Berean replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Gadam
You are telling huge lies about God. Satan is THE FIRST WHO SINNED AGAINST GOD AND HE IS THE FATHER OF LIE. NT Say the truth about Satan, You not.
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
This is not personal but is about the collective. If you could be forgiven for all sin, then why the need for the shedding of blood to cover sin in the OT?
The soul that sins will still die. The price of sin is death. And so it is we die. All the while, God can still forgive a nation. But death remains in the end for each person.
If prayer is…
gadam123 replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
I knew the following before this discussion took place.
Satan is the adversary of God. A chief being or the chief being who opposes God;
satan is adversary. Can be applied to anybody who thwarts the purposes of God. Jesus once rebuked Peter with this word.
This hasn’t changed. I still hold this view.Hi Proclaimer, thanks for sharing on the t…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
And there was war in HEAVEN:
Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;
and the dragon fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in HEAVEN.
And the great dragon was cast out,
that old serpent (see Genesis 3)
(Satan used a medium to deceive Eve: a serpent)
, called the Devil, and Satan,
whic…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Invasion of New Zealand in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 3 months ago
Dollars VS Decency: Is China taking over New Zealand?
In calling out China for its increasing aggression, human rights violations and COVID cover-ups, Australia is paying a hefty price for storming the high moral ground. A furious Beijing is doing everything it can, using trade tariffs to punish us economically. But across the Tasman it’s a c…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
I will leave you with this.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
In that case, the evolution of Satan is done for me. I haven’t learned anything from this topic.
Satan is the adversary of God.
satan is adversary.I knew that before this discussion.
gadam123 replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Why?
I request that you and say gene talk about the evolution of the platypus.
Why not.
Ha ha …Gene is not in my group. In fact he is a hardcore Christian who always hate and blame Jewish people for the death of Jesus. I only requested you too stick to the topic as we both had deviated much from the topic which is being watched by Princess too..
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
I request Proclaimer and Princess to share some thing on the topic ‘Evolution of Satan’.
Why?
I request that you and say gene talk about the evolution of the platypus.
Why not.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Your comparison of two different concepts (Newton and Einstein) is no where related to what I am questioning here on the concepts Messiah. Yes you are also entitled to close your eyes to such deviations.
And just like that you disregard the possibility of one deriving from another with scripture / revelation and allow it with science.
Sorry, but…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Please see this Video on Blood Atonement…
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Have you sinned gadam?
How will you be saved?
What is your hope?
Again you are struck at the NT’s strange ideas of Vicarious Atonement. Then your ‘Amen’ to Ezek 18 is meaningless.
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
The messiah came.
You are at least 2000 years behind the plan.
First the law then grace.
You have rejected grace.
Hi Proclaimer, thanks for your replies to my posts and also conveying ‘Amen’ to my comments on Ezekiel 18.
But I am not agreeing with your logics of the so called ‘first Law then Grace’. It was purely the interpretation of Paul…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
The soul that sins shall die
Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that they should turn from their ways and live?
Amen.
Yet you say, “The way of the Lord is unfair.” Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way unfair? Is it not your ways that are unfair?
Amen.
Again, when the wicked turn away from the wick…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
23 Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that they should turn from their ways and live? 24 But when the righteous turn away from their righteousness and commit iniquity and do the same abominable things that the wicked do, shall they live? None of the righteous deeds that they have done shall be…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
Your Messiah is a mythical figure not the original Messiah talked in the Hebrew Bible. So what type of hope is this which mystified the very concepts of Messiah? Why hang on Messiah at all if you don’t want a Hebrew Messiah?
Jesus was a Hebrew.
He was a man.
He did what messiahs do. He saved.
The only thing you really disagree with is the s…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
I request Proclaimer and Pricess to share some thing on the topic ‘Evolution of Satan’.
gadam123 replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Mike:
Upon his ascension to heaven, Gene. Jesus was raised from the dead in the same flesh body in which he died. He dwelled on earth in that same body for another 30 days after his resurrection. Then he ascended to heaven before the eyes of the disciples. But we know from scripture that flesh can neither inherit nor even enter the kin…
gadam123 replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
The soul that sins will die. You will die. We all will die. Is that it. The God of the cosmos will let us all eternally die. Never to have life again.
We have a glorious hope because we accepted the messiah. What is your hope gadam?
Your Messiah is a mythical figure not the original Messiah talked in the Hebrew Bible. So what type of hope is this…[Read more]
princess replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 3 months ago
The same thing applies to any one here as they are sticking to their age old myths which are not based on the Hebrew Bible. I too can quote the same logics for you too my friend
so i’m going to go out on a limb here, spirit logic is very far and few in-between with the Hebrew, it’s way on the ritual side, rules side, eye for an eye side.
so mr…[Read more]
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