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  • February 3, 2015 at 4:03 am#788660
    terraricca
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    LU

    Prove it terraricca. Were you there at the time? If not, then you really don’t know if it is true or not, do you?

    You have many questions. Pick one for starters, ok.

    SINCE YOU MAKE THE “IF” A REALITY ,YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS AND SEE “IF” WHAT YOUR “IF” IS TRUE ?

    February 3, 2015 at 5:47 am#788663
    Lightenup
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    Bring on your first question, not all at once. We will start there, terraricca.

    February 3, 2015 at 10:27 am#788684
    carmel
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    Lightenup…..JESUS went no where but the grave and was raised by his GOD, back to life. As far as others raised back to “eternal” life, there was non Others then Him. The word hell simply means grave and that is where Jesus went and where a who die go.

    Gene,

    SINCE you asserted that Jesus went ONLY to the grave, A REFERENCE TO THE FLESH BODY ONLY

    IT ISN’T IN THE SAME TIME A DECLARATION THROUGH YOUR OWN WORDS THAT JESUS NEVER HAD A SOUL?

    So if Jesus IN ACTUAL FACT had a soul, where DID HIS SOUL GO, as soon as He said to his Father:

    Luke 23:46 And Jesus crying out with a loud voice, said: Father, into thy hands

    I COMMEND my spirit. And saying this,
    HE GAVE UP THE GHOST

    WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HIS SOUL, NO?  THE HOLY GHOST! SINCE THE FATHER WAS WITHIN!

    Now let’s reflect on scriptures:

    Daniel 3:25He answered, and said: Behold I see FOUR MEN LOSE, and walking in the midst of the fire, and THERE IS NO HURT IN THEM, and the form of the fourth is like the SON OF GOD.

    So, AS YOU CAN READ, one of the four men was the SON OF GOD!
    And the three men represented THE HUMAN FIGURE IN :THE SON OF MAN!
    SPIRIT, SOUL, AND FLESH OF JESUS CHRIST! NO?

    THEREFORE, THAT SCRIPTURE FORETOLD THAT THE SON OF GOD , THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS’SOUL, WOULD BE IN HELL IN THE GLORY OF JESUS’ HUMAN BODY

    Now let’s reflect on Jesus’ words!

    John 2:19 Jesus answered, and said to them: Destroy this temple, and I WILL RAISE IT UP IN THREE DAYS.

    In the above Jesus made a definite reference to his FLESH BODY only, and AS YOU WELL SAID, Jesus’ flesh body was in the grave, the fact that he ONLY mentioned THREE DAYS!
    AND NEVER MENTIONED THE THREE NIGHTS. OK?

    NOW LET’S READ MATTHEW HERUNDER:

    Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was in the whale’s belly three days and three nights: so shall THE SON OF MAN BE IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS.

    In the above  though, Jesus said:

    so shall THE SON OF MAN be in the 

    HEART OF THE EARTH

    THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS

    NOTICE, the above:

    the son of man NOT THE SON OF GOD!!!!!!

    Therefore a reference to Jesus Christ as A HUMAN BEING. NO?

    The heart of the earth and that is HELL FIRE THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH!

    and the phrase:

    Three days and three nights

    So for Jesus, it was vital to mention the above particular DETAILS IN RELATION TO HIS AFTERLIFE!

    TO MAKE US AWARE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED

    THEREFORE, He mentioned THREE DAYS ONLY REGARDING HIS OWN RESURRECTION FROM DEATH!

    BEING ON HIS OWN! A FLESH BODY ONLY!

    AND THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS, NOTICE DOUBLE, DAYS AND NIGHTS, SINCE IT IS REGARDING HIS SOUL’S GLORIFICATION/UNIFICATION WITH JESUS’FLESH BODY IMMEDIATELY ON JESUS DEATH!

    WHICH MEANS THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT ACQUIRED JESUS’ FLESH BODY ATTRIBUTES WHILE BEING WITHIN JESUS BODY AS HIS SOUL, ON EARTH, THE FATHER’S ABODE

    Therefore, CONFIRMED that  HIS SOUL AND BODY,

    WERE definitely BOTH IN HELL

    BUT IN ONE SUBSTANCE!

    ONE ENTITY IN

    SPIRITUAL FLESH BODY AND HE MANIFESTED HIMSELF TO ALL THOSE IN HELL THAT HE WAS BOTH:

    THE SON OF GOD AND THE SON OF MAN AS IT IS IN DANIEL 3:25:27 SYMBOLICALLY MANIFESTED PROHPECY

    AND JESUS’ PROPHECY in Matthew 12:40!

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles

    February 3, 2015 at 10:28 am#788685
    Proclaimer
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    I would rather be with the ‘us’ that has both, the ‘God of gods’ and the ‘Lord of lords’, the one and mighty God-Jehovah who IS both.

    You admit outright that for you there is two who are God.

    But Apostle Paul teaches, “For ‘us’ there is one God the Father”.

    You are not ‘us’. That much is clear.

    Jesus said that eternal life was to know the ONLY true God, and his son. Clearly you disagree with these words of eternal life also.

    Then John teaches that “No one has ever seen God”…

    Clearly you also disagree because the Jesus God you preach is clearly visible. Your teaching denies that Jesus is the image of God, by placing him as God himself. This means you deny the truth that there is one God and that Jesus is his son.

    That is 3 witness scriptures that clearly expose you as a false teacher. We all know what you are.

    February 3, 2015 at 10:29 am#788686
    Proclaimer
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    Okay, I can see we are going off topic here (including myself).

    February 3, 2015 at 10:44 am#788692
    carmel
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    Gene,

    MORE REFLECTION ON DANIEL 3:25:27

    26Then Nabuchodonosor came to the door of the burning FIERY furnace, EMPHATICALLY A REFERENCE TO HELL!

    and said: Sidrach, Misach, and Abdenago, ye servants of the most high God, …….

    JESUS’ HUMAN STATE was definitely THE ONLY SERVANT OF THE MOST HIGH, THE GODHEAD IN FLESH FORM!

    27And the NOBLES, and the MAGISTRATES, and the JUDGES, and the GREAT MEN of the KING being gathered together, considered these men,

    THE ABOVE IS DEFINITELY A REFERENCE TO SATAN’S WORKFORCE!

    that the FIRE HAD NO POWER ON THEIR BODIES, AND THAT NOT A HAIR OF THEIR HEAD HAD SINGED, NOR THEIR GARMENTS ALTERED, NOR THE SMELL OF THE FIRE HAD PASSED ON THEM.

    WHAT ELSE IS THIS PIECE OF SCRIPTURE, IF NOT A REFERENCE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THE GLORY OF JESUS CHRIST HUMAN STATE!

    28Then Nabuchodonosor breaking forth, said: Blessed be the God of them, to wit, of Sidrach, Misach, and Abdenago, who hath SENT HIS ANGEL,

    WHO ELSE IS THE ANGEL OF GOD THAT WENT TO HELL, IF NOT JESUS CHRIST IN THE GLORY OF GOD THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT?

    and delivered his servants that believed in HIM:

    WHO ARE THE ABOVE SERVANTS THAT BELIEVED IN JESUS CHRIST’S PRESENCE IN HELL AND WERE REDEEMED IF NOT
    ABRAHAM AND ALL THE REST!

    and they changed the KING’S WORD,

    SATAN DID CHANGE HIS FALSE MENTALITY IN THAT MOMENT IN TIME NO?

    and delivered up THEIR BODIES that they might NOT SERVE, nor ADORE ANY GOD, except their own God.

    OBVIOUS IN HEAVEN SINCE THEN!

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles

    February 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm#788700
    terraricca
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    LU

    Bring on your first question, not all at once. We will start there, terraricca.

    why do you think THE CURTAIN WAS TORN IN TWO TOP TO BOTTOM ?

    WHY DO YOU THINK THE EARTH SHOOK ?

    AND THE ROCKS WERE SPLIT?

    AND WHY THOSE SAINTS WERE RAISED ?

    AND WHY DID THEY ONLY SHOW UP IN THE HOLY CITY AFTER JESUS RESURRECTION AND NOT BEFORE ?

    AND TO WHOM DID THEY APPEAR (TO MANY)?

    March 2, 2015 at 4:28 pm#789798
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    Which place that men call HELL do you mean?

    Hades?

    The place that could not hold Jesus or Peter and the brothers ?

     

    1 Peter 3.19

    March 2, 2015 at 4:33 pm#789799
    terraricca
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    LU ?

    March 7, 2015 at 4:36 pm#790227
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    Hi t8,

    Which place that men call HELL do you mean?

    Hades?

    Read the first post Nick.

    Did Jesus go to hell after he died

    Also note:
    Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

    So Death and Hades cannot be eternal locations for the souls of the wicked. Rather, they are thrown into the Lake of Fire to suffer eternal destruction and shut out from God forever. They will never have life, their sentence is final. While man can destroy the body, God can destroy both the body and soul.

    May 5, 2015 at 7:03 pm#796468
    GoodTidings
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    No, Jesus Christ did NOT go to Hell for three days when He died.  If you really want to know the Truth, here it is.  All you need do is pray and ask Father in Heaven to verify it by the power of the Holy Ghost who revealeth the Truth of things as they were, as they are, and as they are yet to be.  Simple enough, yet lovingly foolproof for the humble seeker of Truth.  Remember, the Lord’s house is a house of order and not confusion. It is my solemn witness and testimony that what is about to be given was given as revelation from God to His prophet holding proper Priesthood authority to do so.  I also give fair warning not to mock that which is sacred and cometh from above as God will be a swift witness against you at judgment for inquiring and then trampling underfoot HIS revelation and HIS servant who delivered them to you.

    That being said, it’s now your choice to continue reading.  Our Father’s Plan of Happiness is perfect.  With love and prayer for your heart to be opened and rewarded for searching, pondering, and praying.  In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

    So this is where His Spirit WENT and this is WHAT He did.

    https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/138?lang=eng

     

     

     

    May 5, 2015 at 7:12 pm#796469
    Miia
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    Oh, A Latter Day Saint. Now this is going to be interesting. (Hi GT, my two neighbors on both sides happen to be LDS).

    May 5, 2015 at 7:18 pm#796470
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    When the Devil tempted Jesus,he said it was written..

    Satan often responds with getting us to depart from what is written, by reading other so called writings and holy books. This way he can introduce false teachings.

    May 10, 2015 at 7:41 am#796954
    NickHassan
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    Hi,

    Acts 2.26f

    “Therefore my heart was glad and my tongue exulted;moreover my flesh will also live in hope because you will not abandon my soul to Hades nor allow your holy one to undergo decay”

     

    Acts 2.31

    “He was neither abandoned to Hades nor did his flesh decay”

     

    May 10, 2015 at 8:42 am#796955
    bodhitharta
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    Hi,


    @Nick

    Acts 2.26f

    “Therefore my heart was glad and my tongue exulted;moreover my flesh will also live in hope because you will not abandon my soul to Hades nor allow your holy one to undergo decay”

    Acts 2.31

    “He was neither abandoned to Hades nor did his flesh decay”

    Very good verses

    The body after the heart stops beating, the body immediately starts turning cold. This phase is known as algor mortis, or the death chill. Each hour, the body temperature falls about 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.83 degrees Celsius) until it reaches room temperature. At the same time, without circulation to keep it moving through the body, blood starts to pool and settle. Rigor mortis, or a stiffening of the body, sets in about two to six hours after death [source: Marchant, Middleton].

    While the body as a whole may be dead, little things within the body are still alive. Skin cells, for example, can be viably harvested for up to 24 hours after death [source: Mims]. But some things that are still alive lead to the putrefaction, or decomposition, of the body — we’re talking about little organisms that live in the intestines.

    A few days after death, these bacteria and enzymes start the process of breaking down their host.

    John 11:39 Jesus said, “Take away the stone.” Martha, the sister of the dead man, said to him, “Lord, by this time there will be an odor, for he has been dead four days.”

    May 10, 2015 at 11:12 am#796968
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    “Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

    So Death and Hades cannot be eternal locations for the souls of the wicked. Rather, they are thrown into the Lake of Fire to suffer eternal destruction and shut out from God forever. They will never have life, their sentence is final. While man can destroy the body, God can destroy both the body and soul.”

    Indeed once the white throne judgement comes there is no longer a need for the holding places for the dead.

    They are thrown into the Fire.

     

    But the fire is not quenched-Mk 9.44-48

    That is the second death and the major risk to avoid for all who are yet under the wrath of God.

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