1John 5:7

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
Is this written or just your opinion?

1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”, “The Word” and “Jesus”.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,13:53)

Hi Ed, Is this written or just your opinion? 1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”.

Hi Nick, here is the title of the thread:
For 1John 5:7 to be authentic: it should read…

1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
Yes it is your opinion.

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Best to follow Jesus through the water, the blood and into the Spirit
and have the witnesses in heaven.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,20:18)

Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2012,13:16) Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,20:11) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,12:45) Hi ED, You have reinterpreted the KJV to suit your current ideas? Why? Hi Nick, that is what the bible is saying; do you doubt it? Most people understand The Bible with the understanding of a man. (Isaiah 55:7-11) “The Bible” is best understood in much the same way “Optics” are understood. What I mean is: “The Bible” must be understood as “a whole”, Gen. to Rev. But how is this done? Let us use “Optics” as a comparative example; OK? The closer you look at something, the less that can be seen in the field of view. And likewise, the focus of detail is lost with the greater field of view. I hope you are getting all this? This is quite a conundrum, as you can only read one Bible verse at a time. Consider what it would take to make a map without the advent of aerial photography? First you must understand each and every section of terrain. And then fit all sections of terrain by scale into their respective positions. Scale is imperative to the whole. But in order to fit all the sections by scale into the whole, “The Big Picture” has to be clearly understood in the mapmakers mind; then all the pieces will fit! When beginners start to read The Scriptures they don’t understand what “God” wants them to, because of what the ‘systems of religion’ taught them. If they have been baptized with The “HolySpirit” and are open to His teachings, then they will be like a skilled mapmaker understanding the terrain of God’s Word! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj wrong, many interpret the scriptures from their own view point and that's were they all goofed and you too Hi Pierre, Are you denying that 1John 5:7 was added to Scripture? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

I believe this is a good scripture ,but it is your interpretation of that scripture that make me sick

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2012,15:17)

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,20:18) Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2012,13:16) Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,20:11) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,12:45) Hi ED, You have reinterpreted the KJV to suit your current ideas? Why? Hi Nick, that is what the bible is saying; do you doubt it? Most people understand The Bible with the understanding of a man. (Isaiah 55:7-11) “The Bible” is best understood in much the same way “Optics” are understood. What I mean is: “The Bible” must be understood as “a whole”, Gen. to Rev. But how is this done? Let us use “Optics” as a comparative example; OK? The closer you look at something, the less that can be seen in the field of view. And likewise, the focus of detail is lost with the greater field of view. I hope you are getting all this? This is quite a conundrum, as you can only read one Bible verse at a time. Consider what it would take to make a map without the advent of aerial photography? First you must understand each and every section of terrain. And then fit all sections of terrain by scale into their respective positions. Scale is imperative to the whole. But in order to fit all the sections by scale into the whole, “The Big Picture” has to be clearly understood in the mapmakers mind; then all the pieces will fit! When beginners start to read The Scriptures they don’t understand what “God” wants them to, because of what the ‘systems of religion’ taught them. If they have been baptized with The “HolySpirit” and are open to His teachings, then they will be like a skilled mapmaker understanding the terrain of God’s Word! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj wrong, many interpret the scriptures from their own view point and that's were they all goofed and you too Hi Pierre, Are you denying that 1John 5:7 was added to Scripture? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj I believe this is a good scripture ,but it is your interpretation of that scripture that make me sick

Pierre,

Most here at H-net are aware that 1John 5:7 was added
to Scripture; why are you not aware of this “FACT”?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
1Jn5
KJV
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

NASB
1 John 5
5 Whoever believes that Jesus is the [a]Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the [c]Father loves the child [d]born of Him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and [e]observe His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome. 4 For whatever is [f] born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

5 Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? 6 This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not [g]with the water only, but [h]with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 7 For there are three that testify: 8 [j]the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are [k]in agreement.

[Ed J]

Yes Nick,

The translators of the N.A.S.B. were also aware that 1John 5:7 was added.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
I think the verse was ADDED TO was it not?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,14:06)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,13:53) Hi Ed, Is this written or just your opinion? 1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”. Hi Nick, here is the title of the thread: For 1John 5:7 to be authentic: it should read… 1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDj.

Use the king james Ed. seriously.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,15:44)

Hi ED, I think the verse was ADDED TO was it not?

Hi Nick,

Huh?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
The second part of the verse was added in the kjv?

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 29 2012,15:44)

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,14:06) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,13:53) Hi Ed, Is this written or just your opinion? 1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”. Hi Nick, here is the title of the thread: For 1John 5:7 to be authentic: it should read… 1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. Use the king james Ed. seriously. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

The “AKJV Bible” is the only English bible I use.
I only look at the other versions for comparisons.

I ain't limited to the “AKJV Bible” for my study, I also go
back to the Hebrew Masoretic texts and the Textus Receptus.

The more advanced bible scholar will look to the original languages.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,16:03)

Hi Ed, The second part of the verse was added in the kjv?

Hi Nick, sorry to be technical, but…

Robert Stephanos numbered the N.T. verses in 1550-1551.
The wording was added to the text, not added to the verse.

The entirety of what is written in 1John 5:7 was added.
The N.A.S.B. put something there while the N.I.V. did not.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,22:24)

Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2012,15:17) Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,20:18) Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2012,13:16) Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,20:11) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,12:45) Hi ED, You have reinterpreted the KJV to suit your current ideas? Why? Hi Nick, that is what the bible is saying; do you doubt it? Most people understand The Bible with the understanding of a man. (Isaiah 55:7-11) “The Bible” is best understood in much the same way “Optics” are understood. What I mean is: “The Bible” must be understood as “a whole”, Gen. to Rev. But how is this done? Let us use “Optics” as a comparative example; OK? The closer you look at something, the less that can be seen in the field of view. And likewise, the focus of detail is lost with the greater field of view. I hope you are getting all this? This is quite a conundrum, as you can only read one Bible verse at a time. Consider what it would take to make a map without the advent of aerial photography? First you must understand each and every section of terrain. And then fit all sections of terrain by scale into their respective positions. Scale is imperative to the whole. But in order to fit all the sections by scale into the whole, “The Big Picture” has to be clearly understood in the mapmakers mind; then all the pieces will fit! When beginners start to read The Scriptures they don’t understand what “God” wants them to, because of what the ‘systems of religion’ taught them. If they have been baptized with The “HolySpirit” and are open to His teachings, then they will be like a skilled mapmaker understanding the terrain of God’s Word! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj wrong, many interpret the scriptures from their own view point and that's were they all goofed and you too Hi Pierre, Are you denying that 1John 5:7 was added to Scripture? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj I believe this is a good scripture ,but it is your interpretation of that scripture that make me sick Pierre, Most here at H-net are aware that 1John 5:7 was added to Scripture; why are you not aware of this “FACT”? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj

That's basically you ??

I think it is true

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Interesting.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,16:03)

Hi Ed, The second part of the verse was added in the kjv?

Nick.

Why is it so? and who says.
The second part is the brief explanation of the conversation.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,16:18)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,16:03) Hi Ed, The second part of the verse was added in the kjv? Hi Nick, sorry to be technical, but… Robert Stephanos numbered the N.T. verses in 1550-1551. The wording was added to the text, not added to the verse. The entirety of what is written in 1John 5:7 was added. The N.A.S.B. put something there while the N.I.V. did not. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Nick,

Also know Robert Stephanos scribed the “Textus Receptus”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,16:23)

Hi ED, Interesting.

Nick.

Do you notice that John3:6 is also in red lettering?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

all

I believe that those scriptures are saying the truth;

1Jn 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
1Jn 5:6 This is the one who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that testify:
1Jn 5:8 the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
1Jn 5:9 We accept man’s testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son.
1Jn 5:10 Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son.
1Jn 5:11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

but it is you guys who can not understand what it says and are dull as far as the truth of God

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