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Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 20 2012,10:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 20 2012,02:46) Terra. You truly believe those prophesies are all fulfilled.
This is fine,but you need to prove that they are all fulfilled.
And this is what is missing.
Prove to us that it is all past prophesies,if you can.
Or anybody out there.wakeup.
waupI will not prove anything ,this is why I quoted you Nicodemus, you will only understand those things wen you are of a spiritual nature,
and Christ and his disciples and the psalms will teach you to become of that nature
I like someone to proof to me and friends, that we are so wrong,so we can improve,but unfortunately no one is able too. All we get is no proof, but abuse.This only shows that most christians only know 25% of the bible,the rest of the bible is foreign to them.
This why God says that the land is desolate; and he is always right.
Come and learn; with no money.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 20 2012,18:44) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 20 2012,10:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 20 2012,02:46) Terra. You truly believe those prophesies are all fulfilled.
This is fine,but you need to prove that they are all fulfilled.
And this is what is missing.
Prove to us that it is all past prophesies,if you can.
Or anybody out there.wakeup.
waupI will not prove anything ,this is why I quoted you Nicodemus, you will only understand those things wen you are of a spiritual nature,
and Christ and his disciples and the psalms will teach you to become of that nature
I like someone to proof to me and friends, that we are so wrong,so we can improve,but unfortunately no one is able too. All we get is no proof, but abuse.This only shows that most christians only know 25% of the bible,the rest of the bible is foreign to them.
This why God says that the land is desolate; and he is always right.
Come and learn; with no money.
wakeup.
why do you try to put your burden on me
it is your duty to make sure that you are not a liar, not mine
Rev 14:5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,02:52) Terra. Maybe we should communicate in france?
wakeup.
do you think French people don't lie yes so are all humans me included ,but wen we talk of God word then we should know betterQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2012,08:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,02:52) Terra. Maybe we should communicate in france?
wakeup.
do you think French people don't lie yes so are all humans me included ,but wen we talk of God word then we should know better
Terra.Do you really think that I am a liar.
Do you really think I have misinterpret all those scriptures?
Why is there no one that can correct me.
Not even THE MASTER TERRA.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,06:32) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2012,08:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,02:52) Terra. Maybe we should communicate in france?
wakeup.
do you think French people don't lie yes so are all humans me included ,but wen we talk of God word then we should know better
Terra.Do you really think that I am a liar.
Do you really think I have misinterpret all those scriptures?
Why is there no one that can correct me.
Not even THE MASTER TERRA.wakeup.
waupI have answered that question already; I told you what is wrong with your presentation but you do not accepted ,so what else is their to discuss
nothing Quote Do you really think that I am a liar. I will not judge you ,you in your heart answer that question God can see your heart ,also their is a difference between those who ask question and those who are answering those questions,
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,06:32) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2012,08:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,02:52) Terra. Maybe we should communicate in france?
wakeup.
do you think French people don't lie yes so are all humans me included ,but wen we talk of God word then we should know better
Terra.Do you really think that I am a liar.
Do you really think I have misinterpret all those scriptures?
Why is there no one that can correct me.
Not even THE MASTER TERRA.wakeup.
I am no master ,just Christ slaveQuote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,06:56) Hi Terra. But you dont talk like a slave.
You talk like ''have it my way,or the highway.wakeup.
I only defend truth of God ,what is it that you defending WAKEUP views
YesQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2013,17:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,06:56) Hi Terra. But you dont talk like a slave.
You talk like ''have it my way,or the highway.wakeup.
I only defend truth of God ,what is it that you defending WAKEUP views
Yes
Terra.Bring out your defence.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2013,12:29) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2013,17:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,06:56) Hi Terra. But you dont talk like a slave.
You talk like ''have it my way,or the highway.wakeup.
I only defend truth of God ,what is it that you defending WAKEUP views
Yes
Terra.Bring out your defence.
wakeup.
wupI have ask a question and you never answered it and so was j42
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Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2012,00:04)
J42I can see you have a good view and understanding ,I like that ;
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
you quoted this scripture ;and that's fine but do you understand it like wen do you think this applies
Terra.
That scripture is just basic understanding,of which you can not even understand.
Come out of her;who is her?
Show us if you can.wakeup.
again I ask ;
Quote j42 Quote
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.No forgiveness there. Nothing to wipe their sins away now, last call my people.
right ,but wen would you apply it
again you answered it ;
Quote
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2012,01:55)
j42Quote
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.No forgiveness there. Nothing to wipe their sins away now, last call my people.
right ,but wen would you apply it
Terra.
Once the plaques has come ,then its too late.
wakeup.
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I have answered ;
Quote wup you move away from my question
you have answered ;
Quote Terra. Rev.18:5. FOR HER SINS HAS REACHED UNTO HEAVEN.
THATS IT; IT CAN NOT GO ANY HIGHER.Terra;whats going on in your country;under the Denver airport? A city under ground.
All the leaders of the usa will be hiding there in 5days time,because they say, the sun is going to burn up the earth?I think its not only the leaders of the usa but the world.will be hiding in their own city underground.
THERE WILL BE MANY RED FACES,BECAUSE OF SHAME.I have the video.
wakup.
I have answered this to you ;
Quote wup first I am not living in the US but in Canada,
and you still did not answer my question nor J42
j42 answers this ;
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Posted: Dec. 16 2012,07:27Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2012,09:26)
Quote
and you still did not answer my question nor J42Pierre
I see what you mean now.
I can't predict exactly when the plagues are going to come until the false prophet shows his face. But even before he comes, the 10 horn beast must be set up, (new world order) and they will show their face and we will know exactly what they will call themselves. and before they come, the economies of USA, and Europe will totally collapse, and they will replace with their new system. They have caused this collapse on purpose to bring in their new system. I say the beast (10 kings) will emerge within the next 2-3 years, possibly earlier but definitely not in 2012. We just have to wait and see and go by the signs given to us. That's all we have at the moment, we must keep watching.
There are clues here and there in the OT. One clue is that Israel are given 70 years to serve the king of Babylon, They have been serving him for longer than this, but for the LAST FINAL time they serve the king of Babylon(Satan) has to start somewhere?
I believe it started from when they were re-established in 1948. You do the maths. Things will start moving when that time is up. In 2018, Israel will be occupied, taken over. (punishment on them begins) and we know they will be trodden down for a further 3 1/2 years.
The false prophet will lead for a total of 6.49 years, so he has come out before he attacks Israel, before 2018, and the 10 horned beast (8th) will come before him (before 2015) So we don't have much time to play with. All is moving so fast now, and evil is escalating at the fastest rate. Everything I said is according to scripture, and not invented. I have quoted these scriptures before but some were too busy calling me a liar, that they didn't consider those scriptures.
But what people also don't realise, is that if we die before then, our time is up anyway, and he comes when we don't expect him, as a thief in the night. (unexpectedly)
Nobody knows what the hour of their death is going to be, so they don't know the hour of his coming… for them personally….but obviously this is different from “the coming” and judgement on Babylon the Great.
I hope I have answered your question now?.
this is what I have answered to it ;
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Posted: Dec. 16 2012,08:04
J42Quote
There are clues here and there in the OT. One clue is that Israel are given 70 years to serve the king of Babylon, They have been serving him for longer than this, but for the LAST FINAL time they serve the king
of Babylon(Satan) has to start somewhere?were in scriptures does it say that the 70 year of bondage for Israel corruption by Babylon as to be repeated in our time
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The false prophet will lead for a total of 6.49 years, so he has come out before he attacks Israel, before 2018, and the 10 horned beast (8th) will come before him (before 2015) So we don't have much time to play with. All is moving so fast now, and evil is escalating at the fastest rate. Everything I said is according to scripture, and not invented. I have quoted these scriptures before but some were too busy calling me a liar, that they didn't consider those scriptures.now still continue from the destruction of Jerusalem and the devastation of Israel ,in 70 ad, THIS ACTION BY GOD ALMITHY ,AS MADE ISRAEL FINAL REJECTION BY GOD HIMSELF FOR ALL WHAT THEY HAVE DONE ;NOW JESUS ALSO PREDICTED THE CHANGE IN THE WORSHIP ,BY WHAT HE TELL THE SAMARITAIN WOMEN Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
AND ;;Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”AS YOU CAN SEE JESUS DOES NOT SEPARATE THE JEWS FROM ANY OTHER WORSHIPER ,SO IT MEANS ALL WORSHIPERS.
THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM INCLUDING ALL THE TEMPLE AND HIS ATTACHED BUILDING SHOWN THE FINAL DIVORCE FROM GOD AND ISRAEL AS A NATION WERE GOD AS HIS NAME ON, SO ISRAEL AS NOTHING LEFT THAT MAY REBUILT THAT CONNECTION ,BUT THE PROMISE THAT GOD MADE IS MADE TO ALL INCLUDING THE NATION OF ISRAEL AND SO THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REJECTED BUT ARE SAVED ON THE SAME BASES THAN THE GENTILS ,(PAUL EXPLAIN THIS THROUGH HIS LETTERS)
SO IN VIEW OF THOSE UNDERSTANDING IN SCRIPTURES YOUR DATES ARE VOID AND OF NO VALUE ,ALSO GOD DOES NOT CARE OF WHAT MEN DOES BECAUSE HE IS ALSO CONTROLING THEIR ROAD BUT THE OUTCOME WILL BE HIS WILL ,AND HIS WILL HIS LAYED OUT IN PROPHECIES THIS IS TRUE ,BUT WE HAVE TO SEE THE PROPHECIES NOT ACCORDING TO THE FLESH BUT ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT ,
AND ALSO TO THE TRUE BELIEVER THAT KNOWS HIS GOD ,AND THE SON ,IT DOES NOT MATTER WEN THE SON RETURN ,BECAUSE HE IS WORKING FOR THE SON AND SO WILL NOT BE FOUND NAKED WHEN HE COMES ,
AN TRUE CHRISTIAN IS NEVER MOVED BY FEAR ,HE KNOWS THAT GOD HIS ON HIS SIDE THE SON HAS IT MADE KNOWN TO HIM.
and then added this question;
Quote j42 the false prophet ,were is this mention in scriptures
then devo shows up
you show up congratulate him and j42 so now you form a coalition of three ,but you only can deny the scriptures I showed you by cheap comments not by scriptures ,and that is my point ,
I will not trust sush a person in truth ,and I will do all I can not to be dragged into it ,
Gods truth as to stand on his own ,even if you think it may fall like Huzzah
Terra.
You are so confusing.
Answering a question with a question,never straight forward.
Quoting scriptures not related to the topic discussed.Wondering around like a drunkerd.
Ignoring straight questions.You know the scriptures but dont know how to put them together; just mix them all in one bowl.
You suppose to create a big picture with the scriptures and prophesies, and you dont know that.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2013,13:24) Terra. You are so confusing.
Answering a question with a question,never straight forward.
Quoting scriptures not related to the topic discussed.Wondering around like a drunkerd.
Ignoring straight questions.You know the scriptures but dont know how to put them together; just mix them all in one bowl.
You suppose to create a big picture with the scriptures and prophesies, and you dont know that.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2013,19:07) I am attacking your wall; come up with your defence.
Have you got none?Wakeup.
here answer my question of 5 months agoQuote Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. No forgiveness there. Nothing to wipe their sins away now, last call my people.
My question;
right ,but wen would you apply itQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2013,03:56) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2013,19:07) I am attacking your wall; come up with your defence.
Have you got none?Wakeup.
here answer my question of 5 months agoQuote Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. No forgiveness there. Nothing to wipe their sins away now, last call my people.
My question;
right ,but wen would you apply it
Terra.You are good in asking questions,but not good in answering
questions.
Scriptures dont mean much to you,if it does not fit in your
doctrine.
If you just read rev.18 carefully,your question will be answered.The sins of BABYLON has reached up to heaven.
Its a long distance from earth to heaven,and that reprecents her all her sins.God is ready to act,so come out of BABYLON as soon as you can or you also will receive her plagues.
Wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2013,17:56) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2013,12:29) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2013,17:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,06:56) Hi Terra. But you dont talk like a slave.
You talk like ''have it my way,or the highway.wakeup.
I only defend truth of God ,what is it that you defending WAKEUP views
Yes
Terra.Bring out your defence.
wakeup.
wupI have ask a question and you never answered it and so was j42
Quote
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2012,00:04)
J42I can see you have a good view and understanding ,I like that ;
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
you quoted this scripture ;and that's fine but do you understand it like wen do you think this applies
Terra.
That scripture is just basic understanding,of which you can not even understand.
Come out of her;who is her?
Show us if you can.wakeup.
again I ask ;
Quote j42 Quote
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.No forgiveness there. Nothing to wipe their sins away now, last call my people.
right ,but wen would you apply it
again you answered it ;
Quote
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2012,01:55)
j42Quote
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.No forgiveness there. Nothing to wipe their sins away now, last call my people.
right ,but wen would you apply it
Terra.
Once the plaques has come ,then its too late.
wakeup.
————–
I have answered ;
Quote wup you move away from my question
you have answered ;
Quote Terra. Rev.18:5. FOR HER SINS HAS REACHED UNTO HEAVEN.
THATS IT; IT CAN NOT GO ANY HIGHER.Terra;whats going on in your country;under the Denver airport? A city under ground.
All the leaders of the usa will be hiding there in 5days time,because they say, the sun is going to burn up the earth?I think its not only the leaders of the usa but the world.will be hiding in their own city underground.
THERE WILL BE MANY RED FACES,BECAUSE OF SHAME.I have the video.
wakup.
I have answered this to you ;
Quote wup first I am not living in the US but in Canada,
and you still did not answer my question nor J42
j42 answers this ;
Quote
Posted: Dec. 16 2012,07:27Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2012,09:26)
Quote
and you still did not answer my question nor J42Pierre
I see what you mean now.
I can't predict exactly when the plagues are going to come until the false prophet shows his face. But even before he comes, the 10 horn beast must be set up, (new world order) and they will show their face and we will know exactly what they will call themselves. and before they come, the economies of USA, and Europe will totally collapse, and they will replace with their new system. They have caused this collapse on purpose to bring in their new system. I say the beast (10 kings) will emerge within the next 2-3 years, possibly earlier but definitely not in 2012. We just have to wait and see and go by the signs given to us. That's all we have at the moment, we must keep watching.
There are clues here and there in the OT. One clue is that Israel are given 70 years to serve the king of Babylon, They have been serving him for longer than this, but for the LAST FINAL time they serve the king of Babylon(Satan) has to start somewhere?
I believe it started from when they were re-established in 1948. You do the maths. Things will start moving when that time is up. In 2018, Israel will be occupied, taken over. (punishment on them begins) and we know they will be trodden down for a further 3 1/2 years.
The false prophet will lead for a total of 6.49 years, so he has come out before he attacks Israel, before 2018, and the 10 horned beast (8th) will come before him (before 2015) So we don't have much time to play with. All is moving so fast now, and evil is escalating at the fastest rate. Everything I said is according to scripture, and not invented. I have quoted these scriptures before but some were too busy calling me a liar, that they didn't consider those scriptures.
But what people also don't realise, is that if we die before then, our time is up anyway, and he comes when we don't expect him, as a thief in the night. (unexpectedly)
Nobody knows what the hour of their death is going to be, so they don't know the hour of his coming… for them personally….but obviously this is different from “the coming” and judgement on Babylon the Great.
I hope I have answered your question now?.
this is what I have answered to it ;
Quote Group: Regular Members
Posts: 17310
Joined: Oct. 2009
Posted: Dec. 16 2012,08:04
J42Quote
There are clues here and there in the OT. One clue is that Israel are given 70 years to serve the king of Babylon, They have been serving him for longer than this, but for the LAST FINAL time they serve the king of Babylon(Satan) has to start somewhere?were in scriptures does it say that the 70 year of bondage for Israel corruption by Babylon as to be repeated in our time
Quote
The false prophet will lead for a total of 6.49 years, so he has come out before he attacks Israel, before 2018, and the 10 horned beast (8th) will come before him (before 2015) So we don't have much time to play with. All is moving so fast now, and evil is escalating at the fastest rate. Everything I said is according to scripture, and not invented. I have quoted these scriptures before but some were too busy calling me a liar, that they didn't consider those scriptures.now still continue from the destruction of Jerusalem and the devastation of Israel ,in 70 ad, THIS ACTION BY GOD ALMITHY ,AS MADE ISRAEL FINAL REJECTION BY GOD HIMSELF FOR ALL WHAT THEY HAVE DONE ;NOW JESUS ALSO PREDICTED THE CHANGE IN THE WORSHIP ,BY WHAT HE TELL THE SAMARITAIN WOMEN Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
AND ;;Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”AS YOU CAN SEE JESUS DOES NOT SEPARATE THE JEWS FROM ANY OTHER WORSHIPER ,SO IT MEANS ALL WORSHIPERS.
THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM INCLUDING ALL THE TEMPLE AND HIS ATTACHED BUILDING SHOWN THE FINAL DIVORCE FROM GOD AND ISRAEL AS A NATION WERE GOD AS HIS NAME ON, SO ISRAEL AS NOTHING LEFT THAT MAY REBUILT THAT CONNECTION ,BUT THE PROMISE THAT GOD MADE IS MADE TO ALL INCLUDING THE NATION OF ISRAEL AND SO THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REJECTED BUT ARE SAVED ON THE SAME BASES THAN THE GENTILS ,(PAUL EXPLAIN THIS THROUGH HIS LETTERS)
SO IN VIEW OF THOSE UNDERSTANDING IN SCRIPTURES YOUR DATES ARE VOID AND OF NO VALUE ,ALSO GOD DOES NOT CARE OF WHAT MEN DOES BECAUSE HE IS ALSO CONTROLING THEIR ROAD BUT THE OUTCOME WILL BE HIS WILL ,AND HIS WILL HIS LAYED OUT IN PROPHECIES THIS IS TRUE ,BUT WE HAVE TO SEE THE PROPHECIES NOT ACCORDING TO THE FLESH BUT ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT ,
AND ALSO TO THE TRUE BELIEVER THAT KNOWS HIS GOD ,AND THE SON ,IT DOES NOT MATTER WEN THE SON RETURN ,BECAUSE HE IS WORKING FOR THE SON AND SO WILL NOT BE FOUND NAKED WHEN HE COMES ,
AN TRUE CHRISTIAN IS NEVER MOVED BY FEAR ,HE KNOWS THAT GOD HIS ON HIS SIDE THE SON HAS IT MADE KNOWN TO HIM.
and then added this question;
Quote j42 the false prophet ,were is this mention in scriptures
then devo shows up
you show up congratulate him and j42 so now you form a coalition of three ,but you only can deny the scriptures I showed you by cheap comments not by scriptures ,and that is my point ,
I will not trust sush a person in truth ,and I will do all I can not to be dragged into it ,
Gods truth as to stand on his own ,even if you think it may fall like Huzzah
Pierre,You can see here we have attempted to answer your question many times. You were not clear with your question at first.
When you ask us when do we think it will happen, are you expecting a date or something? We can only go by the signs. I tried to show you that when the 144,000 are sealed, this will happen just before the plagues start. For the angels are told to hold back the four winds until the servants are sealed.The plagues cannot start until the 10 horned beast shows himself and the false prophet emerges out of them as their leader.
When these prophesies happen, then things will start moving quickly.We know the 144,000 are sealed before the plagues. They are alive at the time, because the plagues will not touch them as it seems according to the scriptures with the 5th angel.
So we are not told exactly when, but we know it's before the 7 trumpets blow. And if you have been watching the signs Christ gave us, you should know which stage we are up to right now and what comes next.
j42
Quote So we are not told exactly when, but we know it's before the 7 trumpets blow so you don't know ,but like everyone just try to make sense with the scriptures prophecies ,right
?Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2013,13:02) j42 Quote So we are not told exactly when, but we know it's before the 7 trumpets blow so you don't know ,but like everyone just try to make sense with the scriptures prophecies ,right
?
Pierre,Did you just hear what I said to you?
I have a better idea than you do, but I am not going to give you what year. I know the year that false prophet will show his face, but I don't know exactly when God will seal his servants. I already told you, before the plagues. When exactly God seals his servants is up to him, but it must be before the 7 trumpets.
If you know yourself, more than what has been revealed to us, then why don't you share it?
Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 02 2013,08:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2013,13:02) j42 Quote So we are not told exactly when, but we know it's before the 7 trumpets blow so you don't know ,but like everyone just try to make sense with the scriptures prophecies ,right
?
Pierre,Did you just hear what I said to you?
I have a better idea than you do, but I am not going to give you what year. I know the year that false prophet will show his face, but I don't know exactly when God will seal his servants. I already told you, before the plagues. When exactly God seals his servants is up to him, but it must be before the 7 trumpets.
If you know yourself, more than what has been revealed to us, then why don't you share it?
Quote If you know yourself, more than what has been revealed to us, then why don't you share it? sorry ,you will have to do without me ,on this ,you are three of a kind ,and you do not see it the way I do ,but you can go about your way and believe ,
it does not bothers me as long you do not claim it as godly truth ,only claim it your truth ,I can go along there ,
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