernment so I too can understand what it is saying and exactly where it fits/links within the scriptures…

    Cheers Eddy.

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