1John 5:7

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
yes a corruption was added to scripture in the kjv.
Your version is different to the kjv too.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,09:42)

Hi ED, yes a corruption was added to scripture in the kjv. Your version is different to the kjv too.

Hi Nick,

Yes, lining up with Scripture is better; is it not?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,09:42)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 29 2012,09:36) Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,09:17) Hi Wakeup,  for 1John 5:7 to authentic: it should read… 1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”. עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness) Edj. What translation do you use? wakeup. Hi Wake-up, I go by the original manuscripts. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

That translation does not make sense.
The king james is the best translation,the later the translation the worse it gets.(satan is at work 24/7).

There are three -IN-heaven.

And there are three -IN-EARTH.

NOT THREE -FROM- HEAVEN AND THREE -IN- EARTH.

These small mistranslations can change the whole meaning.
Watch for satans wicked works,he has infiltrated all the holy things of God.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
In your mind yes.
But what was written is better

[Ed J]

Hi Wake-up,

“Forever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.” (Psalms 119:89)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,10:04)

Hi Wake-up, “Forever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.” (Psalms 119:89) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

God's word, however, is heavily disputed on Earth, needing “Three witnesses” to establish the matter!

“At the mouth of three witnesses,
  shall the matter be established.”  (Deut 19:15)

1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”, “The Word” and “Jesus”.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,10:10)

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,10:04) Hi Wake-up, “Forever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.” (Psalms 119:89) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org God's word, however, is heavily disputed on Earth, needing “Three witnesses” to establish the matter! “At the mouth of three witnesses,   shall the matter be established.”  (Deut 19:15) 1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”.

EDj.

The word came to earth to fulfill the old prophesies.
God is his witness,Jesus is a witness,and the truth is a witness.

The water, the blood, and the spirit,is a witness of his birth,for he is flesh,and his death; he truly died on the cross.

The word of God is like a two edged sword,piercing through bone and marrow.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 29 2012,17:49)

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,10:10) Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,10:04) Hi Wake-up, “Forever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.” (Psalms 119:89) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org God's word, however, is heavily disputed on Earth, needing “Three witnesses” to establish the matter! “At the mouth of three witnesses,   shall the matter be established.”  (Deut 19:15) 1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”. EDj. The word came to earth to fulfill the old prophesies. God is his witness,Jesus is a witness,and the truth is a witness. The water,  the blood, and the spirit,is a witness of his birth,for he is flesh,and his death; he truly died on the cross. The word of God is like a two edged sword,piercing through bone and marrow. wakeup.

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The water, the blood, and the spirit,is a witness of his birth,for he is flesh,and his death; he truly died on the cross.

were in scriptures does it say this ?

religion bla,bla ,bla

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 29 2012,10:49)

EDj. (1)God is his witness,(2)Jesus is a witness,(3)and the truth is a witness. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

That is what I have been syaing, why are you acting as if I haven't?
“The Truth” is the word of God, do you not believe this?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 29 2012,10:49)

EDj. The word came to earth to fulfill the old prophesies. wakeup.

Hi Wake-up,

The prophecies of old are “The Word”, Are you suggesting they are not “The Word”?
Psalms 68:11 The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 29 2012,10:49)

EDj. The water,  the blood, and the spirit,is a witness of his birth,for he is flesh,and his death; he truly died on the cross. wakeup.

Hi Wake-up, close…

The water, the blood, and the spirit are witness of Jesus' birth, death, and resurrection.
But this does not preclude ↓the other↓ , as Scripture is written on more than one level.

                        SPIRIT   –  “The Father”  –    (John 4:24)
                        WATER  –   “The Word”   –    (Eph. 5:26)
                        BLOOD   –     “Jesus”      –    (Acts 20:28)

1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”, “The Word” and “Jesus”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
three baptisms.

Yes the waters of rebirth.
Yes baptism in the Spirit.
Yes the baptism of blood.

we need the same three witnesses.

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

Have you noticed how both you and Wake-up have changed
the order to match your preconceived ideas of truth?

             Wake-up: water, blood, spirit
                Nick: water, spirit, blood

            Scripture: spirit, water, blood.

    SPIRIT   –  “The Father”  –    (John 4:24)
    WATER  –   “The Word”   –    (Eph. 5:26)
    BLOOD   –     “Jesus”      –    (Acts 20:28)

1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”,  “The Word”  and  “Jesus”.

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
You have reinterpreted the KJV to suit your current ideas?
Why?

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,12:45)

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,12:43) Hi Nick, Have you noticed how both you and Wake-up have changed the order to match your preconceived ideas of truth?               Hi ED, You have reinterpreted the KJV to suit your current ideas? Why?

Hi Nick,

Is that a tactic: to turn the same question presented to you back on me?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,12:45)

Hi ED, You have reinterpreted the KJV to suit your current ideas? Why?

Hi Nick, that is what the bible is saying; do you doubt it?

Most people understand The Bible with the understanding of a man. (Isaiah 55:7-11)
“The Bible” is best understood in much the same way “Optics” are understood.
What I mean is: “The Bible” must be understood as “a whole”, Gen. to Rev.

But how is this done? Let us use “Optics” as a comparative example; OK?
The closer you look at something, the less that can be seen in the field of view.
And likewise, the focus of detail is lost with the greater field of view. I hope you are
getting all this? This is quite a conundrum, as you can only read one Bible verse at a time.

Consider what it would take to make a map without the advent of aerial photography?
First you must understand each and every section of terrain. And then fit all sections
of terrain by scale into their respective positions. Scale is imperative to the whole.
But in order to fit all the sections by scale into the whole, “The Big Picture” has
to be clearly understood in the mapmakers mind; then all the pieces will fit!

When beginners start to read The Scriptures they don’t understand what
“God” wants them to, because of what the ‘systems of religion’ taught them.
If they have been baptized with The “HolySpirit” and are open to His teachings,
then they will be like a skilled mapmaker understanding the terrain of God’s Word!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
But opinion does not add much to scripture does it?

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,13:13)

Hi Ed, But opinion does not add much to scripture does it?

Hi Nick,

What do you mean?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,20:11)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,12:45) Hi ED, You have reinterpreted the KJV to suit your current ideas? Why? Hi Nick, that is what the bible is saying; do you doubt it? Most people understand The Bible with the understanding of a man. (Isaiah 55:7-11) “The Bible” is best understood in much the same way “Optics” are understood. What I mean is: “The Bible” must be understood as “a whole”, Gen. to Rev. But how is this done? Let us use “Optics” as a comparative example; OK? The closer you look at something, the less that can be seen in the field of view. And likewise, the focus of detail is lost with the greater field of view. I hope you are getting all this? This is quite a conundrum, as you can only read one Bible verse at a time. Consider what it would take to make a map without the advent of aerial photography? First you must understand each and every section of terrain. And then fit all sections of terrain by scale into their respective positions. Scale is imperative to the whole. But in order to fit all the sections by scale into the whole, “The Big Picture” has to be clearly understood in the mapmakers mind; then all the pieces will fit! When beginners start to read The Scriptures they don’t understand what “God” wants them to, because of what the ‘systems of religion’ taught them. If they have been baptized with The “HolySpirit” and are open to His teachings, then they will be like a skilled mapmaker understanding the terrain of God’s Word! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

wrong, many interpret the scriptures from their own view point and that's were they all goofed and you too

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2012,13:16)

Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,20:11) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,12:45) Hi ED, You have reinterpreted the KJV to suit your current ideas? Why? Hi Nick, that is what the bible is saying; do you doubt it? Most people understand The Bible with the understanding of a man. (Isaiah 55:7-11) “The Bible” is best understood in much the same way “Optics” are understood. What I mean is: “The Bible” must be understood as “a whole”, Gen. to Rev. But how is this done? Let us use “Optics” as a comparative example; OK? The closer you look at something, the less that can be seen in the field of view. And likewise, the focus of detail is lost with the greater field of view. I hope you are getting all this? This is quite a conundrum, as you can only read one Bible verse at a time. Consider what it would take to make a map without the advent of aerial photography? First you must understand each and every section of terrain. And then fit all sections of terrain by scale into their respective positions. Scale is imperative to the whole. But in order to fit all the sections by scale into the whole, “The Big Picture” has to be clearly understood in the mapmakers mind; then all the pieces will fit! When beginners start to read The Scriptures they don’t understand what “God” wants them to, because of what the ‘systems of religion’ taught them. If they have been baptized with The “HolySpirit” and are open to His teachings, then they will be like a skilled mapmaker understanding the terrain of God’s Word! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj wrong, many interpret the scriptures from their own view point and that's were they all goofed and you too

Hi Pierre,

Are you denying that 1John 5:7 was added to Scripture?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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