Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

Balancing Rock Girraween

For many Christian denominations, the foundation of their faith is usually a version of the Trinity Doctrine in some form. But is this doctrine really the true foundation of the Church? Let’s take a look at the actual foundation that Jesus Christ built his Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They said, “Some say You are John the Baptist and some say Elijah and others say Jeremiah or one of the early preachers.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 Jesus said to him, “Simon, son of Jonah, you are happy because you did not learn this from man. My Father in heaven has shown you this.
18 “And I tell you that you are Peter. On this rock I will build My church. The powers of hell will not be able to have power over My church.

Read the above clearly. Jesus did not build his Church on Peter. He built it on the truth that Peter spoke concerning the true identity of Jesus Christ. And what was that truth? That Jesus is the Son of God and the Christ.

Peter did not say that Jesus was God or one member of a triune God, yet that is the foundation for many. So what is it that tries to fight against the true foundation? Is it not the Gates of Hell that is trying to prevail against this truth. But for what benefit is there to attack the true foundation of the Church, which is the Body of Christ?

Here is the thing. Roman Catholics believe that the foundation was Peter and this is where their line of Popes supposedly comes from. They also believe that the foundation of their faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not only are they wrong, but their fruit over the centuries proves that this tree was not good.

So which is it? The Catholic faith or the true faith?

Many do not realise that they side with the Catholic faith. However, it is true that this faith and foundation cannot sustain eternally any work built upon her.

For they labour in vain those who build on another foundation.

Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:6: for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

He also wrote in Ephesians 4:5-6: one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

And Jesus said it so clearly in John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Are you willing to believe the truth about who God is and who Jesus is over any contrary tradition that was passed down to you?

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  • #808370
    Danny Dabbs
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    Hi Nick,

    Thanks. I’ve already given my life to Jesus Christ.

    Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.

    Danny

    #808371
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Danny,

    Yes that is a popular idea.

    But does it have scriptural support?

     

    Did Peter preach that at Pentecost?

    #808372
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Do you mean Acts 2:38?

    I did that. All Praise to God in Jesus Name!

    Danny

    #808373
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi DD,

    Yes the way of entry to the kingdom is offered there.

    But men offer many false options.

    #808374
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Yes, and you also need to do Romans 10:9.

    “If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”

    Danny

    #808377
    kerwin
    Participant

    Danny,

    That is true if you do not think of it out of context of Scripture for it is also written:

    2 Corinthians 11:4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

    and

    Matthew 12:35Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

    #808378
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi DD,

    You need to be aware that the book of Romans was written to the saved and not the unsaved.

    It was taking the saved Jews to a level of useful faith.

    Check Ch 1

     

    If you need the blessing of the Spirit remember the promise of Jesus Christ that the Father will give the Spirit to His children  who ask. Lk 11.13

    #808380
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Danny Dabbs. …..be careful with the words lord and LORD, THEY do not mean the same in Hebrew . The word for Jesus should be lord, (adoni) meanning a human ruler, the word LORD in HEBREW IS (adonia) meaning the SUPREME GOD, Big difference in there meaning.

    Let me paraphrase something for you brother, “King David said, “the LORD (“adonia”, almighty God) said unto my lord (“adoni” a human ruler, Jesus) sit on my right side until I (adonia, almighty God), make your enemies your footstool.

    Also Jesus “himself” is not the christ or anointing spirit that was on him, that was HOW GOD THE FATHER WAS IN HIM, remember when JESUS said, “the son of man can do “nothing” of himself, “the Father who is “IN” him “HE” does the works”. We can also have that “SAME” SPRITUAL ANOINTING IN US ALSO, which will make us one with God the Father and Jesus our lord (adoni).

    I think you are beginning to see the truth after all those years, but don’t feel alone, nearly 95% of Christendom is in the same boat brother. But it delights me when i see someone who is comming to see the truth, i give thanks to God the Father for all that he brings to see the truth, they are truly being blessed, may he strenghten you in the sound truth brother, and the antisipation of the comming of our lord (adoni) JESUS, who is and was the anointed Son of the living God.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #808381
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Sorry for the double post, gene

    #808412
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    If the Spirit of God wrote the bible through human vessels why do you not give the glory to God?

    #808425
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8…..Do you truly, bow you knee and honor Jesus, “TO THE GLORY OF GOD” or is it to the GLORY OF JESUS? DO YOU TRULY SEE THE WORK OF GOD “IN” AND “THROUGH” THE MAN JESUS who is “EXACTLY” AS WE ARE, or do you see a preexisting being doing his own works speaking his own words? Can you truly call Jesus your true “BROTHER”, who is the first from our own kind, A PURE HUMAN BEING from HUMANITY to make it into the kingdom of God. The FIRST “BORN”, OF “ALL CREATION” TO MAKE IT, INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.?

    Why can’t you come to see what we tirelessly keep telling you, the spirit of truth should be convencing you by now , if you have it. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #808427
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    If the Spirit of God wrote the bible through human vessels why do you not give the glory to God?

    More accusations. You assume too much about others based on your own limited understanding.

    If you are led by the Spirit, you will love others and not subject them to condemnations, accusations, and falsities.

    #808428
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    @Gene

    And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

    Notice it says, “this rock”. That means it is specific to the context and not general.

    What you teach is this:

    And I tell you that you are Peter, and on THE rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

    I believe Jesus words rather than what you are teaching me here.

    Too many here seem to know more than scripture and the writers of scripture and the one who inspired them. I often hear things like, ‘technically speaking …’ which in some cases is like saying that scripture is not quite perfect, let me fix it.

    #808429
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    T8…..Do you truly, bow you knee and honor Jesus, “TO THE GLORY OF GOD” or is it to the GLORY OF JESUS?

    I do the following or at least try to. What about you?

    • and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
    • So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.
    #808433
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    T8….you mean you can’t put it together, JESUS said unto him (now notice exactly how he used his name) blessed are you (Simon Barjona) because it was not flesh and blood that reavealed who JESUS WAS TO HIM, do you at least see that,so far, then he went on to say it was his FATHER who was in heaven who “reaveled” it unto him, right?, now we know that JESUS WAS FLESH AND BLOOD, SO IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN HIM, RIGHT? Then JESUS says to him (Simon Barjonia) , and i say “ALSO” UNTO YOU, (JESUS UNDERSTOOD BY THE SAME WAY, “REAVEALING PROCESS ALSO, that Simon Barjonia was actually PETER, BY THAT SAME REAVEALED KNOWLEDGE FROM God the Father, THAT showed JESUS WHO HE WAS also, “PETER”.

    IT WAS ALL ABOUT REAVELING to him and his deciples by GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF, AND THAT (GOD THE FATHER), WAS THE “ROCK” THAT HE WOULD USE TO BUILD HIS CHURCH; and the gates of hell would not prevail against it.

    It seems to me you seen unable to get the overall context about what Jesus was actually TALKING ABOUT, T8, Well your not alone brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #808434
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    The Spirit in Jesus offended quite a few.

    mt 15.13

    #808438
    kerwin
    Participant

    Gene,

    T8 already knows that you cannot have faith in Jesus Christ without faith in God and vise versa. The only difference you essentially have with him is what God and what Jesus you believe in. That is the same with many disagreements.

    #808442
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22

    #808443
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi DD,

    Yes Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    This is the foundation of the church founded by Jesus Christ.

    The Spirit manifesting through men and under the control of the Lord.

    #808445
    kerwin
    Participant

    Danny Dabbs,

    1 John 2:22 does not actually apply to anyone except in the manner that all heretics preach a different Jesus than the real one. Every one here believes Jesus was conceived as a human being and so believes Jesus came in the flesh.

    2 John 1:7 possibly should be translated as Jesus is currently coming in the flesh. That disagrees agrees with some of the hypothesis that go around hear since there are those that believe he is not currently in the flesh. The problem is that it seems to be difficult for experts to translate as it is translated differently in different translations. In short it cannot be used as a proof text in making a case again those that believe Jesus in no longer in the flesh.

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