Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

Balancing Rock Girraween

For many Christian denominations, the foundation of their faith is usually a version of the Trinity Doctrine in some form. But is this doctrine really the true foundation of the Church? Let’s take a look at the actual foundation that Jesus Christ built his Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They said, “Some say You are John the Baptist and some say Elijah and others say Jeremiah or one of the early preachers.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this.
18 “And I tell you that you are Peter. On this rock I will build My church. The powers of hell will not be able to have power over My church.

Read the above clearly. Jesus did not build his Church on Peter. He built it on the truth that Peter spoke concerning the true identity of Jesus Christ. And what was that truth? That Jesus is the Son of God and the Christ.

Peter did not say that Jesus was God or one member of a triune God, yet that is the foundation for many. So what is it that tries to fight against the true foundation? Is it not the Gates of Hell that is trying to prevail against this truth. But for what benefit is there to attack the true foundation of the Church, which is the Body of Christ?

Here is the thing. Roman Catholics believe that the foundation was Peter and this is where their line of Popes supposedly comes from. They also believe that the foundation of their faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not only are they wrong, but their fruit over the centuries proves that this tree was not good.

So which is it? The Catholic faith or the true faith?

Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith. However, it is true that this faith and foundation cannot sustain eternally any work built upon her.

For they labour in vain those who build on another foundation.

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:6: for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

He also wrote in Ephesians 4:5-6: one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And Jesus said it so clearly in John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Are you willing to believe the truth about who God is and who Jesus is over any contrary tradition that was passed down to you?

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  • #812132
    Ed J
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    Hi T,

    You offer pages of scripture with no understanding.

    Build on the rock that Jesus offers.

    Yes Nick,

    Pierre quotes a bunch of text from a corrupt biblical source
    with no explanation of what he wants us to get out of it.

    I totally agree with you!

    ________________
    Your brother
    in Christ
    Ed J

    #812134
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    NICK….I also agree with you, he gives many scriptures without any explanation what they are truly saying. But i believe Pierre truly believes in what he is doing and saying, perhaps he just doesn’t understand what we are saying, we must all also realize he does suffer from a language bayer, he might just be misunderstanding us, or we him, i hope so. My hope an PRAYER is that GOD THE FATHER WILL OPEN HIS MIND TO THE TRUTH. He could make a strong advocate for the KINGDOM OF GOD. IMO

    peace and love to you and ……..gene

    #812142
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick/ED/Gene

    if I show scriptures it is for you to read for it answer the question on hand ,why you ask me to explain what the scriptures explain fully ?

    #812152
    Ed J
    Participant

    Nick/ED/Gene

    if I show scriptures it is for you to read for it answer the question on hand ,why you ask me to explain what the scriptures explain fully ?

    Because we don’t see what you are claiming, even written in the verses of the corrupt NIV that you post.

    #812157
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    And if we do not reach the same carnal conclusions you reach you get mad.

    What gives?

    #812158
    terraricca
    Participant

    ED

    you can read it in the KJV it would be al,most the same but the true message is perfect in all versions

    #812162
    Ed J
    Participant

    “but the true message is perfect in all versions”

    FALSE!

    #812163
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    But you never seem to grasp it.

    Tradition holds you fast

    #812164
    Ed J
    Participant

    “but the true message is perfect in all versions”

    FALSE!

    “And God hath set some in the church” (AKJV Bible: 1 Cor 12:28)

    “And God has assigned the respective ones in the congregation” (NWT: 1 Cor 12:28)

    Is the part I quoted of 1 Cor 12:28 saying the same thing? y/n’
    (remember “I don’t know” is also an acceptable answer)

    #812166
    terraricca
    Participant

    ED

    those scriptures are not the message I really don’t care ,the truth can be found in the context and the rest of the scriptures ,

    #812176
    Ed J
    Participant

    Is that a “No” or a “Yes” ?

    #812185
    terraricca
    Participant

    ED

    why are you always looking for the stupid answers ?

    if you looking for transport to go some where what has the color of the transport vehicle to do with anything ?

    #812186
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    Hi t,

    And if we do not reach the same carnal conclusions you reach you get mad.

    What gives?
    =========================================================================

    no,Nick I don’t get mad, and you can as you have always done follow your own view ,I just follow the scriptures ,so far you haven’t be able to show me that I was wrong

    you have proven that you need to explain the scriptures to make them fit your views ,thing that I do not do .

    #812187
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terraricca…..Whose truth ,yours or the truth of GOD, GIVEN TO US FROM THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH. YOU “QUOTE A BUNCK OF SCRIPTURES THAT MOST OF THE TIME HAS “NOTHING” TO DO WITH TGE SUBJECT MATTER, AND EVEN WORSE YOU FAIL TO EVEN EXPLAN HOW THEY DO RELATE TO IT.

    DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK COPING scripture after scripture without any explanation make you some how of GOD? WE CAN TURN ON OUR TV’S AND GET HUNDERED OF DECIEVED PREACHERS DOING The SAME THING. Acting like because they hold a bible they know what they are talking about, decieving not only themselves but every one thats listening to them.

    Try to be more “specific” and to the point about what we are talking about, your only making yourself appear ignorant by typing out tons of scriptures that have nothing to do with the actual subject being descussed. IMO

    SORRY IF I HAVE offended you PIERRE, BUT PLEASE TRY TO BE MORE SPECIFIC to the subjects we are talking about BROTHER. OK

    peace and love to you and yours …….gene

    #812189
    terraricca
    Participant

    Gene

    for every claim you make show me the scriptures that you base yourself on

    #812198
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    But you resist every attempt to show you scriptures.

    Tradition opposes the Spirit.

    #812201
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    why are you lying to me and others ?;

    you hardly put any scriptures on your answers and in some cases you only quote the chapt;verse, but nothing else ,and when checked the scriptures you quote does not support your claim ,

    you are the follower of man tradition like the pharisees ,if you would have truth you would fear no one for no one can stand against the truth of God only can join it

    #812205
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Yes you are easily confused.

    #812206
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    What point is there in offering scriptures to someone in denial?

    #812209
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    you are a fake believer for the real reason why you don’t quote the scriptures is only because you cannot explain them in the truth ,so you don’t use them

    your faith is with the unbelievers ,

    and for your info I am not confused ;but you try to confuse me but i am not confused

    Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
    Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

    in those two verses John made two claims 1) Jesus was with God in the beginning ;do you believe that Jesus was with God as a being ,for John specically talks about the man Jesus ,not a spirit

    2) he tells that “ALL THINGS WERE MADE THROUGH HIM ” DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT jOHN SAYS HERE ?

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