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- May 27, 2006 at 9:20 pm#14245NickHassanParticipant
Hi,
I think the role of Jesus Christ is better understood if we search out his name-Arm of the Lord-especially shown in Isaiah.Is 40.9
“'Here is your God!'
Behold the Lord God will come with might, with His Arm ruling for Him”Who is that Arm?
Look also at
Is30.30,40.11,44.12,48.14,[51.5?saints]51.9,52.10,53.1,59.16,62.8,63.5,63.12, Jer 21.5,27.45,32.17,Ez 4.7,20.33,Lk 1.51,Jn 12.38,May 27, 2006 at 10:50 pm#14246NickHassanParticipantps,
Or perhaps as the finger of God is the Spirit, the Arm is the Spirit too, in Christ? What do others think?May 28, 2006 at 4:50 am#14255davidParticipantThe ‘arm that is ruling for him’ in Isaiah 40:10 is his Son, Jesus Christ, whom Jehovah has installed upon his heavenly throne.
The Hebrew and Greek terms for “arm” (zeroh´a`; bra·khi´on) are often used figuratively in the Bible to represent the ability to exert strength or power. (Ge 49:24, ftn; Job 22:8, ftn; compare Lu 1:51.)
The “arm” of Jehovah God is immeasurably powerful, able to do marvelous creative works. (Jer 27:5; 32:17)
By his “arm” Jehovah also rules (Isa 40:10; Eze 20:33),
saves those in distress (Ps 44:3; Isa 52:10),
delivers his people (Ex 6:6; Isa 63:12; Ac 13:17),
supports and cares for them (De 33:27; Isa 40:11; Ho 11:3),
judges (Isa 51:5),
and scatters his enemies (Ps 89:10; Lu 1:51).Breaking the arm represents shattering one’s might. (Job 38:15; Ps 10:15; Jer 48:25)
Through Jesus Christ, clothed with authority and power and acting as Judge and Executioner, Jehovah manifests His might, represented by His “arm.”—Isa 53:1; Joh 12:37, 38.david
May 30, 2006 at 7:36 pm#14370NickHassanParticipantHi,
What do others think? Is it not the God's Spirit in Christ that achieves all the works of Christ? Did Christ not ascribe all initiative and all works, and all things done through him, and the glory too, to the Father?April 4, 2007 at 9:21 am#47447NickHassanParticipanttopical
May 18, 2007 at 6:16 am#52495NickHassanParticipanttopical
May 18, 2007 at 6:30 am#52496Not3in1ParticipantOh! Excellent! Thanks for bringing this thread up again. I was just chatting with GW or WJ about the “Arm” of the Lord. This thread will come in handy.
March 31, 2008 at 4:09 am#85481NickHassanParticipantHi LU,
A thread of interest for you.April 5, 2008 at 9:49 am#86062LightenupParticipantHi Nick,
You are right, I just noticed this thread. I think that the arm of the Lord can be referring to the Son of God-Jesus. Is it always referring to Him or maybe Moses or Israel, or others that are carrying out the LORD's work? What do you think?Isa 51:8-11
9 Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD;
Awake as in the days of old, the generations of long ago.
Was it not You who cut Rahab in pieces,
Who pierced the dragon?
10 Was it not You who dried up the sea,
The waters of the great deep;
Who made the depths of the sea a pathway
For the redeemed to cross over?
11 So the ransomed of the LORD will return
And come with joyful shouting to Zion,
And everlasting joy will be on their heads.
They will obtain gladness and joy,
NASUJohn 12:36-43
These things Jesus spoke, and He went away and hid Himself from them. 37 But though He had performed so many signs before them, yet they were not believing in Him. 38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet which he spoke: “LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT? AND TO WHOM HAS THE ARM OF THE LORD BEEN REVEALED?” 39 For this reason they could not believe, for Isaiah said again, 40 “HE HAS BLINDED THEIR EYES AND HE HARDENED THEIR HEART, SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND PERCEIVE WITH THEIR HEART, AND BE CONVERTED AND I HEAL THEM.” 41 These things Isaiah said because he saw His glory, and he spoke of Him. 42 Nevertheless many even of the rulers believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they were not confessing Him, for fear that they would be put out of the synagogue; 43 for they loved the approval of men rather than the approval of God.
NASUBlessings!
April 5, 2008 at 10:23 am#86068NickHassanParticipantHi LU,
I see what you mean.
Could it be the Spirit of God?
The Spirit is referred to in scripture as the finger of God.Luke 11:20
“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.cf
Mt12
28″But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.April 6, 2008 at 5:03 am#86126LightenupParticipantHi Nick,
We know that the Holy Spirit enables us and others to show the power of God. Without the enabling of the Holy Spirit we are powerless. So, I would say that the Spirit of God enables the worker of God, His “arm” in any particular situation, (whether it be Moses, or the Son, or us) to show the power of God.Rom 15:17-19
17 Therefore in Christ Jesus I have found reason for boasting in things pertaining to God. 18 For I will not presume to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me, resulting in the obedience of the Gentiles by word and deed, 19 in the power of signs and wonders, in the power of the Spirit…
NASUG'nite all and God bless!
April 6, 2008 at 5:22 am#86128seek and you will findParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2006,07:36) Hi,
What do others think? Is it not the God's Spirit in Christ that achieves all the works of Christ? Did Christ not ascribe all initiative and all works, and all things done through him, and the glory too, to the Father?
Nick I believe it is only by God's Holy Spirit that we understand what is of God. It also unites us to Jesus Christ and the Father, and every Brother and Sister that has been baptized and has received the Holy Spirit. By God' Holy Spirit we will be made perfect. Let the mind that is in Christ Jesus be in you. So God can be all in all in the end. Then and only then will we have peace and joy and no more sorrow and no more pain.( I will enjoy that) Eye hath not seen and ear hath not heard prepared for them that Love Me. To that day I am every day looking forward to.
Peace and Love always Mrs.October 5, 2008 at 5:19 am#109762NickHassanParticipantFor LU and MF
October 5, 2008 at 5:25 am#109764LightenupParticipantHi Nick,
Thanks for bumping the topic. It seems that this keeps coming up.
LUMarch 22, 2010 at 9:40 pm#184303NickHassanParticipantHi,
YAHSHUA is the arm of God
God saves.March 23, 2010 at 5:24 am#184356kerwinParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2008,17:23) Hi LU,
I see what you mean.
Could it be the Spirit of God?
The Spirit is referred to in scripture as the finger of God.Luke 11:20
“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.cf
Mt12
28″But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Nice inference!March 23, 2010 at 5:40 am#184360NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
These are parallel verses.
But you do not accept what they show?March 23, 2010 at 5:52 am#184362kerwinParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,12:40) Hi KW,
These are parallel verses.
But you do not accept what they show?
You concluded from the evidence or premises which means you infered.I am not disagreeing that your inference is correct though it is perhaps presumptuous as the evidence you present is limited.
March 23, 2010 at 5:53 am#184363ElizabethParticipantIsa 40:10 Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
I agree with those who have already said so; the “arm” refers to Jesus Christ.
Jesus comes with a strong hand, he will rule with a rod of iron; that does not mean by force, it means no rules will be bend.
His reward for the saints are with him, their crowns.
His work, to restore the world to paradise again is before him.Georg
March 23, 2010 at 4:32 pm#184457kerwinParticipantTo all,
God has put my mind to searching out this matter and I conclude the arm of the Lord is the arm of God which manifests in different ways. This would be equivalent to the arm of the law which is power or might of the law. The Holy Spirit and Jesus are both manifestation of the might of God but so was Nebuchadnezzar in his time.
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