@DT

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Other references to Israel as God’s servant include Jer. 30:10 (note that in Jeremiah 30:17, the servant Israel is considered by the nations as an outcast, abandoned by God, as in Isaiah 53:4)

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Jeremiah 30:10
10] Therefore do not fear, my servant Jacob, says the Lord; and do not be dismayed, Israel! For, behold, I will save you from a…[Read more]

#SabbathTruth​, #FaithOverTradition​
Have you ever wondered why so many churches avoid talking about the true Sabbath? In this eye-opening 39-minute motivational speech, Billy Graham boldly reveals the deep-rooted fears and traditions that keep the truth hidden. This message isn’t about religion—it’s about a relationship with God and the coura…[Read more]

@DT

Verse 5 should lead you to a reasonable conclusion.

5] And now, says the Lord, who formed me from the womb,

To be his servant,

To turn Jacob to himself:

Though Israel be not gathered, I will be glorified before the Lord, and my God will be my strength.

IF JACOB/ISRAEL IS THE SERVANT HERE,
HOW CAN HE TURN HIMSELF BACK TO THE…[Read more]

@Berean

The author of that article has taken a lot of liberty in his interpretation. The language used in verses 1-13 makes it impossible to be a reference to the Jesus. Everything is about context in which it was written; you cannot parachute into the middle of a thought, pick out a sentence or two and create your own idea of what it means; this…[Read more]

@DT

You

52:13 “Behold, My servant will prosper.” Israel in the singular is called G-d’s servant throughout Isaiah, both explicitly (Isa. 41:8-9; 44:1-2; 45:4; 48:20; 49:3)…

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TEXTS FROM ISRAEL THE SERVANT WITH WHICH I AGREE

Isaiah 41:8 ] But you, Israel, are my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham, my frien…[Read more]

@Berean,

I would recommend looking up and verifying 1everything written below, look at every verse given and prove it wrong or right. If it is right, what will you do with it? Will you accept or reject it.

In the original Hebrew texts, there are no chapter divisions, and Jew and Christian alike agree that chapter 53 is actually a continuation of…[Read more]

@DT

He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was…[Read more]

@Berean,

“Just because God refused Moses to take the sins of the people upon himself does not mean that God, through His Son, could not.”

Did you miss the other passages given where G-d said the sinner is responsible for what they do? Are you calling G-d a liar? It doesn’t matter what your belief says the Jesus could do; all that matters is what…[Read more]

@ DT

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Read Exodus 32:30-35, where Moses was about to take the sins of the people and God said NO; they would be responsible for what they had done against God and inflicted a plague on them.

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Just because God refused Moses to take the sins of the people upon himself does not mean that God, through His Son, could not.

If Adam and Eve…[Read more]

@ DT

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If the last week of the “70 week” prophecy is about the Jesus’ death, please explain why this prophecy isn’t a focus in the NT. The only time the name Daniel is mentioned is in the Jesus’ dialogue when he’s speaking about the destruction of the Temple……

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Jesus referred to Daniel 9 without naming him…[Read more]

@Berean,

“The desire of every true Jewish woman was to be the mother of this Messiah. Whenever a baby boy was born, the relatives would gather hoping he might become the Savior.” Wieland

“Every” Jewish woman desired to be the mother of this Messiah!?!? The only Jewish woman, if they even thought about it, would be one who married a man from th…[Read more]

@Berean,

If the last week of the “70 week” prophecy is about the Jesus’ death, please explain why this prophecy isn’t a focus in the NT. The only time the name Daniel is mentioned is in the Jesus’ dialogue when he’s speaking about the destruction of the Temple and specifically states when the disciples see “a desolating abomination” in the “hol…[Read more]

@Berean,

Tell me, would it have hurt to write a simple response to what you believe the 70 week prophecy is? The first 483 years, most agree it’s about the temple being rebuilt; it’s the last seven where doctrines have been created and everyone disagrees…everyone with their own “truth.” How painful would it have been to write the first three a…[Read more]

If you would only take the time to read about Daniel 9 (the 70 weeks and the context) in Pastor Wieland’s book, you would understand something unique in the world and which goes hand in hand with the story.

🙏

@Berean,

Where do I begin

If you don’t want to do what I tell you, then do what you want.

First, you don’t demand people to do what you want; you ask, you guide, you teach. It’s more pleasant that way.

But I won’t waste my time trying to convince you about Daniel 9

You wouldn’t be convincing me of anything; I wanted to know what you believe wit…[Read more]

@ DT

Comme je l’ai déjà dit, je ne perdais pas mon temps…

Me

Ok

If you don’t want to do what I tell you, then do what you want.
But I won’t waste my time trying to convince you about Daniel 9 OR ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT WILLING TO LEARN ANYWAY.
APPROPRIATELY YOU’VE FOUND YOUR WAY
YOU DON’T REALLY WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ELSE.

Like I already said, I wasn’t wasting my time reading another’s opinion of what they believe it means; especially when you could give a condensed version of it by summarizing what he said. Don’t you explain your belief when “witnessing” to others or do you hand them a book and say, “read it for yourself.”

Daniel chapter 9 is discussed in Pastor Wieland’s book, Chapter 9.
Read and you will see.

@Berean ,

So put your prejudices aside and go to chapter 9 of the book of Daniel, and you will be surprised to discover that the SDA does not believe in this Futurist heresy.

I have read chapter 9 and there is nothing concerning what the SDA believes. What do you believe of the 70 week prophecy told to Daniel?

What have you studied concerning Isa…[Read more]

@ DT

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Since you believe the last week is a future event, please provide the passage where G-d paused this prophecy and pushed it off thousands of years into the future.

ME

I never said I believed in this false doctrine initiated by the Jesuits and which has spread widely in Protestantism.
So how can you say such a thing without knowing?
So…[Read more]