Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

Balancing Rock Girraween

For many Christian denominations, the foundation of their faith is usually a version of the Trinity Doctrine in some form. But is this doctrine really the true foundation of the Church? Let’s take a look at the actual foundation that Jesus Christ built his Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They said, “Some say You are John the Baptist and some say Elijah and others say Jeremiah or one of the early preachers.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this.
18 “And I tell you that you are Peter. On this rock I will build My church. The powers of hell will not be able to have power over My church.

Read the above clearly. Jesus did not build his Church on Peter. He built it on the truth that Peter spoke concerning the true identity of Jesus Christ. And what was that truth? That Jesus is the Son of God and the Christ.

Peter did not say that Jesus was God or one member of a triune God, yet that is the foundation for many. So what is it that tries to fight against the true foundation? Is it not the Gates of Hell that is trying to prevail against this truth. But for what benefit is there to attack the true foundation of the Church, which is the Body of Christ?

Here is the thing. Roman Catholics believe that the foundation was Peter and this is where their line of Popes supposedly comes from. They also believe that the foundation of their faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not only are they wrong, but their fruit over the centuries proves that this tree was not good.

So which is it? The Catholic faith or the true faith?

Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith. However, it is true that this faith and foundation cannot sustain eternally any work built upon her.

For they labour in vain those who build on another foundation.

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:6: for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

He also wrote in Ephesians 4:5-6: one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And Jesus said it so clearly in John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Are you willing to believe the truth about who God is and who Jesus is over any contrary tradition that was passed down to you?

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  • #814010
    terraricca
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    Gene
    why are you puking your ignorance ? the only thing you have is opinions

    #814019
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    TERRARICCA, TELL US HOW YOU FALSE TEACHING AGREE WITH SCRIPTURE, NO THEY DON’T, THEY AGREE WITH YOUR TRINITARIAN BROTHERS, YOU BELIEVE EXACTLY AS THEY DO, AND THAT’S NOT AN OPINION, IT’S, A FACT. YOU LIE AND SAY YOU ARE “NOT A TRINITARIAN ” , PLEASE TELL US IN WHAT WAY YOU ARE NOT?

    NICK, KERWIN, AND I, are trying to get you to start understanding spritual things written in the scriptures but, you seem unable to, that grieves us and that is truly SAD.

    But it does clearly prove this point to us all, “unless the LORD shall build the house, the weary builder, build in vain”.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #814041
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Argue with scripture if you must

    Yes if we are going to argue/debate, then do so with scripture as this helps to validate the argument. But do not argue against it as that is not wise.

    #814045
    NickHassan
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    Hi T

    Did you miss this?

    1Co 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

    #814100
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T

    Did you miss this?

    1Co 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

    Hi Nick,

    Did you miss this?

    “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
    whose goings forth have been from
    of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #814103
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    Yes Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem.

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

    #814105
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    You would suggest the Spirit was born?

    What a nonsense.

     

    Birth belongs to earth and man.

    Rebirth of men is BY the Spirit.

    #814111
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    NICK….Right on, Well said, I couldn’t have said it any better, brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #814113
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    You would suggest the Spirit was born?

    Hi Nick,

    Is our spirit not born?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #814116
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    EDJ…..NO, IT IS GIVEN BY GOD ,AND RETURNS TO HIM WHEN WE DIE. SPIRIT IS WHAT LIFE IS. WITHOUT IT THERE IS NO LIFE.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #814120
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    So we don’t have a spirit when we are born?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #814121
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Yes like Jesus we were born with a human spirit.

    And like him some of us have been reborn of the Holy Spirit.

    #814125
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Your whole work seems to be directed at resurrecting the idea of a demigod we cannot follow.

    Repent of tradition and it’s follies.

    #814131
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    EDJ…..HOW do you get i was saying we don’t have a spirit when we are born, from what i said. we certanly are born with a spirit and a body. We are also born again, with the spirit of GOD, JUST AS JESUS WAS. NO DIFFERENCE.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #814161
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Do you believe Jesus was born “Christ” ?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #814183
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I think he sides with Nick, that Jesus was only flesh and became united with the Spirit at the Jordan, thus the birth of Jesus Christ.

    Of course we should believe the testimony of that angel of YHWH over opinions of Nick and Gene any day. Those two cannot compete with God and his heavenly messengers. Crazy for them to even try. And who in their right mind would stray from the words of a heavenly messenger for the words of mere men.

    #814185
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8….I CERTANILY DO AGREE WITH NICK ON THIS. THE ANGEL WAS TELLING THEM THE ONE THEY WERE LOOKING FOR TO COME WAS BORN, THE BABY JESUS WHO WAS BORN, WAS TO BE THE CHRIST THEY WERE LOOKING FOR TO COME, THAT WAS HIS DESTENY, BUT HE WAS NOT THE ANOUNTED ONE, TILL HE WAS FIRST “ANOINTED” AS THE CHRIST. If you understood what a CHRISTO’S IS you would easly understand this. NO CHRISTO’S IS BORN A CHRISTO’S, ALL BECOME IT, AFTER THEIR ANOINTIBG HAS HAPPENED. FOR JESUS THAT TOOK PLACE AT THE JORDAN RIVER WHEN JOHN BAPTIZED HIM. Do you actual think his baptizem was all for nothing? ‘

    HAD you and PIERRE UNDERSTOOD THIS THEN YOU COULD ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT JOHN WAS SAYING ABOUT THE “ANTICHRISTO’S ” THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THET A MAN, WHO CAME INTO HIS EXISTENCE AS A “FLESH” BEING, CAME TO BE THE “CHRIST”, JUST AS MOSES DID AND JUST AS MOSES SAID WOULD HAPPEN. That God would raise up FROM THEM A PROPHET “JUST” like him, WHY IGNORE WHAT MOSES AND THE PROPHETS SAID REGUARDING JESUS?

    GO ask any Jew, and they will tell you, no one in scriptures was a Christo’s, OR MESSIAH until they were anointed by the spirit of the living God. NO mention in scripture of Jesus doing anything till after he was “anointed” and then he was tested and sent out into the world to preach the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD. Do you think all that was in scripture for no reason?

    YOU as well as Terraricca are preaching tritarian concepts here, rather you realize it or not, makes no difference, you still are.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #814186
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    You seem to have problems understanding what I believe so one more time.

    Concentrate. Or stop being deliberately obstructive.

    Jesus was just flesh?

    Nonsense.

    Jesus of Nazareth was an ordinary man just like you. Body soul and human spirit.

    A human vessel just like you. He was born under the Law and cleansed by obedience to the Law.

    He was reborn of the Holy Spirit at the Jordan just as you are meant to be.

    The anointed man fully expressed all the character and abilities of his Father God.

    You are meant to express some of these too if you have the Spirit.

    Listen to the heavenly messengers with spiritual ears.

     

    #814194
    Ed J
    Participant

    Of course we should believe the testimony of that angel of YHWH over opinions of Nick and Gene any day.

    Hi T8,

    Stop promoting error – there is no “W” sound in ancient Hebrew – that is a corruption![b](Link)[/b]

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #814209
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    EDJ…..SHOW US WHERE THE ANGEL SAID HE WAS “ALREADY” A MESSIAH, YOU CAN’T, THE ANGEL WAS TELLING THEM THAT JESUS WAS THE ONE THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, WHO WOULD BE THE MESSIAH, HE COULDN’T HAVE BEEN THE ACTUALL MESSIAH, BEFORE HE WAS A MAN AND THEN ANOINTED, NO “MESSIAH” WAS EVER ANOINTED AS SUCH AT BERTH. SAYING A PERSON IS BORN AS A MESSIAH IS DENYING , THE WHOLE ROLL OF A MESSIAH, ASK ANY JEW.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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