Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 months, 2 weeks ago
The Hebrew word for “sky” in day two is the same Hebrew word for “heavens” in verse one. The form is a dual/plural usually written a collective singular but sometimes is shown plural depending on the verb that is used with it when the word is a subject of a sentence. You can see that the stars were placed in the expanse that is in…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 5 months, 2 weeks ago
HOLY FOREVER
Berean replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem
“…and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them..” (Ezekiel 37:26 – 27)At last check, there is NO Temple in Jerusalem. And worse, shortly after the Jesus died the Temple was destroyed! Just the opposite of this prophecy!
Just because Ezekiel mentions the tem…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
in Luke 5.8, Peter says to Jesus, “Depart from me, for I am a sinful man” which is simply an expression of awe and unworthiness. It has nothing to do with being cast away from God forever. When Jesus says it, he is also not always talking about the final judgement.
Not the verse I was referencing I was speaking on Matt 7:21-23 whe…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
I cannot prove anything that hasn’t happened yet, but I can show you scriptures that state Jesus will do in the future which match scripture in the Old Testament relating to the messiah.
These are not exact matches, but the events overlap. I could also get more accurate by quoting multiple scriptures to get a better match, but let’s start…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Oh really? He’s not born yet!
The true Messiah may well be born today. When will we know?
How do you know he’s not born yet? Can you prove it with the Tanack?
A better question would be has he been revealed; his birth isn’t the focal point in the Tanakh, what he will do and what will happen when he arrives is. Please read again what I w…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Day 2 is simply saying that sky was created in the place of the waters below from the waters above. Otherwise, you have to make the argument that the whole sky universe has or had water above.
Obviously, sky was created where there was once water around the earth.
Proclaimer replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
The bigger and only question one must ask, did the Jesus fulfill what was spoken about the Messiah in the Tanakh?
If you take the entire Bible as true, then all genuine messianic prophecies in the Tanakh are considered fulfilled in Jesus either in his first coming or at his future return. Some prophecies are seen as already fulfilled, while o…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
When the Jesus was here, he only spoke to the Jews and had a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny population of the world following him; since you believe he is yet to return, what portion of the population will serve the Jesus…only those he has determined worthy – depart from me, I do not know you; even though they thought they were serving the Jesus, he tel…
Berean replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Oh really? He’s not born yet!
How do you know he’s not born yet? Can you prove it with the Tanack?
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
You’re not answering my question.
Who is this Son of Man to you? Yes, the Messiah, OK, but what name do you give him?
How can I name someone who hasn’t come yet!??!!?? I suppose we could call him “Bob”; but the wouldn’t be very Jewish.
Berean replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
You’re not answering my question.
Who is this Son of Man to you? Yes, the Messiah, OK, but what name do you give him?
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
I already said who the one that “looks like the son of man” is. It IS a reference to the Messiah; it IS NOT a reference to the Jesus. Can you prove the Jesus is the true Messiah spoken of in the Tanakh; did the Jesus fulfill all that was said the Messiah was to do when he was here; if the Jesus missed a single requirement spoken abo…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
@DT
I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not…[Read more]DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Not following your passage comparison of Exodus and Daniel; one speaks of man not being able to fully see G-d’s glory and the other is a vision/dream. You still haven’t explained how this would be about the Jesus.
What enabled him to survive before God?
It was a dream.
The bigger and only question one must ask, did the Jesus fulfill wha…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
@DT
Exodus 33:20
And he said, “You cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”
13] I saw in the visions of the night, and behold, one like a son of man came with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.
14] To him was given dominion, glory, and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and lan…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
I believe that the translation of NASB1995 is the most accurate and is what I use. I also believe that Isa 9:6 should be translated as in the NASB1995:
So, because you “believe” the 1995 NAS translation is the more accurate translation, it is?!!? What about the the Hebrew; is it less accurate? I would reason the Hebrew would be the mos…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Hi, I’ve been busy and will be busy for a couple of weeks for the holidays. I just have time for a couple of comments. I believe that the translation of NASB1995 is the most accurate and is what I use. I also believe that Isa 9:6 should be translated as in the NASB1995:
Isa 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
I only show you that pre-incarnate Jesus is very present in OT time
What you’ve shown is your belief; you have given no proof, just religious doctrine and interpretation. Christianity teaches the Jesus is the “angel of the Lord” spoken of in the Tanakh; so who where all the other angels in heaven if they weren’t the Lord’s angels?…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
No, I am not ashamed of Jesus Christ. I only show you that pre-incarnate Jesus is very present in OT time and it is he who came to save the three faithful Hebrews.
The KJ Bible is faithful.It’s not a problem that you believe the fourth man is an angel. Nebuchadnezzar says so too, but he also specifies:
HIS ANGEL
28] Then Nebuchadnezzar spoke,…[Read more]
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