4 Horses – 4 Chariots

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  • #332495
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,04:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,14:21)
    He says:

    White:  Catholicism
    Red:      Communism
    Black:   Capitalism
    Green:   Muslimism

    When we look at Zech, we see:
    Zech 6:6 The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country;
    and the white horses go forth after them; (Zech 6:8 Behold, these (Catholicism & Capitalism)
    that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.) (Christianity goes with them)

    (Zech 6:6) and the grisled horses (Green/Muslimism) go forth toward the south country.
    The south country would no doubt be “Africa”. (Revelation 6:8 And power was given
    unto them over the fourth part of the earth (Muslim), to kill with sword, and with
    hunger (Africa), and with death (Jihad) , and with the beasts of the earth.)
    It does match what has happened in Historical context, has it not?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi T8, and All,

    I have studied this many times and have investigated the colors,
    I have but missed the obvious connection that is portrayed in the vid.

        “in the fourth chariot grizzled and bay horses.” (Zech 6:3)

    Grizzled horses: are green horses
    and Bay horses: are red horses

    Let's see if any of the common English translations “got this right”, as T8 would say.
    Some of these perversions don't even mention the “Bay horses”.


    (Note: I highlighted which one is the “AKJV Bible”)

    New International Version (©1984)
    and the fourth dappled–all of them powerful.

    New Living Translation (©2007)
    and the fourth by powerful dappled-gray horses.

    English Standard Version (©2001)
    and the fourth chariot dappled horses—all of them strong.

    New American Standard Bible (©1995)
    and with the fourth chariot strong dappled horses.

    Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
    and the fourth chariot dappled horses–all strong horses.

    International Standard Version (©2012)
    Attached to the fourth chariot were speckled horses and gray horses.

    Authorized King James Version of the Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
    and in the fourth chariot grizzled(GREEN) and bay(RED) horses.

    GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
    And the fourth had strong, spotted horses.

    King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
    and before the fourth chariot dappled horses – strong steeds.

    American King James Version
    and in the fourth chariot spotted and bay horses.

    American Standard Version
    and in the fourth chariot grizzled strong horses.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    and in the fourth chariot grisled horses, and strong ones.

    Darby Bible Translation
    and in the fourth chariot grisled, strong horses.

    English Revised Version
    and in the fourth chariot grisled bay horses.

    Webster's Bible Translation
    and in the fourth chariot grizzled and bay horses.

    World English Bible
    and in the fourth chariot dappled horses, all of them powerful.

    Young's Literal Translation
    and in the fourth chariot strong grisled horses.


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    You failed to explain the two mountains of brass?

    wakeup.

    #332575
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    The mountains represent the red color as of the throat of a serpent.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #333055
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,12:39)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The mountains represent the red color as of the throat of a serpent.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    How did you come to that conclusion?
    BY your numbers?

    THE 4 SPIRITS OF GOD COMING OUT
    OF THE SERPENTS MOUTH?
    HOW BAZAR.

    wakeup.

    #333069
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,16:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,12:39)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The mountains represent the red color as of the throat of a serpent.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDj.

    How did you come to that conclusion?
    BY your numbers?

    THE 4 SPIRITS OF GOD COMING OUT
    OF THE SERPENTS MOUTH?
    HOW BAZAR.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I know you don't like going first,
    SO NOW it is your turn to answer.      …What say you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #333079
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,07:05)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2013,20:30)
    And it also seemed ironic that Ed J promotes this video and yet the video clearly says that the AKJV translates Green Horse incorrectly and says, “Pale Horse”.


    Hi T8,

    Have you not considered that YHVH may have chosen the
    “AKJV Bible” translators to choose pale for a reason?

    And thanks for repenting my dear brother!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    You mean have I considered that YHVH may have chosen the
    “AKJV Bible” translators to choose pale for a reason instead of green which it is?

    And it is hilarious that you say that God chose the Bible translators to say it that way. It's as if, God said, right I am going to write the correct bible in the year 1611. It will be the only Word of God and it will be in English. To prove this is the only correct version, I will incorporate sophisticated Gematria based on a new English number system where letters equal units that progress in ones.

    Further I will send my Gematria Prophet Ed J to the world to demonstrate this. He will have the truth and no one else will be like him.

    All who listen to him will understand. Those that do not ignore God's only true version of the Bible and do so to their own peril.

    That is the story so far isn't it Ed?

    #333082
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2013,17:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,07:05)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2013,20:30)
    And it also seemed ironic that Ed J promotes this video and yet the video clearly says that the AKJV translates Green Horse incorrectly and says, “Pale Horse”.


    Hi T8,

    Have you not considered that YHVH may have chosen the
    “AKJV Bible” translators to choose pale for a reason?

    And thanks for repenting my dear brother!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    You mean have I considered that YHVH may have chosen the
    “AKJV Bible” translators to choose pale for a reason instead of green which it is?

    And it is hilarious that you say that God chose the Bible translators to say it that way. It's as if, God said, right I am going to write the correct bible in the year 1611. It will be the only Word of God and it will be in English. To prove this is the only correct version, I will incorporate sophisticated Gematria based on a new English number system where letters equal units that progress in ones.

    Further I will send my Gematria Prophet Ed J to the world to demonstrate this. He will have the truth and no one else will be like him.

    All who listen to him will understand. Those that do not ignore God's only true version of the Bible and do so to their own peril.

    That is the story so far isn't it Ed?


    Kinda like the days of Noah, huh?

    #333085
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Yeah right. Just like that.
    Are you building a secret boat that no one knows about.

    #333099
    Ed J
    Participant

    T8 said:

    Quote
    I will incorporate sophisticated Gematria


    The Number 63:


    Wherever opportunity knocks:

                               “The Ark”(63) = “YHVH”(63)

    Fact#10. GOD is written 4473 (71 x 63)
                times in the AKJV Bible

             The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63.
             That phrase…   is supported by these 10 FACTS.  (Link)

    Fact #1. JEHOVAH is First mentioned (in singular form) in the “AKJV Bible” in Exodus 6:3.
    Fact #2. “The Bible” has a value of 63 matching “YHVH”, which also has a value of 63.
    Fact #3. The phonetic spelling of [אלהים] (God in Hebrew) is “ĔL-ō-Hêêm”, also is 63.
    Fact #4. Ex 6:3 I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name
    of
    God Almighty (בְּאֵל שַׁדָּי), but by my name JEHOVAH was I(YHVH) not known to them.
    The English rendering of [בְּאֵל שַׁדָּי], which is “El Shaddia”, also has a Gematria value of 63.
    Fact #5. The Greek word for “Testament” is [διαθήκη], which is spelled “diathéké” totals 63.
    Fact #6. The Theomatic Encryption of [47+69+73 = 63 x 3] illustrates YHVH=63 as a Trinity.
    Isaiah(47) Jehovah’s Salvation, Jeremiah(69) Jehovah is High, Ezekiel(73) EL(God) will strengthen.
    Fact #7. At 6,300 feet above sea level, high in the mountains of Ararat, “The Ark”(63) came to rest.
    Fact #8. “The Ark” of the covenant: The Greek word for covenant is [διαθήκη], spelled “diathéké”(63).    
    Fact #9. Jesus said we should address God as our “Father”: the Hebrew word לאביך, for Father, equals 63.
    Fact #10. The total number of times GOD is written in the AKJV Bible is 4473. Theomatic encryption: 71 x 63.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #333105
    Wakeup
    Participant

    EDJ.

    Fisherman dont know how to add up and multiply numbers,are they exempt from knowing the truth?

    wakeup.

    #333115
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,12:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,08:58)
    EDJ.

    You failed to explain the two mountains of brass?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    The mountains represent the red color as of the throat of a serpent.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you going to answer this question,
    or just criticize what you don't understand?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #333116
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,22:20)
    EDJ.

    Fisherman dont know how to add up and multiply numbers,are they exempt from knowing the truth?

    wakeup.


    And Jesus didn't have access to the AKJV either.

    #333119
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,21:20)
    EDJ.

    Fisherman dont know how to add up and multiply numbers,are they exempt from knowing the truth?

    wakeup.

    Hi Ed,
    you should listen, because this is true.

    #333156
    Ed J
    Participant

    Looking into the 4 Horses – 4 Chariots,  and comparing Rev.6:2-8  to Zech.6:2-8


    OK, back to the topic.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #335094
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2013,04:30)
    Looking into the 4 Horses – 4 Chariots,  and comparing Rev.6:2-8  to Zech.6:2-8


    OK, back to the topic.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    Not correct.

    Not four horses:

    Zechariah 6:1 And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.
    4 CHARIOTS,COMING OUT FROM BETWEEN 2 MOUNTAINS OF BRASS.??

    Zechariah 6:2 In the first chariot were *RED HORSES*; and in the second chariot *BLACK HORSES*;

    Zechariah 6:3 And in the third chariot *WHITE HORSES*; and in the fourth chariot *GRISLED AND BAY HORSES*.

    4 CHARIOTS AND 8 HORSES.

    Zechariah 6:4 Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord?

    Zechariah 6:5 And the angel answered and said unto me, THESE ARE THE FOUR SPIRITS OF THE HEAVENS, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.

    wakeup.

    #335506
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2013,08:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2013,04:30)
    Looking into the 4 Horses – 4 Chariots,  and comparing Rev.6:2-8  to Zech.6:2-8


    OK, back to the topic.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    Not correct.

    Not four horses:

    Zechariah 6:1   And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.
    4 CHARIOTS,COMING OUT FROM BETWEEN 2 MOUNTAINS OF BRASS.??

     Zechariah 6:2   In the first chariot were *RED HORSES*; and in the second chariot *BLACK HORSES*;

     Zechariah 6:3   And in the third chariot *WHITE HORSES*; and in the fourth chariot *GRISLED AND BAY HORSES*.

    4 CHARIOTS AND 8 HORSES.

     Zechariah 6:4   Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord?

     Zechariah 6:5   And the angel answered and said unto me, THESE ARE THE FOUR SPIRITS OF THE HEAVENS, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.

    wakeup.


    What say you Ed?

    #335535
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2013,20:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,22:20)
    EDJ.

    Fisherman dont know how to add up and multiply numbers,are they exempt from knowing the truth?

    wakeup.


    And Jesus didn't have access to the AKJV either.


    T8.

    Jesus didnot need the bible; he is the bible.

    If God wanted us a bible that can be trusted he would have given us the earliest bible translations.
    Not the latest,because he knows that satan will come and corrupt the latest translations.

    This is commonsense.
    The later the translations;the worse it gets.
    Not the better.

    So far I have not found any contradictions in the kjv.
    And the lingo is unique.
    I really treasure the kjv.There is another one called the Tindale version.

    wakeup.

    #336412
    keras
    Participant

    I have read this thread and I would just like to add that Jesus Himself confirms that the 4 horsemen as described in Rev. 6:1-8, Zech. 1:8-11 and Zech 6:1-8, have been released to their tasks in ancient times. Because, in Matthew 23:35 He says how the guilt of the blood of all the saints since Abel and Zechariah will fall onto those hypocritical leaders. This is the fifth seal, therefore the next event we can expect will be the Sixth seal, the great Day of the Lord's wrath.
    Anyway Zechariah clearly says the 4 horsemen/chariots WERE released, obvious by the wars, famines, diseases, etc. the world has and continues to experience.

    #336417
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Keras.

    It is true that the four spirits have been released long time ago,and that we can observe the spirits of the world of the north ,east,south,and west.,today.

    The first trumpet has not sound yet,bacause the number of the beast has not been enforced yet. Soon it will sound.

    Revelation 16:2 And the *FIRST* went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the *MARK OF THE BEAST*, and upon them which worshipped his image.

    As you can see the mark is already in existence,during the first trumpet.

    wakeup.

    #336442
    keras
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 21 2013,14:41)
    Keras.

    It is true that the four spirits have been released long time ago,and that we can observe the spirits of the world of the north ,east,south,and west.,today.

    The first trumpet has not sound yet,bacause the number of the beast has not been enforced yet. Soon it will sound.

    Revelation 16:2   And the *FIRST* went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the *MARK OF THE BEAST*, and upon them which worshipped his image.

    As you can see the mark is already in existence,during the first trumpet.

    wakeup.


    Thanks wakeup, We are in agreement that the mark will be upon all who worship the beast at the first trumpet.
    But what is missed by most, is the time gap between the Sixth seal and the first trumpet; namely the Seventh seal. This is ' about a half hour of heavenly time'. Specifically time as in heaven. We are told twice – Psalm 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8, that 1 day in heaven is equivilent to 1000 years on earth. Therefore a half hour calculates to 20 years for us and this time is about right for what is prophesied to take place AFTER the Sixth seal – the Great and terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. From the state of the world today and prophesy, this event is imminent!

    #336470
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (keras @ Feb. 22 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 21 2013,14:41)
    Keras.

    It is true that the four spirits have been released long time ago,and that we can observe the spirits of the world of the north ,east,south,and west.,today.

    The first trumpet has not sound yet,bacause the number of the beast has not been enforced yet. Soon it will sound.

    Revelation 16:2   And the *FIRST* went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the *MARK OF THE BEAST*, and upon them which worshipped his image.

    As you can see the mark is already in existence,during the first trumpet.

    wakeup.


    Thanks wakeup, We are in agreement that the mark will be upon all who worship the beast at the first trumpet.
    But what is missed by most, is the time gap between the Sixth seal and the first trumpet; namely the Seventh seal. This is ' about a half hour of heavenly time'. Specifically time as in heaven. We are told twice – Psalm 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8, that 1 day in heaven is equivilent to 1000 years on earth. Therefore a half hour calculates to 20 years for us and this time is about right for what is prophesied to take place AFTER the Sixth seal – the Great and terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. From the state of the world today and prophesy, this event is imminent!


    Keras.

    1.The white horse,with bow,no arrow.
    This is when the christian religion is spread out in all the earth by conquering and by bribes.The conquistadors,spreading catholicism. And Martin Luther,the prostestantism.

    2.The red horse GIVEN *A GREAT SWORD*.
    This is the first and second world war.
    The great sword meaning great weapons.
    Bombs and cannons.No more bows and arrows.

    3.The black horse is the femine,and dont hurt the oil and the wine. The oil is the worlds life blood;they go to war for it. The wine is the worlds religions;dont hurt them.
    All are the same; dont put down each others religion ,causing trouble.We all worship the same god.

    4. The pale horse is death.The rider is death.
    This is when the false prophet is riding,and he will starve the prople with his mark. Specially the true christians,he hates.

    5.All the saints killed in the past,are told to wait *UNTILL THEIR FELLOW BROTHERS ALSO WILL BE KILLED*.
    This will happen during the reign of the false prophet.

    6. Showing us the signs of the coming.
    Not the coming it self. 7 trumpets are to sound,before the coming.

    7. The false prohet will rule the world; his mark will be enforced. Then the first angel will sound.(rev.16:2).
    This will be soon.

    Thank you Keras.

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