The 3 Feasts that we MUST attend

Hi Ed J,

ME prior: So your belief is that God sent a pre-existing anointed spirit son down to earth who could do nothing of himself, and we call him the Bread from heaven as he was born in Bethlehem the house of bread?

YOU: Pretty good you pay attention. Gene does not seem to be able to do that,
maybe he really doesn’t have a “Free Will” like he keeps telling us?

ME: So a few things that puzzle me hear,

Not sure why you chose to bad mouth Gene to me, instead of sticking with the topic at hand and explaining more your belief as it pertain specifically to my statement.

What was the point of sending down an anointed spirit son if he could do nothing of himself?

So your basically saying to me that there is really no significance in Jesus calling himself the Bread from heaven, it’s just a reference to him because of the place of his birth??

Hi Ed J,

YOU:

Hi Jodi,

Jesus called himself “the bread from heaven” because he is “the bread from heaven”

Jesus said: “I came out from God” (John 16:27)
and: “I came down from heaven” (John 6:38, 6:42)

But you don’t believe what Jesus said.

ME: I do believe exactly what Jesus said as I have spoken directly about those passages adding other passages to give further support for my stance. 

Do you believe what God said?

Where first there is a son of David and God promised He would be a Father unto this son of David? (1 Chronicles 17:11-13)

As I see it you say something different, that God was already a Father having a son who this son of God then becomes a son of David.

“he SHALL BE my Son” the “he” here IS THE SON OF DAVID, the son of David exists first and THEN God becomes a Father unto “him”. The “he” is NOT YET A SON, he will be God’s Son. This passage does NOT say, my Son shall be a son of David.

What we are told in 1 Chronicles 17, Psalm 8,  and also what we are told in Isaiah 11 and 61, where FIRST you have a son of Jesse and then God anoints him of His Spirit making him into the anointed (Christos/Christ) sending him out into the world, NEEDS TO BE APPLIED to all other scriptures, otherwise you are going to interpret many passages falsely. 

 YES,   Jesus, the human who God had promised that He would be mindful of and visit, came out from God, Luke 4: 18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

YES,   Jesus came down from heaven, the promised Son of Man came down from heaven.

READ EJ and APPLY, 

John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Apply Luke 4:18-19, the anointed of God’s Spirit at the river Jordan was SENT. 

Apply Acts 13:23 -24 Jesus our savior came AFTER the baptism John preached.

Jesus saying that he as the Son of Man came down from heaven, isn’t him saying he pre-existed, he is saying that he came and was sent directly down from heaven/FROM GOD.

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

You say the Spirit of Christ came down, JESUS SAYS HE AS THE SON OF MAN CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN. 

Jesus wasn’t just any Son of Man he was the Son of Man WHO, John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 

and apply that verse also with Luke 4:18-19

So we have a Son of Man, specifically the promised Son of the man David who God gives His Spirit unto him without measure, that is a man who has been begotten of the Spirit of God. Prophecy fulfilled of God becoming a Father unto David’s son, where God would not take His goodness away from him!! God declared at the moment the Spirit came upon Jesus without measure that THIS was His Son, and we read after John 3:34 of whom received the Spirit without measure that “35 the Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.”

Good Morning Ed J,

You did not respond to my post on July 9^th at 9:11 #864871

I have edited that post a bit in hopes to give a clearer understanding, where I am asking you to read MORE of Micah 5 and compare it with other passages that it directly relates to so that you can apply proper context to verse 2.

Deut 18: 15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

Isaiah 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them. 11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?..17 O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? Return for thy servants’ sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.

Deut 32:7 Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations: ask thy father, and he will shew thee; thy elders, and they will tell thee.8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the LORD’S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance. 

Micah 7:20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old.

forth –Yatsa‘ to go out, come out, exit, go forth

forth -Mowtsa’ah , origin, place of going out from

Micah 5:2 And thou, Beth-Lehem Ephratah, Little to be among the chiefs of Judah! From thee to Me he cometh forth to be ruler in Israel, And his comings forth are of old, From the days of antiquity. 3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel. 4 And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth. 5 And this man shall be the peace…

Ed J, the place Jesus comes out from is Israel, people to whom are of ancient of days, and people who God from ancient of days He gave promises to, promises that He had declared from the beginning.  In those promises from ancient of days, was a promise of a man who would come forth OUT OF ISRAEL to be their savior.

Compare Micah 5 with Isaiah 46, 

Isaiah 46:3 Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: 4 And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you. 5 To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like? 6 They lavish gold out of the bag, and weigh silver in the balance, and hire a goldsmith; and he maketh it a god: they fall down, yea, they worship. 7 They bear him upon the shoulder, they carry him, and set him in his place, and he standeth; from his place shall he not remove: yea, one shall cry unto him, yet can he not answer, nor save him out of his trouble. 8 Remember this, and shew yourselves men: bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors. 9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. 12 Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness: 13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.

Hi Ed J,

YOU:

Jodi,

I don’t have time to unpack your 500 word essays. But if you of your own
“FreeWill” will answer my questions maybe we can reach a consensus

ME: I condensed my previous post, where I only gave you around 60 words of my own, tying the scriptures I gave you together that I specifically asked you to read. 

Are you just afraid to read passages that support my stance or what??????

Hi Ed J,

YOU: The bible says over and over Jesus was God’s only-begotten son – you clearly don’t understand what that means.

ME: We are given 4 times the words “only begotten Son” in scripture. We likewise read that Jesus is a human or a son of a human around 100 times.

Jesus of Nazareth, the son of David, is he who is called God’s “only begotten Son”, and it’s not because he pre-existed as such and then came down into Mary’s womb.

Jesus isn’t called an “only begotten Son” because he exists a ONE OF A KIND being. 

Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Acts 2:22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. 23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus: 24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.

29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. 30 But God raised him from the dead: 31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people. 32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, 33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, THIS DAY have I BEGOTTEN thee. 34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.

Ed J, in the above you have a son of David a man whose flesh was not allowed to see decay, he was instead raised to life where it is said he received the promised Holy Spirit, where it is said on that day this son of David was begotten by God. 

Sound familiar??

10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: 11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

Hi Ed J,

Romans 8 should make it clear to you, especially when applied to Ezekiel 36, and knowing that Paul tells you in Romans 1 that Jesus is the son of David and is God’s Son according to the Spirit, which aligns with God promising David that He would be a Father unto David’s son.

We are told that the Spirit bears witness to our spirit that we are children of God. 

We are told that those who are LED BY the Spirit of God are the Sons of God. 

We are told that we are heirs of God, joint heirs with Christ (anointed).

We are told that we are to be made into the image of His Son that he might be a firstborn among many brethren. 

Is it truly not clear to you that Romans 8 tells you exactly how it is that Jesus is a Son of God, and would have been God’s only begotten Son prior to his death, but is now a begotten Son of many according to His resurrection from the dead when he received the promised Holy Spirit and was said to on that day had been begotten by God?

Seriously come on now!! If we are to be made in the image of His Son and it is said that we are Sons according to being LED by the Spirit, than that is exactly how Jesus is likewise a Son of God. 

Jesus WAS the only mortal man to whom God visited and made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death. He was the only mortal man to have received the Spirit not by measure was he not?? You don’t consider that as someone being begotten of the Spirit??

In Isaiah, the son of Jesse was promised to be called to righteousness where God would direct all his ways for to deliver captives. If God is calling him to righteousness and directing all his ways that directly equates him to thus becoming a Son of God. 

Jesus does not exist as some one of a kind being, he existed on earth as a human begotten of God’s Spirit without measure, and then he was raised being begotten of the Holy Spirit according to a promise, made into the first begotten of the dead, a firstborn of many brethren.