Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 1 week ago
We can take a slight pause on the Deut 10 :17 after you give me an analogy that is not comparing apples to oranges and shows that you are grasping the pattern. Make it follow this form: the name of a unity of persons = the title or category of each member in the unity.
Israel is the name of a unity, the House of Jacob. Israel=Jacob…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 1 week ago
So, let me ask you if you know about the belief that enough early Jews (before Jesus came), believed that the Tanak was speaking about two powers of God, so much so, that the orthodox Jewish rabbis made a declaration about that belief?
Don’t be a tease, back up what you say; provide proof to that statement and the “two powers” of G-d.
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 1 week ago
You are making no sense, obviously the nation of Israel came from Jacob and his sons; where does G-d claim to be more than one. Please provide the passages that support this “trinitarian” claim (do you notice how you are avoiding the question??).
Can we please finally put G-d/the Jesus “unity” of Deut 10:17 to rest; I understand gra…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 1 week ago
You wrote:
You’re reaching and your analogy doesn’t work; you’re using an example of two physical separate identities and trying to make them one.
I am showing you that the name of the unity called Israel is made up of a man that God named Israel (Jacob) + Jacob’s sons. The unity called Israel is echad…one in a united sense of be…[Read more]DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 1 week ago
If I were to say: Israel is Jacob and sons. Would you agree that the statement shows that Israel is more than one person?
You’re reaching and your analogy doesn’t work; you’re using an example of two physical separate identities and trying to make them one. Whereas G-d NEVER refers to HIMSELF as a multi “being”; christianity created t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 1 week ago
All good questions!
You wrote:
If I were to say my shirt is black and white, does that mean I have two shirts? Absolutely not!!!! It means my shirt has two colors, black and white. This grammatical concept is the same being used in the Deut 10:17 passage. This passage simply states YHWH is G-d above all other gods and Lord above all…
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 2 weeks ago
“For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.”
I understand that verse to show that YHWH is God and Lord, two persons.
If I were to say my shirt is black and white, does that mean I have two shirts? Absolutely not!!!! It mea…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 2 weeks ago
You ask:
where does it say the meaning of the Tetragrammaton is the “fullness of G-d” and that it represents each of G-d’s “presences”?
Deuteronomy 10:17
“For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.
I understand t…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 2 weeks ago
You realize “Yahweh” is translated to “Lord”…right? So wouldn’t “Lord” also be an appropriate name to use?
When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit
YHWH is yud, hei, vav, hei (Hebrew) and is the “unpronounceable” name of G-d; wher…[Read more]
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Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 2 weeks ago
@Proclaimer @Berean @DesireTruth
When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit, many things in the Bible become easier to understand. Give it a try, ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate this and open your heart and mind.
Be blessed, LU
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Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Hi
God’s Eternal Law
So shall I keep Your law continually, forever and ever. Psalm 119:44.How wonderful in its simplicity, its comprehensiveness and perfection, is the law of Jehovah! …
There is no mystery in the law of God. The feeblest intellect can grasp these rules to regulate the life and form the character after the divine Mo…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Still attacking the catholic church and its leader; please explain Paul’s words concerning the Sabbath.
Col 2:16,17a “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; Here Paul states one isn’t to judge another of the…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 6 months, 3 weeks ago
How the Media Promotes Sunday While Attacking Seventh-day Sabbath Keepers for Exposing the Papal Counterfeit
In recent times, major media outlets have begun doing the bidding of Rome by shifting attention away from the true biblical Sabbath to the man-made substitute and false day of worship. A recent article published by MSN News on October…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Unity…let’s start here:
You wrote:
what does Deut 6:4 say: “…The Lord our G-d is one Lord.” Did you catch “G-d” and “Lord” in the same sentence and HE is one?
That is not really what Deut 6:4 says. I know it has been translated that way but it is not correct, popular but not correct. I am going to insert a picture of Deut 6:4 of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Great collection of verses on the Angel of the LORD.
The “angel” of the LORD is also the YHWH who is written about here:
The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb 1:2
The radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word. Heb 1:3
One to be worshipped b…Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.
You wrote:
Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Let’s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus as:
- The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb…
Proclaimer replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Let’s start here:
In the OT, what is the proper name of the God and Lord in Deuteronomy 10:17?
YHWH. Jesus is Lord means: Jesus is Kyrios.
Kyrios: “master,” “owner,” “sovereign,” or “lord.”
It’s a title, not a name, and could refer to:A human master (e.g. “lord of the vineyard” in Matthew 20:8)
A respected person (“sir”)
A false god or…[Read more]Berean replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 3 weeks ago
Hi LU
Deut. 17:10 does not refer to the Son of God.
The Son of God is, in the Old Testament, THE ANGEL OF THE LORD. (Exodus 3:2)
See https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=simple&format=Long&q1=angel+of+the+Lord&restrict=Old+Testament&size=All
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