‘i am’ is lucifer’s ‘title’

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2012,20:44)

Hi WU, Those who have been born again have a Father in heaven.

Nick.

I agree with you in this.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2012,06:49)

Hi ED, Where does Job 38 say all the angels are sons of God?

Hi Nick,

“When the morning stars sang together, and
all the sons of God shouted for joy” (Job 38:7)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2012,10:08)

Hi ED, You say about yourself “Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH “ Then you had better repent and teach what scripture teaches.

Hi Nick, that is the case, you have not demonstrated otherwise.

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,

That does not say all the angels.
One third of them were cast from heaven.[Rev12]

There is a heavenly order of authority.
Ps 89.5-8
Archangels, Seraphim, Cherubim and the hosts etc

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2012,10:11)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2012,06:49) Hi ED, Where does Job 38 say all the angels are sons of God? Sons of God are led by the Spirit of God[rom8] but one third of the angels are thrown from heaven with the Devil.[Rev 12] Nick. The angels are created by God,therefore they are the sons of God. We humans are all created by God,and therefore we are all the sons of God,but there are many that has fallen away from the father,and they are the bad sons,the sinners. Just like the angels,one third has fallen away and they are cast down to earth,to do their work here on earth,to tempt and to cause problems. But God also sends his prophets and his own Son and apostles to teach the good news. For sin must come to the full before it is destroyed. Enoch the 7th from Adam is a WITNESS of the old world before the flood;he said that the angel –gadri-el— is the one that tempted eve.So that is his real name. Lucifer(light bearer) was just a title when he was created,because he was full of wisdom and perfect.He was not just created an angel but the anointed cherup. He had big evil plans in his heart; he wanted to be the top in heaven; like God. After he has made his plan manifest by tempting eve;he is called the rebeller(satan)(also a title) and many other titles. Today we know him as satan the red dragon, and he is worshipped like a god but not by all. He wanted all to worship him,but the true believers in God are his greatest enemies. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

“Gadriel”: where did you get this from?
I did read the entire Book of Enoch, and I
didn't see this name mentioned anywhere in it?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2012,10:40)

Quote (Ed J @ July 09 2010,07:45) ‘i am’ is Lucifer’s ‘title’, systems of religion says otherwise Here are some starting verses, to get this discussion going. 1Tm.1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom i am chief. Job 40:1-5 Moreover the LORD answered Job, and said, Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him?   he that reproveth God, let him answer it. Then Job answered the LORD, and said, Behold, i am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth. Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. (1)To say that I am is lucifers title is blapheming God. (2)I am is only God,(3)none can have that name. (4)What does God mean when he says I AM THAT I AM? wakeup.

Hi Wake-up, I can see that you didn't even make it past the first post in reading this thread! (this is a re-post of the seventh post in this thread)

1) Not so!
2) FALSE, it is 'Lucifer's title'!
3) see Nahum 1:14
4) YHVH never said that! (see my re-post ↓ )

Lucifer is ‘the problem’ that has coerced the AKJV translators to perpetuate
a name-distancing title-substitution, ‘the mother of all deceptions’. Current
divisions of the church trace back to ‘the incorrect’ English translation of
[אהיה אשר אהיה] ěhyäh ăsher ěhyäh. Although the King James transcribers
translated this phrase into ‘I AM THAT I AM’, it is the Greek where this
erroneous phraseology originates. The Septuagint Bible is the first to
use this ‘I AM’ phraseology as {εγω ειμι} in Exodus 3:14. The AKJV
correctly translated [“אהיה”] into English as [“I WILL”] hundreds of times.

The King James translators would have had to transcribe this Hebrew
phrase אהיה אשר אהיה, into “I Will That I Will” or  “I Will What I Will”,
because of the strict “word for word” translating parameters.
Neither of these phrases makes much sense in English, so instead
they derived the English verse from the Greek Septuagint Bible. The English
AKJV transcribers should have translated this phrase אהיה אשר אהיה instead to
“I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE”; but because of the strict parameters, the AKJV
instead mislabeled this future tense TRUTH (“I will become what I will become”),
into a present tense lie {‘I am that I am’}. The phrase ‘I am’ cannot be translated
back into Hebrew. As a matter of fact if the Hebrew doesn’t have a word for something,
they believe that it doesn’t exist. ‘I am’ has become ‘the false god of religion’. (2Thess. 2:4 / Ezekiel 28:2)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
PS. It would be helpful if you actually read this thread!

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2012,19:34)

Hi ED, That does not say all the angels. One third of them were cast from heaven.[Rev12] There is a heavenly order of authority. Ps 89.5-8 Archangels, Seraphim, Cherubim and the hosts etc

Hi Nick,

As Mike has told you before, you need to use your God given logic here Nick.
How could the angels have been cast to Earth before the Earth was even created?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Who said they had been?
That time is close not yet past.

[Ed J]

Hi Nick, try to stay on track with our discussion; OK?

“When the morning stars sang together, and
all the sons of God shouted for joy” (Job 38:7)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Yes.
But ALL angels are not sons of God.

The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God

[Proclaimer]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2010,15:21)

ED J ……….Martian is right the actual Hebrew is He Exists, not I am ,  for the word EVAH .   peace and love…………………..gene

The famous quote: “I think therefore I am” in English means, I think therefore I exist.

[Proclaimer]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 10 2010,03:24)

To all……Back to the thread……….> the word I am has nothing to do with the word Lucifier at all. The word Lucifer means rising star as the king of Babylon was before God cut him down, It has nothing to do with an elusive (BEING) called a devil,or a Satan. Pure apostate teachings. There is (NO) devil or Satan (BEING) GOING AROUND JUMPING IN AND OUT OF people, we are the only adversaries on this earth of GOD,  man is the only Satan there exists on this earth.  Man is the( prince) of the powers of the air (which transfers words ) and rules in high places in the kingdoms of this earth, not some elusive being of some kind but man himself is the adversary or Satan of GOD.  Jodi has rightly posted this, go back and reread it and think about what she said.IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………..gene

Actually I was not aware that you denied the existence of Satan or the Devil. This does explain a lot about you and your teachings.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,19:53)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2012,10:40) Quote (Ed J @ July 09 2010,07:45) ‘i am’ is Lucifer’s ‘title’, systems of religion says otherwise Here are some starting verses, to get this discussion going. 1Tm.1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom i am chief. Job 40:1-5 Moreover the LORD answered Job, and said, Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him?   he that reproveth God, let him answer it. Then Job answered the LORD, and said, Behold, i am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth. Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. (1)To say that I am is lucifers title is blapheming God. (2)I am is only God,(3)none can have that name. (4)What does God mean when he says I AM THAT I AM? wakeup. Hi Wake-up, I can see that you didn't even make it past the first post in reading this thread! (this is a re-post of the seventh post in this thread) 1) Not so! 2) FALSE, it is 'Lucifer's title'! 3) see Nahum 1:14 4) YHVH never said that! (see my re-post ↓ ) Lucifer is ‘the problem’ that has coerced the AKJV translators to perpetuate a name-distancing title-substitution, ‘the mother of all deceptions’. Current divisions of the church trace back to ‘the incorrect’ English translation of [אהיה אשר אהיה] ěhyäh ăsher ěhyäh. Although the King James transcribers translated this phrase into ‘I AM THAT I AM’, it is the Greek where this erroneous phraseology originates. The Septuagint Bible is the first to use this ‘I AM’ phraseology as {εγω ειμι} in Exodus 3:14. The AKJV correctly translated [“אהיה”] into English as [“I WILL”] hundreds of times. The King James translators would have had to transcribe this Hebrew phrase אהיה אשר אהיה, into “I Will That I Will” or  “I Will What I Will”, because of the strict “word for word” translating parameters. Neither of these phrases makes much sense in English, so instead they derived the English verse from the Greek Septuagint Bible. The English AKJV transcribers should have translated this phrase אהיה אשר אהיה instead to “I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE”; but because of the strict parameters, the AKJV instead mislabeled this future tense TRUTH (“I will become what I will become”), into a present tense lie {‘I am that I am’}. The phrase ‘I am’ cannot be translated back into Hebrew. As a matter of fact if the Hebrew doesn’t have a word for something, they believe that it doesn’t exist. ‘I am’ has become ‘the false god of religion’. (2Thess. 2:4 / Ezekiel 28:2) Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org PS. It would be helpful if you actually read this thread!

EDJ.

Is lucifer—– I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE?I AM WHAT I AM?
I AM ALL.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2012,20:44)

EDJ. Is lucifer—– I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE? wakeup.

Hi Wake-up,

YHVH said that, not Lucifer.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2012,20:44)

EDJ. I AM ALL. wakeup.

Hi Wake-up,

What is that suppose to mean?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,20:51)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2012,20:44) EDJ. I AM ALL. wakeup. Hi Wake-up, What is that suppose to mean? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

Thats what God is trying to tell us;I AM ALL. WHAT EVER IT IS I AM.
And lucifer is not I AM.

WAKEUP.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2012,22:19)

Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,20:51) Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2012,20:44) EDJ. I AM ALL. wakeup. Hi Wake-up, What is that suppose to mean? God bless Ed J EDJ. Thats what God is trying to tell us;(1)I AM ALL. (2)WHAT EVER IT IS I AM. (3)And lucifer is not I AM. WAKEUP.

Hio Wakeup,

1) That phrase is not to be found in the bible?
2) 'i am' is the false god of religion.
3) He most certainly is it.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
“2) 'i am' is the false god of religion.”

Only in your opinion.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2012,22:37)

Hi Ed, “2) 'i am' is the false god of religion.” Only in your opinion.

Hi Nick,

“and that man of sin be revealed, the 'son of perdition'(Lucifer);
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is “called God”,
or that is “worshiped”(117); so that he as {i am God} sitteth in the
temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am; and shall deceive many. (Mark 13:6)

“Wilt thou (Lucifer) yet say before him that slayeth thee, i am God?
but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezek 28:9)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2012,22:47)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2012,22:37) Hi Ed, “2) 'i am' is the false god of religion.” Only in your opinion. Hi Nick, “and that man of sin be revealed, the 'son of perdition'(Lucifer); Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is “called God”, or that is “worshiped”(117); so that he as {i am God} sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am; and shall deceive many. (Mark 13:6) “Wilt thou (Lucifer) yet say before him that slayeth thee, i am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.” (Ezek 28:9) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

1Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.”

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