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Hi Ed J,
Micah 5:2 is about how one from the tribe of Judah was going to come forth, and that coming forth of one from that tribe who would be a ruler, was declared by God from the beginning.
Hi Jodi,
Those words are in none of the bible translations listed on biblehub:
https://biblehub.com/micah/5-2.htm
Are you now trying to change the text by re-writing the bible to fit your narrative?
What lengths will you you go to?
Edj……The Spirit of Christ is , “the anointing Spirit of God”, which is not “always” speaking of the “anointed” man JESUS, but the “Anointing SPIRIT”, from God, which was on “all” God the Fathers prophets, including Jesus . Your making the same mistake “many” make, thinking everytime you see the word “Christ” it is referring to the man Jesus, that causes a lot of confusions in scriptures. While we can reference Jesus as the “anoint-ed, one” of God, Jesus himself is not the “anointing Spirit” , that comes from God the Father which Jesus had on him.
All those who have the Spirit of God in them are also “Christ’s” or anointed ones. Just as Jesus was . where scripture says, “the Spirit of Christ” , was following Isreal in the wilderness, it is not meaning the man Jesus was following them , it is meaning the “anointing” Spirit of God was with Isreal in the wilderness, it was on MOSES, JOSHUA, CALAB, THE SEVENTY ELDERS, etc. CHRISTOS, “THE ANOINTING SPIRIT” OF GOD, WAS GUIDING THEM AND THEREFORE WAS WITH THEM IN THE WILDERNESS. None of that was referring to the man Jesus at all, he did not even exist at that time.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
Edj……The Spirit of Christ is , “the anointing Spirit of God”
“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me,
he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and
we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)Hi Gene,
WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him? Who are the “WE”?
1 The Spirit of God
2 The Spirit of… ?I say 2 is “the Spirit of Christ” – what say you?
Edj……it dosen’t say “the spirit of Jesus”, it say the “the spirit of Christ, meaning the “anointing ” spirit , that is the spirit of God the man Jesus had in him, it is the same Spirit we recieve also. It was the Holy Spirit speaking through the “mouth of the “man” Jesus, all those who have that same Spirit in them are one with Jesus and God the Father.
That scripture was not referencing the Spirit of Jesus, but the Spirit of the anointing or Christos. God shedding his Holy Spirit in us , makes us part of the “we” also.
Remember what Jesus said? , I “in” you and you “in” me, ,also he said,” I am in the Father and he is “in” me”. Those who have not the spirit of the anointing (Christos) are none of his, scripture tells us.
We as Jesus was are the “temples” of the Living God. Why?, because God abides “in” us, as he added “in” Jesus our lord, but better, our brother, in the house hold of the Living God. We are all one through the “Christos” the “anointing Spirit” of the “only” true God.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me,
he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and
we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)Hi Gene,
WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him? Who are the “WE”?
Gene, Quit your propaganda speeches, and just answer my question
Who are the “WE”?
1 The Spirit of God (Jesus’ Father)
2 ?Who is #2 constituting the WE in John 14:23?
just answer my question
Hi Ed J,
Coll 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
YOU:
“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me,
he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and
we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.”WHO ARE THE “WE”?
1 The Spirit of God (Jesus’ Father)
2 ?Who is #2 constituting the WE
ME:
“We” equals,
- The Father and His Spirit of Wisdom
- The Father’s Word that Jesus spoke
YOU:
“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me,
he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and
we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.”WHO ARE THE “WE”?
1 The Spirit of God (Jesus’ Father)
2 ?Who is #2 constituting the WE
ME:
“We” equals,
The Father and His Spirit of Wisdom
The Father’s Word that Jesus spokeHi Jodi,
Interesting, thank you for participating!
No doubt Gene will agree with you now,
as he claims he has no “Free Will” of his own.
cannot seem to answer my questions on his own____________
God bless
Ed JEdj…..The reason Jesus said “we” will come unto him, is because there is “only” one true God, who is Spirit, when a person has the Fathers Spirit “in” Him, as Jesus had, then he becomes “one” with God, Jesus and the Father were “in” Each other. Remember what Jesus said? “the Father is “in” me and I (Jesus ) am in him”, they are one in Spirit, that holds true for all those anointed by God , we are one in God and Jesus and each other, via the Holy Spirit, all accomplished by one Spirit, which is of God, haven’t you ever read where it says “that God may be in all and through all”. The Spirit of God “in” you is, God’s Present “in” you, or haven’t you read what the Apostle Paul said? , what know you not that “your body” is the “temple” of the Living God?
Now if God’s presence is in me and Jesus, and all who have the Spirit of God “in” them , then we all come to those who have not the Spirit, in order for them to recieve the “Spirit of God our Father” in them also.
We are joint worker with God the Father and Jesus, as true Saint’s of God, we are “one” in Spirit. There is not a different Spirit in Jesus then we have recieved, but we including Jesus, are all one in mind and Spirit, one body of believers going out into all the earth serving “One” God, doing his will, and that includes Our lord The son of man Jesus, who also does the Fathers will to.
Edj…..Why are you trying to push Jesus away from us by making him appear different then his human brothers and sisters? Has Satan decieved you into preaching his “doctrine of separation”, also ?
Peace and love to you and yours. ………….gene
Hi Ed J,
YOU:
ME:
Micah 5:2 is about how one from the tribe of Judah was going to come forth, and that coming forth of one from that tribe who would be a ruler, was declared by God from the beginning.YOU: Hi Jodi,
Those words are in none of the bible translations listed on biblehub:
https://biblehub.com/micah/5-2.htm
Are you now trying to change the text by re-writing the bible to fit your narrative?
What lengths will you you go to?
ME:
As I posted,
Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
From the beginning, from ancient times God said that a MAN would come forth to execute His purpose. God spoke from the beginning declaring all things unto the end.
This MAN is of the tribe of Judah, who would be born in Bethlehem and be anointed becoming the Christos.
Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the Spirit of the LORD SHALL rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; 3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
Above is the MAN of the tribe of Judah born in Bethlehem, being CHRIO becoming the CHRISTOS so that he can be sent out to EXECUTE God’s purpose.
VERY CLEAR Ed J, Not only did Isaiah speak long ago of a man who would be sent into the world upon being anointed with God’s Spirit in order to execute God’s purpose, but this coming of this man from the tribe of Judah born in Bethlehem who would me a ruler in Israel was spoken from the beginning from ancient times, God declared things NOT YET DONE (A MAN WHO WOULD COME FORTH UPON BEING ANOINTED AND EXECUTE GOD’S PURPOSE).
Hi Ed J,
YLT Micah 5:2 And thou, Beth-Lehem Ephratah, Little to be among the chiefs of Judah! From thee to Me he cometh forth to be ruler in Israel, And his comings forth are of old, From the days of antiquity.
KJ 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
forth –Yatsa‘ to go out, come out, exit, go forth
forth -Mowtsa’ah , origin, place of going out from
Mowtsa’ah -word origin is Mowtsa, act or place of going out or forth, issue, export, source, spring
Mowtsa- word origin is Yatsa
The PLACE HE COMES OUT FROM is Bethlehem, known as the city of David where David was born and was anointed by Samuel to be king over Israel. He comes out not just from the tribe of Judah but from the house of David specifically where he too like David will be a king over Israel. He is of the seed of David who is of the tribe of Judah who is of the house of Israel, such is his origin that is of old, of ancient of days, generations of a people to whom God made promises to.
Keep reading Micah and then compare it to Isaiah 46,
5:3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel. 4 And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth. 5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.
Isaiah 46:3 Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: 4 And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you. 5 To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like? 6 They lavish gold out of the bag, and weigh silver in the balance, and hire a goldsmith; and he maketh it a god: they fall down, yea, they worship. 7 They bear him upon the shoulder, they carry him, and set him in his place, and he standeth; from his place shall he not remove: yea, one shall cry unto him, yet can he not answer, nor save him out of his trouble. 8 Remember this, and shew yourselves men: bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors. 9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. 12 Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness: 13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
Ed J, Micah 5 does not teach that Jesus’s origin is that he pre-existed and was later morphed into flesh of the tribe of Judah to become a ruler, it teaches that the one to be ruler of Israel comes out from the city of David, from the tribe of Judah, from the house of Israel, he being of an origin (Israel) of whom God had declared their end from ancient of days, even from the very beginning, generations of a people to whom God made promises to.
Deut 32:7 Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations: ask thy father, and he will shew thee; thy elders, and they will tell thee.8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the LORD’S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
Psalm 44:1 We have heard with our ears, O God, our fathers have told us, what work thou didst in their days, in the times of old.
Psalm 77:5 I have considered the days of old, the years of ancient times. 6 I call to remembrance my song in the night: I commune with mine own heart: and my spirit made diligent search. 7 Will the Lord cast off for ever? and will he be favourable no more?
Isaiah 51:9 Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?
Isaiah 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them. 11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?
Micah 7:20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old.
Lam 5:21 Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.
Amos 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
Mal 3:4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.
Jodi……what amazes me is , no matter how many times you and I quote exact scriptures to them they seem completely unable to recieve them into their thinking . I believe even if Jesus himself were here telling them, they still would not perceive it, simply amazing.
But does prove the point, “unless the LORD build the house the weary builders, build in vain, unless the LORD is the cities shield, the guards maintain a useless watch”.
God has given you great insite Jodi, into his words written in our scriptures, continue being a light, it is your gift from our God and Jesus the Christ who you are serving Sis.
Peace and love to you and yours. …………gene
Hi Ed J,
YOU:“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me,
he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and
WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)WHO ARE THE “WE”?
1 The Spirit of God (Jesus’ Father)
2 ?Who is #2 constituting the WE
ME:
“We” equals,
The Father and His Spirit of Wisdom
The Father’s Word that Jesus spokeHi Jodi,
Thank you trying to answer this Theological question.
But the “real” answer is found in the following verse…“So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that
(1)the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not
(2)the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:8-9)1. The Spirit of God
2. The Spirit of ChristThis is the “We” Jesus was referring to in John 14:23 Jodi
_____________
God bless
Ed Jwhere scripture says, “the Spirit of Christ” , was following Isreal in the wilderness, it is not meaning the man Jesus was following them
That’s right Gene,
“The man Jesus” was not born until he was born in Bethlehem (the house of bread).
“The Spirit of Christ” (the bread from heaven) was birthed at “The House of Bread”.
So “The Spirit of Christ” came from eternity being born in “The House of Bread”. (Micah 5:2)You may be making progress
Hi Ed J,
Chrio- to anoint
Christos = anointed
Before you become the anointed (CHRISTOS) God has to anoint (CHRIO) you.
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed (CHRIO) me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Acts 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ (CHRISTOS). 27 For of a truth against thy holy servant Jesus, whom thou hast anointed (CHRIO), both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
Acts 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed (CHRIO) Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
According to prophecy God was TO ANOINT the son of Jesse with His Spirit and send him out into the world having God with him directing all his ways. When Jesus of Nazareth was anointed with the Spirit he thus became Jesus Christ. God was with him, holding his hand, keeping him, directing all his ways.
Moreover we know we are to be made in the image of God’s Son, an image where those that are directed by God are the Sons of God, where the Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed (CHRIO) me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
There is no pre-existing Son, there is no pre-existing Christ.
God had promised unto David that He WOULD BE a Father unto David’s son, and God becomes a Father unto David’s son ACCORDING to His Spirit placed upon him, leading him.
Hi Ed J,
Neh 9:15 And gavest them bread from heaven for their hunger, and broughtest forth water for them out of the rock for their thirst, and promisedst them that they should go in to possess the land which thou hadst sworn to give them.
Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
John 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them,Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. 34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die.
58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”
63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS I SPEAK unto you, they are Spirit, and they are life.
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Deut 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
Ed J, Jesus says he is the BREAD FROM HEAVEN. He is calling himself that bread because he speaks God’s word that people must eat in order to live. He has that word of life because the Spirit descended upon him without measure from heaven where he is then sent from heaven/God to speak words from heaven/God.
1 Cor 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? 17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
God’s Spirit calls you to believe in His word, where you eat thereof in order to live.
Jesus was God’s word, God’s prophecies made true in Jesus’s flesh, from his birth, to his anointing, to his death and resurrection as a first begotten of the dead.
Jesus spoke God’s word, he quoted prophecy, he gave prophecy, he preached of salvation and the coming kingdom.
Jesus fulfills God’s word just as was prophesied. Upon Jesus being anointed with the Spirit he was sent to do God’s work where God would not allow him to fail as God had promised to hold his hand and keep him for to give him for a covenant of the people and for a light even unto the Gentiles. This Jesus is returning to further fulfill God’s word by doing God’s commands.
Ed J, seriously bro, the Bread from heaven does not equal a pre-existing Christ coming down to earth being morphed into a conception in Mary’s womb. The Bread from heaven is God’s Word that is Spirit and is Life, which God has given to us through the anointed Jesus of Nazareth.
Come on now, Jesus said he could do nothing of himself, there was no sending down of a pre-existing Christ, it was ALL about a man anointed with God’s Spirit being taught by God, a man being led by the Spirit of God. A man giving us proof to that which causes righteousness and life, the anointing Spirit of God where it causes us to follow all of God’s ways. We are not to be made into the image of some spirit son that came to be a half breed for awhile. We are to be made in the image of Jesus of Nazareth who was resurrected in power, in glory, incorruptible, receiving the promised Holy Spirit, being a Son of God according to that Spirit. The very reason why Jesus, the offspring of David, is said to be the first begotten of the dead.
Ed J, seriously bro, (1)the Bread from heaven does not equal a pre-existing Christ (2)coming down to earth being morphed into a conception in Mary’s womb. (3)The Bread from heaven is God’s Word that is Spirit and is Life, which God has given to us through the anointed Jesus of Nazareth.
1 “And did all eat the same spiritual meat (BREAD); 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink:
for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.” (1 Cor 10:3-4)2 “The Spirit of Christ” (the bread from heaven) was born in Bethlehem (the house of bread)
“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings
forth have been from of old, from everlasting. 3 Therefore will he give them up,
until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth” (Micah 5:2-3)3 Spin
Hi Ed J,
So your belief is that God sent a pre-existing anointed spirit son down to earth who could do nothing of himself, and we call him the Bread from heaven as he was born in Bethlehem the house of bread? That just seems like an empty doctrine that doesn’t match with profound truth we get from scriptures.
LUKE 4:4 AND JESUS ANSWERED HIM, SAYING, IT IS WRITTEN, THAT MAN SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE, BUT BY EVERY WORD OF GOD.
In order to live we must EAT THE WORD OF GOD.
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 6:63 IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKENETH; THE FLESH PROFITETH NOTHING: THE WORDS I SPEAK UNTO YOU, THEY ARE SPIRIT, AND THEY ARE LIFE.
We must belief on Jesus, THE WORDS OF GOD THAT HE SPEAKS TO US AS THEY ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE. Those words happen to include God’s plan concerning him and his brethren.
Ed J, agree or disagree that the “he whom God hath sent” to speak His words would be Jesus upon him being anointed with the Spirit?
Agree right??… “Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to…deliver captives…to set at liberty…
UPON Jesus being anointed he was THEN SENT with the purpose to speak God’s word and be a savior.
and as the account goes Jesus was baptized and rose up with the Spirit descending upon him,
Please explain, “23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus: 24 When John had first preached BEFORE HIS COMING the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
As we were told that God would raise up a prophet from among brethren, God would put His words into his mouth, and those who believed would be saved. We believe the words of God Jesus spoke, and those words were about Jesus, and those words Jesus fulfilled, so by believing in the word we are believing in Jesus.
John 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them,Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. 34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Ed J, the prophet that was to come speaking the WORDS that bring us life if we believe in them (which equates to believing in Jesus), didn’t come UNTIL Jesus of Nazareth received the Spirit without measure.
Ed J, I am applying rich meaningful scriptures together here that bring forth a very clear truth. Jesus was anointed and then sent TO speak God’s Gospel and to fulfill that Gospel, we believe on those words and that Jesus fulfilled those words we have life, such is why Jesus calls himself the bread of life, as we are to EAT THOSE WORDS, as man cannot live on bread alone.
Hi Ed J,
So your belief is that God sent a pre-existing anointed spirit son down to earth who could do nothing of himself, and we call him the Bread from heaven as he was born in Bethlehem the house of bread?
Hi Jodi,
Pretty good you pay attention. Gene does not seem to be able to do that,
maybe he really doesn’t have a “Free Will” like he keeps telling us?____________
God bless
Ed JHi Ed J,
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Christ Christos anointed
What is one anointed with?? The Spirit of God of course!
The Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God having been anointed upon you dwelling therein. There is the Spirit of God and that same Spirit is that which is of the anointed person.
When we see the words JESUS CHRIST, one should have in mind Jesus THE ANOINTED OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD, a BODY filled with the Spirit without measure causing righteousness.
1 Peter 1:10-11 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently,
who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: 11 Searching what,
or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify,
WHEN IT testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.”God anoints as He pleases with measure of His Spirit. Abraham and David as others were anointed with the Spirit of Truth whereby they saw Jesus’s day and rejoiced, they saw a BODY FULLY ANOINTED with God’s Spirit and knew they would be partakers of that same Spirit, that BODY would be their BODY. That Spirit of Christ an anointing of the Spirit was in them, as in they believed in it, they believed their seed would receive it, he’d save the world through it, so that they could be raised from the dead and receive it.
Ed J, READ further down the chapter,
1 Corinthians 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. 8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. 9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. 10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. 11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. 13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. 14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say. 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? 17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
APPLY, Mark 10:39 And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: 40 But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.
Ed J, we have fellowship of the body of the Anointed. Jesus was baptized where the Spirit descended upon him, an anointing of the Spirit of God. That same ANOINTING is OUR ANOINTING. HIS BODY was ANOINTED with the Spirit not by measure, he was filled with the Spirit where God is able to direct all your ways. Jesus was raised from the dead with it receiving the Holy Spirit as was promised, being begotten by God’s Spirit for all eternity without measure, a firstborn of many.
Ed J, your doctrine of Christ just destroys the very heart of the Gospel.
Jesus could do nothing of himself, he was a human born as a mortal with weak flesh able to be tempted. Growing up as a child God’s grace was upon him where he would know to choose the good over the evil, this was the same for John, as others who were called righteous people in scripture. When it was time for Jesus to be sent to do God’s work, not any easy task for a man of weak flesh, God anointed him with the full measure of His Spirit where by such He could direct all his ways with all the commands that He would give him.
Through the anointed Jesus we see God’s work, we learn of His plan since the beginning.
Through the anointed Jesus we see God’s word is true, we see God’s word fulfilled which gives us faith that what has been promised that is yet fulfilled with also be made true.
Through the anointed Jesus we see a man of weak mortal flesh overcome the world and be perfectly faithful to our God.
Through the anointed Jesus we see a man raised from the dead in power, glory, incorruptible having received the promised Holy Spirit given for all eternity, and our faith in God is that we will become as he is.
The prophet Ezekiel didn’t tell us we were to become like that of an anointed spirit son before coming to earth, he tells us that God is going to give us a new spirit, a new heart of flesh and place His Spirit upon us causing us to walk in all his ways.
Ed J, THINK
Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Jesus CHRIST -doesn’t represent an anointed spirit morphed into flesh. Jesus Christ represents a man of flesh who was anointed with God’s Spirit, a man able to die. This man is raised from the dead and given that Spirit forevermore, begotten with it for all eternity where he sits on the throne being of David’s seed a man of flesh, a HUMAN.
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