So you have conceded that your two points are contradictory.

The more you hold onto them, the more you debunk your own arguments.

If you push argument 1, that debunks argument 2.

If you push argument 2, that debunks argument 1.

It would be good to know which of the two is more important to you.

Daniel is talking about kingdoms and so is Revelation.

Daniel is narrower in scope.

Revelation and knowledge increase with time.

And there is more to come.

Too many people live in the past.

You can send a letter if you want.

Or send an email or post today.

Hi Proclaimer, it’s good idea to see that you are interpreting the texts. But I request you to restrict our debate to two books Daniel and Revelation.

Hi Proclaimer, I don’t know what is this (weight) lifting on Biblical texts. New Testament writers had lifted much from the Hebrew Bible to suit their agenda in this case the book of Revelation. This writer cleverly never quoted any writer of the Hebrew Bible but taken much from the book of Daniel.

Okay. Further proof for you that the heads w…[Read more]

It seems absurd to believe that it was lifted except for the kingdoms part.

Hi Proclaimer, I don’t know what is this (weight) lifting on Biblical texts. New Testament writers had lifted much from the Hebrew Bible to suit their agenda in this case the book of Revelation. This writer cleverly never quoted any writer of the Hebrew Bible but taken…[Read more]

It seems absurd to believe that it was lifted except for the kingdoms part.

Weird.

Is it worth addressing?

I think it defeats itself.

Is there any point?

The Four Beasts of Dan 7

Daniel recounts, ‘The first was like a lion and had eagles’ wings. Then as I looked its wings were plucked off, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand upon two feet like a man; and the mind of a man was given to it.’

The winged lion is familiar in Babylonian art. The eagle was a symbol of swiftness and t…[Read more]

The Image of Dan 2

The image has a head of gold, and Daniel interprets it as follows: ‘You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory, and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you r…[Read more]

But you agree that your two points in question are contradictory?

Please take what you like brother but our beliefs are not facts.

But you agree that your two points in question are contradictory?

Adam.

If you make two points and they contradict, then obviously I have to debunk two points knowing that one is clearly wrong on the outset. Whereas, if you put forth the point that really bugs you, I can focus on one point and either double my effort or it would only require half my time. In short, it is hard spending precious time on things we…

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Adam.

If you make two points and they contradict, then obviously in the best case scenario, I have to debunk two points knowing that one is clearly wrong on the outset. Whereas, if you put forth the point that really bugs you, I can focus on one point and either double my effort or it would only require half my time. In short, it is hard spending…[Read more]

If that is the case. Then are you going to drop the argument that kings don’t represent kingdoms?

What’s this repeated question of dropping? Please see I am not owning anything here I am just quoting from these texts of Daniel and Revelation. If you can’t see the differences please leave it here and concentrate on the subject.

Thanks for long chat…..

Daily meditation

September 2, 2021

ALL TRUE MISSIONARY EFFORT BEGINS AT HOME

They were both righteous before God, and blamelessly followed all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord. (Luke 1.6)

IN ENTERING INTO RELATIONSHIP with the Savior, regenerated man only returns to the relationship with God prescribed to him. But his first duty…[Read more]

Coming to the book of Revelation yes it has taken genre and motifs of the book of Daniel but its visions are not quite equal to Danielic you can observe this when we study the Chapters 13 & 17.

If that is the case. Then are you going to drop the argument that kings don’t represent kingdoms?

So you are going to drop your argument that the writer of the Book of Revelation lifted the content from the Book of Daniel?

It doesn’t say anywhere that Daniel saw all the empires.

Many believe the empire he did see are:

Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.

You can disagree. But disagreement doesn’t change truth.

And I haven’t seen you explain why these empires are incorrect.

I am sorry to bother you at the same time ones beliefs don’t change the facts. We are s…[Read more]

Please answer my previous post.

The Egypt, Assyria, Roman and the Ottoman Empires are no where visible in Danielic visions. Please see my post on Dan 11 for more details.

It doesn’t say anywhere that Daniel saw all the empires.

Many believe the empire he did see are:

Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.

You can disagree. But disagreement…[Read more]

Now to your question.
I believe 7 is right.
7. Adam and Eve are man

I would have said the following:

• Eve is adam
• Eve is man
• Adam and Eve are adam
• Adam and Eve are man

Because adam and man are the same word and Both Adam and Eve are man as is each person too.

Are you man? Yes.

Are we both man? Yes.

Regardless, your answer shows that…[Read more]

Seems like more absurdity. None of the other empires or Kingdom are directly mentioned by name in either book. It is the descriptions that are important. Prophecy works like that. It is actually written like this so the wicked will not understand.

What then, in your contradictory view is the empire of iron legs that tramples and breaks the others…

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