Kerwin……..it’s not my view it is what the scriptures i have over and over quoted here is saying. Go back and read them all. I went to the site you ask me to and read much of it and most of it agree with what i have been saying imo, but i deduced my conclusions from scriptures i have quoted over and over here not on science. My argument is not against science, becaus nearly all science agrees with the principle of cause and effect. If all things are caused then there is nothing free about it right? Every actions we take are caused actions, nothing free about them. Freewill is an idology born from the EGO OF MAN, but far from the truth of GOD AND SCRIPTURE.

I have given example after example over the years from scriptures no one even acknowledges them, they just ignore them as if they do not even exist , i have brought out where men were preordaind to do certain things that they did, even where the apostles were presestined and chose by God to do what they did , Paul even said he was forordained from his very berth, so where was freewill in that case, i produced scriptures that showed where GOD takes from the same lump of clay and makes vessels of mercy and vessels of wrath, where Pharoah’s heart was hardened by GOD, WHERE WAS FREEWILL IN ALL THESE THINGS AT. NOT ONE SCRIPTURE SAY WE HAVE A WILL THAT IS FREE IN US, INFACT IT SAYS JESUS CAME TO SET THE CAPTIVES FREE, FREE from what? Is that not the captivity their own minds were in, and if their minds were held captive so was their will, so where is a will that is “free” in all that ?.

Again i maintain there exists no such thing as a WILL, THAY IS FREE., the word freewill is an OXYMORON.

peace and love to you and yours……………………gene