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    Please show me at least one reference to Rome in whole of Daniel as a world kingdom as you repeatedly stick to your traditional view. I have shown you plenty to prove Greece as the fourth kingdom. The writer of Daniel never dreamed of Rome or future kingdoms like Ottoman….

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    Any interpretation that makes Media and Persia two kingdoms does not agree with the Book of Daniel.

    Rome was a significant kingdom. Far greater than you give it credit for it seems. It had two legs and lasted 1000 years more than most think too. While the East was taken over by the Ottomans, the West divided into roughly 10 nations.

    Media and…[Read more]

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    Continued from Daniel 2 to 7 and further…

    The four beasts of Daniel 7

    Daniel recounts, ‘The first was like a lion and had eagles’ wings. Then as I looked its wings were plucked off, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand upon two feet like a man; and the mind of a man was given to it.’

    The winged lion is familiar in Babyl…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    DO PEOPLE BECOME ANGELS WHEN THEY DIE?

    Daily Devotional

    When the apostle Peter was miraculously delivered from prison, the young lady, Rhoda, who answered the door could hardly believe it was him. In her excitement, she left Peter locked outside and rushed to tell the others. Since he had been previously delivered by an angel, the…[Read more]

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    Christian interpretations are a dime a dozen just as scientific interpretations are. It’s a natural consequence of investigating something that needs interpreting. No big deal. Some theories are better than others.

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    Why the Medes and Persians are considered one kingdom in the Book of Daniel
    “This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37 Your Majesty, you are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38 in your hands he has placed all mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds in the s…[Read more]

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    The Book of Daniel states that the kingdom was given to the Medes and the Persians, thus according to that book, these two were one empire. So that leaves Rome as the two legs. Simple.

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    Please check my latest post for clarity on this.

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    Greece is the fourth metal
    Daniel 6:28
    So Daniel prospered during the reign of Darius and the reign of Cyrus the Persian.

    Daniel 5:27-28
    TEKEL means that you have been weighed on the scales and found deficient. PERES means that your kingdom has been divided and given over to the Medes and Persians.

    The Book of Daniel describes the Medes and the…[Read more]

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    Here is another Christian interpretation of Dan 2 image.

    The image of Daniel 2

    The image has a head of gold, and Daniel interprets it as follows: ‘You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory, and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the b…[Read more]

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    Xi Jinping ‘ratcheting up’ the military intimidation of Taiwan
    The Australian Strategic Policy Institute’s Michael Shoebridge says Xi Jinping is “ratcheting up” the military intimidation of Taiwan and Australia and its allies need to take him seriously.

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    The Book of Daniel originated from a collection of legends circulating in the Jewish community in Babylon and Mesopotamia in the Persian and early Hellenistic periods (5th to 3rd centuries BC), and was later expanded by the visions of chapters 7–12 in the Maccabean era (mid-2nd century).

    The “four kingdoms” theme appears explicitly in Daniel 2 a…[Read more]

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    The Medo-Persians, led by King Cyrus II, invaded Babylonia from the east in June of 539 B.C. and captured its capital, Babylon, in July of the same year.

    But the book of Daniel differs this. Please read Dan 5:30-31

    30 That very night Belshazzar, the Chaldean king, was killed. 31  And Darius the Mede received the kingdom, being about sixty-two year…

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    The Medo-Persians, led by King Cyrus II, invaded Babylonia from the east in June of 539 B.C. and captured its capital, Babylon, in July of the same year.

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    I am quoting the verses again for your ready reference;

    The writer of Daniel clearly mentioned four (names) kingdoms in his texts. Please check the following verses;

    1. Babylon (Dan 1: 1; 2:37) God had given a kingdom to Nebuchadnezzar

    2. Media (Dan 5:31; 9:1; 11:1) A fictitious king  Darius named for Median kingdom by this writer.

    3. Persia…[Read more]

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    One reason is Greece being two empires ahead of Babylon, not three.

    Sorry??? Please clarify with verses. You never replied my query on Rome as fourth Empire with proof in Daniel whereas I have given you  verses for Greece being the fourth Empire of Daniel.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago

    You get ot from John 1:1. The last mention of theos in Jphn 1:1c to be precise lacks the definite article, ‘the’. But the definite article is present in all other mentions of theos in John 1:1.

    Read what Origen said about this fact.

    “We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor…[Read more]

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    Let’s take your example of Roman Empire in two legs one West and the other East. I ask you why not we take legs of the Image of Nebuchadnezzar as North and South Greece Kingdom as clearly uttered in Dan 11?

    One reason is Greece being two empires ahead of Babylon.

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago

    Proclaimer

    So Eve is not The Adam but is adam. The Son is not The Theos, but is theos. In nature, Jesus Christ is theos or divine and Eve is man or flesh.

    This is what the scriptures teach us.

     

    Me

    The Son is not The Theos, but is theos. ????

    WHERE You see That in The bible

    I Read

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with(the)…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago

    I was speaking Of The “nature” of Christ.

    I thought we established that he has divine nature. That he was begotten of God. That he is the offspring of God.

    So that means he is not The God, but he is theos in nature.

    Similarly, Eve is not Adam or The Adam, but is adam meaning she is man or mankind. Remember that God made man, male and female. And…[Read more]

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