Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

Balancing Rock Girraween

For many Christian denominations, the foundation of their faith is usually a version of the Trinity Doctrine in some form. But is this doctrine really the true foundation of the Church? Let’s take a look at the actual foundation that Jesus Christ built his Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They said, “Some say You are John the Baptist and some say Elijah and others say Jeremiah or one of the early preachers.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this.
18 “And I tell you that you are Peter. On this rock I will build My church. The powers of hell will not be able to have power over My church.

Read the above clearly. Jesus did not build his Church on Peter. He built it on the truth that Peter spoke concerning the true identity of Jesus Christ. And what was that truth? That Jesus is the Son of God and the Christ.

Peter did not say that Jesus was God or one member of a triune God, yet that is the foundation for many. So what is it that tries to fight against the true foundation? Is it not the Gates of Hell that is trying to prevail against this truth. But for what benefit is there to attack the true foundation of the Church, which is the Body of Christ?

Here is the thing. Roman Catholics believe that the foundation was Peter and this is where their line of Popes supposedly comes from. They also believe that the foundation of their faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not only are they wrong, but their fruit over the centuries proves that this tree was not good.

So which is it? The Catholic faith or the true faith?

Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith. However, it is true that this faith and foundation cannot sustain eternally any work built upon her.

For they labour in vain those who build on another foundation.

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:6: for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

He also wrote in Ephesians 4:5-6: one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And Jesus said it so clearly in John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Are you willing to believe the truth about who God is and who Jesus is over any contrary tradition that was passed down to you?

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  • #810207
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Yes.

    Jesus Christ was speaking to John.

    How does that affect your claims about the first verse?

    Many speak to John in Revelation.

    #810208
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    If preserving your reputation is vital why would you go down these rabbit holes?

    #810220
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..It’s not vital, it was just interesting how the GREEK LINEAR I READ PUT IT, no big deal brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #810534
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    T8…..I AM NOT FLIP FLOPING, BOTTON LINE IS, Jesus was referencing GOD THE FATHER, AS THE ROCK, WHICH IS THE POWER, HE WOULD BUILD THE CHURCH BY. ROCK, POWER, ALL REFERENCE ONE GOD. Your effort to muddy the waters of truth changes nothing.

    So hearing God is not that rock then?

    #810800
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    Peter spoke what he had been taught by the Spirit.

    Jesus rejoiced and built his church on that development.

    #810928
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8…..Anyone who has the spirit of God in them will say the samething Peter said, because the SPIRIT WILL ALSO REAVEAL IT UNTO THEM. GOD THE FATHER IS THE “ROCK”, JESUS BUILDS THE CHURCH ON. Just as he said he would. Why do you continue to rob God of “HIS” WORK IN HUMANITY?

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #810940
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Paul said

    I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.

     

    Could Jesus Christ have said the same or was he different?

    #811678
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    T8…..Anyone who has the spirit of God in them will say the samething Peter said, because the SPIRIT WILL ALSO REAVEAL IT UNTO THEM. GOD THE FATHER IS THE “ROCK”, JESUS BUILDS THE CHURCH ON. Just as he said he would. Why do you continue to rob God of “HIS” WORK IN HUMANITY?

    So when Jesus replied to Peter, he WASN’T saying that Jesus being the son of God and the messiah was that rock?

    #811679
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Paul said

    I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.

    Could Jesus Christ have said the same or was he different?

    Yes it is only because of God that anything is possible. Even Jesus spoke what HE heard the Father speak.

    He did the Father’s will. He said, “not my will but your will…”.

    Anything else you need help with? I am here to help.

    #811702
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8….No he wasn’t , he was telling Peter that it was GOD THE FATHER WHO “REAVEALED” that “TRUTH” UNTO HIM, an JESUS said he “also” know who PETER WAS BY THAT SAME “REVELATION” FROM GOD, and he then said to PETER THAT, THE POWER OF GOD TO “REAVEAL” in the minds of people who JESUS is, was THE “ROCK”, that he would “use” to build the church.

    Why can’t you understand that T8?

    peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #811958
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi

    Hab 1:5 “Look at the nations and watch—
    and be utterly amazed.
    For I am going to do something in your days
    that you would not believe,
    even if you were told.
    Hab 1:6 I am raising up the Babylonians,
    that ruthless and impetuous people,
    who sweep across the whole earth
    to seize dwelling places not their own.
    Hab 1:7 They are a feared and dreaded people;
    they are a law to themselves
    and promote their own honor.
    Hab 1:8 Their horses are swifter than leopards,
    fiercer than wolves at dusk.
    Their cavalry gallops headlong;
    their horsemen come from afar.
    They fly like a vulture swooping to devour;
    Hab 1:9 they all come bent on violence.
    Their hordes advance like a desert wind
    and gather prisoners like sand.
    Hab 1:10 They deride kings
    and scoff at rulers.
    They laugh at all fortified cities;
    they build earthen ramps and capture them.
    Hab 1:11 Then they sweep past like the wind and go on—
    guilty men, whose own strength is their god.”

    Hab 1:12 O LORD, are you not from everlasting?
    My God, my Holy One, we will not die.
    O LORD, you have appointed them to execute judgment;
    O Rock, you have ordained them to punish.
    Hab 1:13 Your eyes are too pure to look on evil;
    you cannot tolerate wrong.
    Why then do you tolerate the treacherous?
    Why are you silent while the wicked
    swallow up those more righteous than themselves?

    RO 9:33 just as it is written,
    “BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE,
    AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.”

    rock; mean = solid foundation that cannot be undone

    #811966
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    And the rock of the Spirit still causes offence.

    Men stumble over it trying to make sense of what seems to be a man’s words.

     

    #811974
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick
    you should know you have made up your own rock to believe in ;

    and the worse is that you try to take those in Christ to follow your rock ,

    you stumble and witches that all you talk to also stumble away from the truth of the scriptures ;

    #811990
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terricca, my how you try to force scripture to say what they are not saying at all. Why don’t you also quote scriptures that shou that ALMIGHTYGOD IS THE “ONLY” TRUE ROCK WHY do you continually rob GOD TH FATHER OF “HIS” GLORY AND GIVE IT TO JESUS, something JESUS NEVER DID. Jesus full well know who the “ROCK” was, and it was not him. We honor JESUS TO THE “GLORY OF GOD” , you on the other hand rob from GOD THE FATHER AND GIVE TO JESUS. That is “EXACTLY” what SATAN wants all his servants to do.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #811991
    terraricca
    Participant

    Gene

    like usual you talk but show nothing ;just claims not founded ,

    #811998
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    You offer pages of scripture with no understanding.

    Build on the rock that Jesus offers.

    #812001
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terricca, i have offered hundreds if not thousands of scriptures but you still do not get it, i am not GOD and who GOD HAS BLINDED THEY SIMPLY ARE AND WILL REMAIN BLIND, UNLESS JUST AS IT SAYS, “UNLESS” THE “LORD” ( OUR AND JESUS’ GOD) BUILD THE HOUSE THE WEARY BUILDERS BUILD IN VAIN. YOU have build your house on sand Terricca, and when the test comes it will calaps. THE HOUSE JESUS BUILDS IS OF GOD THE FATHER ,THE “ONLY TRUE” ROCKK, THAT IS ACCORDING TO JESUS WHO SAID “UPON “THIS” ROCK, I WILL BUILD THE CHURCH’, AND HE WAS NOT SPEAKIBG OF HIMSELF OR PETER,BUT THE POWER OF GOD THE FATHER, TO REAVEAL THE TRUTH TO, HE ALONE IS THE “ONLY” TRUE SAVIOR AND “ROCK”. NO MATTER WHO HE DOES IT THROUGH. HE “ALONE” IS THE “POWER” BEHIND IT “ALL” without exception.

    YOU are of those who ROB GOD, AND Exhault JESUS, something Jesus never did. You are in error and so are your misunderstood teachings. IMO and ohers i might add.

    peace and love to you and yours……gene

    #812009
    terraricca
    Participant

    Gene

    Terricca, i have offered hundreds if not thousands of scriptures but you still do not get it, i am not GOD and who GOD HAS BLINDED THEY SIMPLY ARE AND WILL REMAIN BLIND, UNLESS JUST AS IT SAYS, “UNLESS” THE “LORD” ( OUR AND JESUS’ GOD) BUILD THE HOUSE THE WEARY BUILDERS BUILD IN VAIN. YOU have build your house on sand Terricca, and when the test comes it will calaps. THE HOUSE JESUS BUILDS IS OF GOD THE FATHER ,THE “ONLY TRUE” ROCKK, THAT IS ACCORDING TO JESUS WHO SAID “UPON “THIS” ROCK, I WILL BUILD THE CHURCH’, AND HE WAS NOT SPEAKIBG OF HIMSELF OR PETER,BUT THE POWER OF GOD THE FATHER, TO REAVEAL THE TRUTH TO, HE ALONE IS THE “ONLY” TRUE SAVIOR AND “ROCK”. NO MATTER WHO HE DOES IT THROUGH. HE “ALONE” IS THE “POWER” BEHIND IT “ALL” without exception.

    YOU are of those who ROB GOD, AND Exhault JESUS, something Jesus never did. You are in error and so are your misunderstood teachings. IMO and ohers i might add.
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    you hardly offer a scripture with trouble you give bits and pieces of them ,just look at your quotes ,

    I have given you scriptures but do you look at them NO,do you even read them ? NO

    but you answered them as if they do not exist ,what a waste of time

    #812117
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terraricca…..IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT GIVES US OUR UNDERSTANDINGS OF TRUTH, IF YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH “IN” YOU YOU COULD EASELY UNDERSTAND WHO JESUS WAS CALLING THE “ROCK” IN THE SCRIPTURE I HAVE “COMPLETELY” QUOTED HERE MANY,MANY,MANY TIMES. YOU DESTORT NOT ONLY WHAT I SAY BUT LIE ABOUT ME NOT QUOTING COMPLETE SCRIPTURES ALSO. WHY ARE YOU NOT AFRAID TO LIE ABOUT US, BLASPHEMING against the SPIRIT CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS BOTH IN THIS LIFE AND THE LIFE TO COME. I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO USE MORE CAUSION IN THE FUTURE. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………gene

    #812125
    terraricca
    Participant

    Gene

    I lost my answer to you the site killed it I am not happy

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