Kerwin…..Right i never said you could make a choice apart from you will, that impossible, what i am saying is that that choice is not a “free” one it is based on what is driving your mind and heart, and that is hardly free at all. What is influencing you is a CAUSE, AND THE “EFFECT” IS YOUR WILL, So the will ITSELF was not and is not free at alll. Remember Kerwin, i am not saying wedon’t have freedom to EXCERCISE our influenced and captivated Wills, i am only talking about the will themselves. I believe you understand that and do agree with what i have been saying, this is a very important subject to understand brother.IMO

peace and love to you and yours………gene