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    terraricca
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    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,08:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,12:38)
    PLEASE SHOW ME THOSE PROPHECIES ,BUT PLEASE IN A SHORT VERSION ONE AT THE TIME .

    Ok, Have you any questions about Daniel Chaoter 1 so far that has already been covered?  See here posts 4 and 7:

    https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….44;st=0

    OK, Have you any questions about Daniel Chapter 2 so far that has already been covered?  See 7th Post here:

    https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….4;st=30


    awhn

    I have ask you a question either you are answering me but do not send me to fly ,I want that you answer me in your own words with scriptures ,I do not need extracts from your religion books or pamflets ,or is because you do not know anything beside what is written in those religion books ???

    I only know scriptures i do not belong to any denomination ,so please simply start to explain the relation in Daniel 7 and 8

    and the kingdom the rock that comes down from the montain of God,

    #323922
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,13:50)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,08:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,12:38)
    PLEASE SHOW ME THOSE PROPHECIES ,BUT PLEASE IN A SHORT VERSION ONE AT THE TIME .

    Ok, Have you any questions about Daniel Chaoter 1 so far that has already been covered?  See here posts 4 and 7:

    https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….44;st=0

    OK, Have you any questions about Daniel Chapter 2 so far that has already been covered?  See 7th Post here:

    https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….4;st=30


    awhn

    I have ask you a question either you are answering me but do not send me to fly ,I want that you answer me in your own words with scriptures ,I do not need extracts from your religion books or pamflets ,or is because you do not know anything beside what is written in those religion books ???

    I only know scriptures i do not belong to any denomination ,so please simply start to explain the relation in Daniel 7 and 8

    and the kingdom the rock that comes down from the montain of God,


    Dear Terrarrica,

    What I have written is 99% my own material and studyf rom scripture, which is why I cite so much so that all may know the source I sue, and you will not find any of it written in any pamphlet anywhere, but if you search you will find that I have posted much of it online in numerous places under various pseudonyms in various forums and places.  That last 1% which is not my own is cited and quoted in quotations.

    We are not ready fo Daniel 7 or 8, since Daniel 3-6 have not been gone over.  There are very important things in those chapters which Daniel 7-8 build upon.

    #323924
    terraricca
    Participant

    awhn

    MT 23:23 “ Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.

    THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF CHRIST TO THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW OR SO THEY SAID ,

    Lev 27:30 “ ‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the LORD? it is holy to the LORD.

    Lev 26:45 But for their sake I will remember the covenant with their ancestors whom I brought out of Egypt in the sight of the nations to be their God. I am the LORD.’ ”
    Lev 26:46 These are the decrees, the laws and the regulations that the LORD established on Mount Sinai between himself and the Israelites through Moses.

    Lev 26:42 I will remember my covenant with Jacob and my covenant with Isaac and my covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land.
    Lev 26:43 For the land will be deserted by them and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them. They will pay for their sins because they rejected my laws and abhorred my decrees.

    Nu 18:24 Instead, I give to the Levites as their inheritance the tithes that the Israelites present as an offering to the LORD. That is why I said concerning them: ‘They will have no inheritance among the Israelites.’ ”
    Nu 18:25 The LORD said to Moses,
    Nu 18:26 “Speak to the Levites and say to them: ‘When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I give you as your inheritance, you must present a tenth of that tithe as the LORD'S offering.

    ALL THE SABBATHS AND THE TITHE ARE PART OF THE LAW ,TO BE APPLIED IN THE NEW PROMISED LAND,

    CHRIST HIS THE LAST SACRIFICE TO BE OFFERT TO GOD AS A BLOOD OFFERING ,WE NOW WORK 24/7 FOR GOD IN THE SPIRIT ,WITH ALL OUR STRENGHT ,OUR MIND ,OUR HEART AND SOUL ,THERE ARE NO MORE SABBATHS WE LIVING THE SABBATH OF GOD .

    #323926
    terraricca
    Participant

    AWHN

    there for anyone of the apostles had no material things more than what they neede for the preaching ,no building ,no organization no sect no denomination,all new disciples were directed directly to God and his son ,the way it should be ,it is our responsibility to search Gods knowledge if we do not it is because we do not like the light ,and being in a denomination wont change a thing ,

    #323927
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,08:54)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,13:50)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,08:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,12:38)
    PLEASE SHOW ME THOSE PROPHECIES ,BUT PLEASE IN A SHORT VERSION ONE AT THE TIME .

    Ok, Have you any questions about Daniel Chaoter 1 so far that has already been covered?  See here posts 4 and 7:

    https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….44;st=0

    OK, Have you any questions about Daniel Chapter 2 so far that has already been covered?  See 7th Post here:

    https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….4;st=30


    awhn

    I have ask you a question either you are answering me but do not send me to fly ,I want that you answer me in your own words with scriptures ,I do not need extracts from your religion books or pamflets ,or is because you do not know anything beside what is written in those religion books ???

    I only know scriptures i do not belong to any denomination ,so please simply start to explain the relation in Daniel 7 and 8

    and the kingdom the rock that comes down from the montain of God,


    Dear Terrarrica,

    What I have written is 99% my own material and studyf rom scripture, which is why I cite so much so that all may know the source I sue, and you will not find any of it written in any pamphlet anywhere, but if you search you will find that I have posted much of it online in numerous places under various pseudonyms in various forums and places.  That last 1% which is not my own is cited and quoted in quotations.

    We are not ready fo Daniel 7 or 8, since Daniel 3-6 have not been gone over.  There are very important things in those chapters which Daniel 7-8 build upon.


    awhn

    I have read Daniel more or less 100 times try me make it simple start from were you feel the most confortable ,I will follow you and only stop you with a question ,ok

    #323928
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:15)
    AWHN

    there for anyone of the apostles had no material things more than what they neede for the preaching ,no building ,no organization no sect no denomination,all new disciples were directed directly to God and his son ,the way it should be ,it is our responsibility to search Gods knowledge if we do not it is because we do not like the light ,and being in a denomination wont change a thing ,


    How many Arks were there in Noah's Day?

    #323929
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:15)
    AWHN

    there for anyone of the apostles had no material things more than what they neede for the preaching ,no building ,no organization no sect no denomination,all new disciples were directed directly to God and his son ,the way it should be ,it is our responsibility to search Gods knowledge if we do not it is because we do not like the light ,and being in a denomination wont change a thing ,


    How many Arks were there in Noah's Day?


    awhn

    the question is how many arks did God request Noah to build ???

    one

    Ge 6:14 So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out.
    Ge 6:15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.

    #323930
    terraricca
    Participant

    awhn

    Quote
    We are not ready fo Daniel 7 or 8, since Daniel 3-6 have not been gone over. There are very important things in those chapters which Daniel 7-8 build upon.

    who his “we”

    #323932
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:09)
    awhn

    MT 23:23 “ Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.

    THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF CHRIST TO THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW OR SO THEY SAID …

    Indeed Terraricca,  notice again what the text specifically says, and allow me to split it up into its chiasm:

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
    or ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin
    and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith
    these ought ye to have done,
    and not to leave the other undone.

    The Pharisees were only doing the one, Tithe, and not the weightier matters of Law, Judgment, Mercy and Faith.  Christ Jesus wants both done and in the right Spirit, even in Spirit and in Truth.

    #323933
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:23)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:15)
    AWHN

    there for anyone of the apostles had no material things more than what they neede for the preaching ,no building ,no organization no sect no denomination,all new disciples were directed directly to God and his son ,the way it should be ,it is our responsibility to search Gods knowledge if we do not it is because we do not like the light ,and being in a denomination wont change a thing ,


    How many Arks were there in Noah's Day?


    awhn

    the question is how many arks did God request Noah to build ???

    one

    Ge 6:14 So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out.
    Ge 6:15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.


    Indeed, only one Ark.

    And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. Luke 17:26

    There are not a bunch of little boats… but One, specially built by the instruction given of God.

    #323935
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:30)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:23)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:15)
    AWHN

    there for anyone of the apostles had no material things more than what they neede for the preaching ,no building ,no organization no sect no denomination,all new disciples were directed directly to God and his son ,the way it should be ,it is our responsibility to search Gods knowledge if we do not it is because we do not like the light ,and being in a denomination wont change a thing ,


    How many Arks were there in Noah's Day?


    awhn

    the question is how many arks did God request Noah to build ???

    one

    Ge 6:14 So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out.
    Ge 6:15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.


    Indeed, only one Ark.

    And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. Luke 17:26

    There are not a bunch of little boats… but One, specially built by the instruction given of God.


    awhn

    but we do not make arks any more because they would burn ,

    1PE 1:7 so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
    2PE 3:7 But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

    SO CHRIST DID NOT TALK ABOUT THE ARK BUT THE CONDITIONS THAT LEAD TO THE DESTRUCTION WITH THE FLOOD IN THE DAYS OF NOAH,

    SO YOU HAVE WRONG .AND THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED IS TO HAVE EMBRASED GODS WILL THROUGH CHRIST ,THIS MEANS THAT “YOU LOVE YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART ,STRENGHT,MIND AND SOUL SO THAT GOD BECOMES A PART IN YOU ,GOD LOVES WHAT IS HIS OWN

    #323936
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:09)
    awhn

    MT 23:23 “ Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.

    THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF CHRIST TO THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW OR SO THEY SAID …

    Indeed Terraricca,  notice again what the text specifically says, and allow me to split it up into its chiasm:

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
    or ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin
    and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith
    these ought ye to have done,
    and not to leave the other undone.

    The Pharisees were only doing the one, Tithe, and not the weightier matters of Law, Judgment, Mercy and Faith.  Christ Jesus wants both done and in the right Spirit, even in Spirit and in Truth.


    AWHN

    PLEASE READ MY PREVIOUS QUOTE ABOUT THE TITHE BEING PART OF THE LAW OF MOSES ,

    YOU COMMENT IS USELESS BECAUSE THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN THE TIME OF JESUS WERE UNDER THE LAW IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU SAY IT WILL NOT CHANGE THAT FACT .

    #323938
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:39)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:30)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:23)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:15)
    AWHN

    there for anyone of the apostles had no material things more than what they neede for the preaching ,no building ,no organization no sect no denomination,all new disciples were directed directly to God and his son ,the way it should be ,it is our responsibility to search Gods knowledge if we do not it is because we do not like the light ,and being in a denomination wont change a thing ,


    How many Arks were there in Noah's Day?


    awhn

    the question is how many arks did God request Noah to build ???

    one

    Ge 6:14 So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out.
    Ge 6:15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.


    Indeed, only one Ark.

    And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. Luke 17:26

    There are not a bunch of little boats… but One, specially built by the instruction given of God.


    awhn

    but we do not make arks any more because they would burn ,

    1PE 1:7 so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
    2PE 3:7 But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

    SO CHRIST DID NOT TALK ABOUT THE ARK BUT THE CONDITIONS THAT LEAD TO THE DESTRUCTION WITH THE FLOOD IN THE DAYS OF NOAH,

    SO YOU HAVE WRONG .AND THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED IS TO HAVE EMBRASED GODS WILL THROUGH CHRIST ,THIS MEANS THAT “YOU LOVE YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART ,STRENGHT,MIND AND SOUL SO THAT GOD BECOMES A PART IN YOU ,GOD LOVES WHAT IS HIS OWN


    I am not speaking about a literal boat made of wood Terraricca.

    #323939
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:44)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:09)
    awhn

    MT 23:23 “ Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.

    THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF CHRIST TO THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW OR SO THEY SAID …

    Indeed Terraricca,  notice again what the text specifically says, and allow me to split it up into its chiasm:

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
    or ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin
    and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith
    these ought ye to have done,
    and not to leave the other undone.

    The Pharisees were only doing the one, Tithe, and not the weightier matters of Law, Judgment, Mercy and Faith.  Christ Jesus wants both done and in the right Spirit, even in Spirit and in Truth.


    AWHN

    PLEASE READ MY PREVIOUS QUOTE ABOUT THE TITHE BEING PART OF THE LAW OF MOSES ,

    YOU COMMENT IS USELESS BECAUSE THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN THE TIME OF JESUS WERE UNDER THE LAW IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU SAY IT WILL NOT CHANGE THAT FACT .

    This was addressed in the first video of Doctrines that Divide.  Since it might be easier to consider for some, for to be “under the Law” is defined by Paul as under the condemnation of its transgression.  Sin is defined by John and Paul and many others

    What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Romans 6:15

    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

    What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. Romans 7:7

    Which Law said, Thou Shalt not Covet?  It is the Ten Commandments, which according to Paul are Holy, Just and Good, and according to all of scripture, even for ever and ever.

    The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple. Psalms 19:7

    They stand fast for ever and ever, [and are] done in truth and uprightness. Psalms 111:18

    My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Psalms 89:34

    #323941
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Christ Jesus never taught to transgress the Ten Comamndments, not ever before, during or after His death, Burial and Resurrection.

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 5:17

    …there is that power which would think to do so:

    And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. Daniel 7:25

    Did you know that the 7th Day Sabbath of the 4th Commandment is both a Time and Law?

    #323942
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:44)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:09)
    awhn

    MT 23:23 “ Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.

    THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF CHRIST TO THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW OR SO THEY SAID …

    Indeed Terraricca,  notice again what the text specifically says, and allow me to split it up into its chiasm:

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
    or ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin
    and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith
    these ought ye to have done,
    and not to leave the other undone.

    The Pharisees were only doing the one, Tithe, and not the weightier matters of Law, Judgment, Mercy and Faith.  Christ Jesus wants both done and in the right Spirit, even in Spirit and in Truth.


    AWHN

    PLEASE READ MY PREVIOUS QUOTE ABOUT THE TITHE BEING PART OF THE LAW OF MOSES ,

    YOU COMMENT IS USELESS BECAUSE THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN THE TIME OF JESUS WERE UNDER THE LAW IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU SAY IT WILL NOT CHANGE THAT FACT .

    This was addressed in the first video of Doctrines that Divide.  Since it might be easier to consider for some, for to be “under the Law” is defined by Paul as under the condemnation of its transgression.  Sin is defined by John and Paul and many others

    What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Romans 6:15

    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

    What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. Romans 7:7

    Which Law said, Thou Shalt not Covet?  It is the Ten Commandments, which according to Paul are Holy, Just and Good, and according to all of scripture, even for ever and ever.

    The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple. Psalms 19:7

    They stand fast for ever and ever, [and are] done in truth and uprightness. Psalms 111:18

    My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Psalms 89:34


    AWHN

    THIS IS IT ;

    Nu 18:24 Instead, I give to the Levites as their inheritance the tithes that the Israelites present as an offering to the LORD. That is why I said concerning them: ‘They will have no inheritance among the Israelites.’ ”
    Nu 18:25 The LORD said to Moses,
    Nu 18:26 “Speak to the Levites and say to them: ‘When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I give you as your inheritance, you must present a tenth of that tithe as the LORD'S offering.

    ALL THE SABBATHS AND THE TITHE ARE PART OF THE LAW ,TO BE APPLIED IN THE NEW PROMISED LAND,

    CHRIST HIS THE LAST SACRIFICE TO BE OFFERT TO GOD AS A BLOOD OFFERING ,WE NOW WORK 24/7 FOR GOD IN THE SPIRIT ,WITH ALL OUR STRENGHT ,OUR MIND ,OUR HEART AND SOUL ,THERE ARE NO MORE SABBATHS WE LIVING THE SABBATH OF GOD .

    ————–

    so you did not addressed this ,I do not like videos ,to well set for propaganda ,

    #323943
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,15:14)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:44)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:09)
    awhn

    MT 23:23 “ Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.

    THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF CHRIST TO THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW OR SO THEY SAID …

    Indeed Terraricca,  notice again what the text specifically says, and allow me to split it up into its chiasm:

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
    or ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin
    and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith
    these ought ye to have done,
    and not to leave the other undone.

    The Pharisees were only doing the one, Tithe, and not the weightier matters of Law, Judgment, Mercy and Faith.  Christ Jesus wants both done and in the right Spirit, even in Spirit and in Truth.


    AWHN

    PLEASE READ MY PREVIOUS QUOTE ABOUT THE TITHE BEING PART OF THE LAW OF MOSES ,

    YOU COMMENT IS USELESS BECAUSE THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN THE TIME OF JESUS WERE UNDER THE LAW IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU SAY IT WILL NOT CHANGE THAT FACT .

    This was addressed in the first video of Doctrines that Divide.  Since it might be easier to consider for some, for to be “under the Law” is defined by Paul as under the condemnation of its transgression.  Sin is defined by John and Paul and many others

    What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Romans 6:15

    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

    What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. Romans 7:7

    Which Law said, Thou Shalt not Covet?  It is the Ten Commandments, which according to Paul are Holy, Just and Good, and according to all of scripture, even for ever and ever.

    The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple. Psalms 19:7

    They stand fast for ever and ever, [and are] done in truth and uprightness. Psalms 111:18

    My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Psalms 89:34


    AWHN

    THIS IS IT ;

    Nu 18:24 Instead, I give to the Levites as their inheritance the tithes that the Israelites present as an offering to the LORD. That is why I said concerning them: ‘They will have no inheritance among the Israelites.’ ”
    Nu 18:25 The LORD said to Moses,
    Nu 18:26 “Speak to the Levites and say to them: ‘When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I give you as your inheritance, you must present a tenth of that tithe as the LORD'S offering.

    ALL THE SABBATHS AND THE TITHE ARE PART OF THE LAW ,TO BE APPLIED IN THE NEW PROMISED LAND,

    CHRIST HIS THE LAST SACRIFICE TO BE OFFERT TO GOD AS A BLOOD OFFERING ,WE NOW WORK 24/7 FOR GOD IN THE SPIRIT ,WITH ALL OUR STRENGHT ,OUR MIND ,OUR HEART AND SOUL ,THERE ARE NO MORE SABBATHS WE LIVING THE SABBATH OF GOD .

    ————–

    so you did not addressed this ,I do not like videos ,to well set for propaganda ,


    I did, but you did not hear.

    Hebrews 4:4-11 disagrees with you.  Hebrews 4:9 specifcally says in the greek [rest] “sabbatismos” [literal sabbath keeping], and specifically uses the word apoleipo, which means “remains”.

    There literally remains a sabbath keeping to the people of God, for the very reasons given in Hebrews  Chapters 3-4.  We are to rest even as God did…

    #323944
    terraricca
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    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,10:14)
    Christ Jesus never taught to transgress the Ten Comamndments, not ever before, during or after His death, Burial and Resurrection.

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 5:17

    …there is that power which would think to do so:

    And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. Daniel 7:25

    Did you know that the 7th Day Sabbath of the 4th Commandment is both a Time and Law?


    awhn

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    Christ Jesus never taught to transgress the Ten Comamndments, not ever before, during or after His death, Burial and Resurrection.

    this i agree with ;

    Da 7:24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.
    Da 7:25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.
    Da 7:26 “ ‘But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever.

    you mention this verse but say nothing why ???

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    Did you know that the 7th Day Sabbath of the 4th Commandment is both a Time and Law?

    then you say this but you do not say anything either ,how would you think that i would know what you going to tell me ??? i am not a 7th day adventist ,i only use scriptures and thats the way you have to make your understanding stand or it will fall ,

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,15:28)

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    Did you know that the 7th Day Sabbath of the 4th Commandment is both a Time and Law?

    then you say this but you do not say anything either ,how would you think that i would know what you going to tell me ??? i am not a 7th day adventist ,i only use scriptures and thats the way you have to make your understanding stand or it will fall ,


    Genesis 2:2-3 The Sabbath of the Lord hty God is the 7th Day. See the Hebrew, Shabat.

    Exodus 20:8-11, The Sabbath of the Lord thy God is a Comamndment, hence Law.

    Therefore it is both a Time and Law.

    The Antichrist power would think to change this, among other things.

    #323946
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,10:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,15:14)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:44)

    Quote (AWHN @ Dec. 10 2012,09:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2012,14:09)
    awhn

    MT 23:23 “ Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.

    THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF CHRIST TO THOSE WHO FOLLOWED THE LAW OR SO THEY SAID …

    Indeed Terraricca,  notice again what the text specifically says, and allow me to split it up into its chiasm:

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
    or ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin
    and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith
    these ought ye to have done,
    and not to leave the other undone.

    The Pharisees were only doing the one, Tithe, and not the weightier matters of Law, Judgment, Mercy and Faith.  Christ Jesus wants both done and in the right Spirit, even in Spirit and in Truth.


    AWHN

    PLEASE READ MY PREVIOUS QUOTE ABOUT THE TITHE BEING PART OF THE LAW OF MOSES ,

    YOU COMMENT IS USELESS BECAUSE THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN THE TIME OF JESUS WERE UNDER THE LAW IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU SAY IT WILL NOT CHANGE THAT FACT .

    This was addressed in the first video of Doctrines that Divide.  Since it might be easier to consider for some, for to be “under the Law” is defined by Paul as under the condemnation of its transgression.  Sin is defined by John and Paul and many others

    What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Romans 6:15

    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

    What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. Romans 7:7

    Which Law said, Thou Shalt not Covet?  It is the Ten Commandments, which according to Paul are Holy, Just and Good, and according to all of scripture, even for ever and ever.

    The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple. Psalms 19:7

    They stand fast for ever and ever, [and are] done in truth and uprightness. Psalms 111:18

    My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Psalms 89:34


    AWHN

    THIS IS IT ;

    Nu 18:24 Instead, I give to the Levites as their inheritance the tithes that the Israelites present as an offering to the LORD. That is why I said concerning them: ‘They will have no inheritance among the Israelites.’ ”
    Nu 18:25 The LORD said to Moses,
    Nu 18:26 “Speak to the Levites and say to them: ‘When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I give you as your inheritance, you must present a tenth of that tithe as the LORD'S offering.

    ALL THE SABBATHS AND THE TITHE ARE PART OF THE LAW ,TO BE APPLIED IN THE NEW PROMISED LAND,

    CHRIST HIS THE LAST SACRIFICE TO BE OFFERT TO GOD AS A BLOOD OFFERING ,WE NOW WORK 24/7 FOR GOD IN THE SPIRIT ,WITH ALL OUR STRENGHT ,OUR MIND ,OUR HEART AND SOUL ,THERE ARE NO MORE SABBATHS WE LIVING THE SABBATH OF GOD .

    ————–

    so you did not addressed this ,I do not like videos ,to well set for propaganda ,


    I did, but you did not hear.

    Hebrews 4:4-11 disagrees with you.  Hebrews 4:9 specifcally says in the greek [rest] “sabbatismos” [literal sabbath keeping], and specifically uses the word apoleipo, which means “remains”.

    There literally remains a sabbath keeping to the people of God, for the very reasons given in Hebrews  Chapters 3-4.  We are to rest even as God did…


    awhn

    Heb 4:1 Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it.
    Heb 4:2 For we also have had the gospel preached to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith.
    Heb 4:3 Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,
    “So I declared on oath in my anger,
    ‘They shall never enter my rest.’ ”

    And yet his work has been finished since the creation of the world.
    Heb 4:4 For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “And on the seventh day God rested from all his work.”
    Heb 4:5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”
    Heb 4:6 It still remains that some will enter that rest, and those who formerly had the gospel preached to them did not go in, because of their disobedience.
    Heb 4:7 Therefore God again set a certain day, calling it Today, when a long time later he spoke through David, as was said before:
    “Today, if you hear his voice,
    do not harden your hearts.”
    Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day.
    Heb 4:9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;
    Heb 4:10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his.
    Heb 4:11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following their example of disobedience.
    Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
    Heb 4:13 Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

    so about witch sabbath or rest did Paul talks about look in Hebrew 3-17-19

    Heb 3:17 And with whom was he angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies fell in the desert?
    Heb 3:18 And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed ?
    Heb 3:19 So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.

    he his talking about what happen in the desert with
    the hebrews that came out of Egypt and grumbled all the way ,and God made them die in the desert ,

    so again the sabbath as an observation day his gone but not the promise of enterring the rest day of God as Paul explain it read it please

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