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- February 10, 2015 at 10:26 pm#789001davidHParticipant
5 FOLD MINISTRY
It seems few people relatively speaking even know how the 5 fold ministry is supposed to work. The name on most church directories to show whos in charge is the pastor. He or she is the ‘boss’.. And usually their word is ‘law’ This is far from the way it is supposed to be.
Be cause we are not perfect, God has made it so that he confirms his word in at least 3 people. Eph 4:11-16 explains how the 5 offices are used to let the church grow into the mature bride. The first 2 are, in the new testament, meant to be nearly invisible as in, in humility, going about their God given tasks with hardly any recognition as dying to self means the difference to how well the job is completed. The next office of evangelist needs to be in humility as do all 5.
Each office can act in any office below them on this list in verse 11 The pastor can be a teacher, the evangelist can be pastor or teacher and so on. These offices are to seek of God as to where the church is to go and come together and direct the church hence each office should be in dying to self. To bring the church to perfection.
In today’s Christian system ,the above God appointed way of perfecting the church has been undermined by satan ,using mans vanity and pride. While the Apostle and Prophet go about their god given tasks in humility, Satan has used the more visible offices to give the impression that the offices of apostle and prophet have ceased, due to the very fact that their jobs are done in humility. Therefore these more visible offices have become filled by career people that have no idea of the spirit. Thus keeping the lie that the 2 offices have ceased to exist since the death of the Apostles in the first century. Therefore no church runs as god intends whiles the pastor remains the ‘boss’
And most pew sitters will remain babes in Christ, if being saved at all.
April 11, 2015 at 8:50 pm#793630Ed JParticipant5 FOLD MINISTRY
It seems few people relatively speaking even know how the 5 fold ministry is supposed to work.
Hi David H,
Good topic, I wonder why nobody has posted in it?
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODApril 11, 2015 at 8:56 pm#793632NickHassanParticipantHi davidl.
Best to lay the right foundation first.
A group of people with a self appointed leader does not resemble the Body of Christ
April 11, 2015 at 9:08 pm#793633NickHassanParticipantHi Davidl,
The early church was founded on preaching the gospel and then baptising those who had been cut to the heart in water, and at some stage arranging hands to be laid on them for them to receive the Spirit. The they met in people’s houses and prayed for guidance and grace and shared the bread and wine as instructed.
God did the work among them and built them up in gifts and fruit and gave them servants to lead them.
So it was not BASED ON buildings or denominational structures or human authorities.
April 11, 2015 at 9:23 pm#793636NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Wolves soon savaged the flock and human institutions with formulas and rituals, false teachers and leaders, became all that was visible to the world of the original work of Jesus and the apostles. The Holy Spirit’s works vanished with faith.
These structures have become strong and dominating political forces though stability has not been a feature.
But the promises and directions of God have never altered.
April 13, 2015 at 8:52 pm#793945davidHParticipantthese denominations wether they be protestant or catholic, have replaced the holiness set out by jesus to their own man made rules, How much of an abomination would that be to God who sent His son so that the Holy Spirit could be poured out, to be replaced by a set of rules created by the created being,!!!!
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