Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

Balancing Rock Girraween

For many Christian denominations, the foundation of their faith is usually a version of the Trinity Doctrine in some form. But is this doctrine really the true foundation of the Church? Let’s take a look at the actual foundation that Jesus Christ built his Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They said, “Some say You are John the Baptist and some say Elijah and others say Jeremiah or one of the early preachers.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this.
18 “And I tell you that you are Peter. On this rock I will build My church. The powers of hell will not be able to have power over My church.

Read the above clearly. Jesus did not build his Church on Peter. He built it on the truth that Peter spoke concerning the true identity of Jesus Christ. And what was that truth? That Jesus is the Son of God and the Christ.

Peter did not say that Jesus was God or one member of a triune God, yet that is the foundation for many. So what is it that tries to fight against the true foundation? Is it not the Gates of Hell that is trying to prevail against this truth. But for what benefit is there to attack the true foundation of the Church, which is the Body of Christ?

Here is the thing. Roman Catholics believe that the foundation was Peter and this is where their line of Popes supposedly comes from. They also believe that the foundation of their faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not only are they wrong, but their fruit over the centuries proves that this tree was not good.

So which is it? The Catholic faith or the true faith?

Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith. However, it is true that this faith and foundation cannot sustain eternally any work built upon her.

For they labour in vain those who build on another foundation.

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:6: for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

He also wrote in Ephesians 4:5-6: one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And Jesus said it so clearly in John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Are you willing to believe the truth about who God is and who Jesus is over any contrary tradition that was passed down to you?

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  • #812463
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    Are you the only one who is reliant on the scriptures?

    #812477
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    being reliant to scriptures is one thing believing in them is another ,practice what it teaches is another ,now believing that the scriptures are true but with reserve ,this is not believing at all ,or practice some of the things and not the other mean also a divided faith ,

    I do not know if i am the only one ,but if i meet another one we surly be on the same road

    #812558
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    When will you fully believe that God was in Christ and spoke through him?

    #812564
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    I know Christ his not God his father of which he his the son of ;

    so God cannot be in Christ as a being right ?

    but Jesus said ;Jn 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
    Jn 14:7 If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
    Jn 14:8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
    Jn 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
    Jn 14:10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created through him and for him.

    so I believe that God through Christ his son does accomplish what he had said centuries before ,and so the works he does are the works of God but that the son does ,and so the father is in the son accomplishing his will ,

    so it is you that is confused not me

    #812572
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    God was IN CHRIST reconciling the world to Himself.

    Do you believe this?

     

    Gal 4.19

    My children, with whom I am in labor TILL CHRIST IS FORMED IN YOU-

    Do you believe this?

    #812582
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    Hi t,

    God was IN CHRIST reconciling the world to Himself.

    Do you believe this?

    Gal 4.19

    My children, with whom I am in labor TILL CHRIST IS FORMED IN YOU-

    Do you believe this?
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    show me the whole context and then I will accepted it ,you only show a small portion of the scriptures for you like the devil don’t like the whole truth ,

    stop being a deceiver ,and do not try to twist what scriptures are saying

    #812590
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    You have a bible.

    Do your own work.

     

    Then if you can substantiate your accusation of deception do so.

    #812593
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    you ask me the question ,so you provide the whole scriptures on which you base your question on ,

    you have no intention to be truthful this is why you only quote small pieces of the scriptures it is easier to twist and make false claims

    #812596
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Fortunately you can study the scriptures to check things out like the Bereans.

    Then come back and prove your accusations of deception.

    #812598
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi N

    Hi t,

    Fortunately you can study the scriptures to check things out like the Bereans.

    Then come back and prove your accusations of deception.
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    you ask me the question ,so you provide the whole scriptures on which you base your question on ,

    you have no intention to be truthful this is why you only quote small pieces of the scriptures it is easier to twist and make false claims ,amazing

    #812601
    Ed J
    Participant

    hi N

    Hi t,

    Fortunately you can study the scriptures to check things out like the Bereans.

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    you ask me the question ,so you provide the whole scriptures on which you base your question on

    Hi Pierre,

    Nick is right do your own work
    Here is an on-line bible site [b](Link)[/b]

    #812610
    terraricca
    Participant

    duplicat

    #812611
    terraricca
    Participant

    duplicate

    #812612
    terraricca
    Participant

    ED

    your head spins around Nick’s neck no wonder you can’t see anything at all ,you would agree with the devil as well if you did not already ,

    for if you cannot see the truth in scriptures what do you really see in them other than confusion

    I am never joking with the truth ,as it as been written

    #812629
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    It is others who cannot see the truth in scripture?

    You seem to be alone in your worthiness.

    #812633
    Ed J
    Participant

    ED

    your head spins around Nick’s neck no wonder you can’t see anything at all ,you would agree with the devil as well if you did not already ,

    for if you cannot see the truth in scriptures what do you really see in them other than confusion

    I am never joking with the truth ,as it as been written

    Hi Pierre,

    You swallowed what the taskmasters of religion have taught, that’s why YOU are full of confusion.
    Even to the point of wanting to change Scripture to match the view which you have been taught.

    “This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might,
    nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.” (Zech 4:6)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812672
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terraricca. …By asking how did GOD DO IT?, only proves you have no idea that GOD CAN “REAVEAL” INTO OUR MINDS TRUTH, ALSO PROVES YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SPIRITS ARE, AND CAN DO. JESUS SAID GOD IS A SPIRIT, AND ALSO SAID HE WAS “IN” HIM. You can’t understand that it seems, so no wonder you can’t agree with us, and with WHAT JESUS CLEARLY SAID over and over, THINGS LIKE THE FATHER IS “IN” ME HE CLEARLY SAID , BUT YOU DO NOT SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT GOD THE FATHER WAS TRULY “IN” JESUS. So YOU NOT only deny WHAT JESUS SAID, BUT WHAT WE ARE TELLING YOU ALSO.

    ASK FOR THE SPIRIT OF GOD SO YOU MAY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TELLING YOU.

    peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

    #812684
    terraricca
    Participant

    Ed

    Hi Pierre,

    You swallowed what the taskmasters of religion have taught, that’s why YOU are full of confusion.
    Even to the point of wanting to change Scripture to match the view which you have been taught.

    “This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might,
    nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.” (Zech 4:6)

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    you quote a scripture that is so true that it is in fact the judgement in full of God but that you cannot see ,Why ? for you insult those that can see ,and don’t care if you can see ,

    I did not find one religion that teaches the truth in scriptures so you are wrong about me all of the way ,

    you cannot prove anything false I said ,why ? but I can do this about you ,for you don’t believe in the scriptures ,

    #812685
    terraricca
    Participant

    GENE

    YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT ;

    #812724
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Seeing is claimed by many.

    But few can see spiritual things

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