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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Activity 3 years, 4 months ago

    @berean

    All things were made by him(“THE WORD); and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Is this a contradiction then?

    The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him.

    He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was life, and that life was the light of men.…

    Tell me Berean. Was Jesus Christ the creator or were all things made THROUGH him?

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      Hi Proclaimer

      I’m late, I hadn’t seen
      sorry

      WHEN THE SON OF GOD WAS BORN IN THE DAYS OF ETERNITY (MICAH 5: 2), HE RECEIVED FROM THE FATHER THE LIFE IN HIMSELF, (JOHN 5:26) THAT IS THE DIVINE LIFE THAT CONTAINS ALL THE DIVINE ATTRIBUTES OF THE FATHER omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence.
      THIS IS WHY JOHN SAYS [AND THE WORD WAS “THEOS”]

      PAUL IN FACT IS TELLING US IN PHILIPPIANS 2: 7 THAT THE SON OF GOD HAS LEFT FROM INDEPENDENT USE OF HIS DIVINE ATTRIBUTES AND BECAME SIMILAR TO MEN. HE DID NOT USE HIS DIVINE ATTRIBUTES TO HELP HIS HUNGER, THIRST, FATIGUE … ETC
      HE USED HIS DIVINITY ONLY TO GLORIFY HIS FATHER AND ACCORDING TO HIS WILL AND FOR THE SALVATION OF SOULS.

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