What did the Tetrad of 2015 point to?

Now that the tetrad of 2014-15 has passed, can we see what if anything God was highlighting?

The Bible states in Genesis that God uses the sun, moon, and stars for signs and seasons. The word ‘seasons’ is also translated as ‘festivals’ elsewhere in scripture so that equates to the Jewish Feasts which are marked in the Jewish calendar. This calendar is based around moon cycles unlike our Gregorian calendar which is based on the sun. The Passover for example, is always marked by a Full Moon and a lunar eclipse coincides with a Full Moon by definition. So what is a tetrad? It refers to four things in a group, so in the case of a full moon, the word is used to describe four successive total lunar eclipses, with no partial lunar eclipses in between.

Since the first century, there have been 62 tetrads with only eight coinciding with both Jewish feasts making them significant in a biblical sense. So why is this significant? Well as already mentioned, God gave the moon as a sign to mark festivals and when we look at the last four tetrads, what we find are periods of time that were very significant in Jewish history. Here are the last four tetrads. Take a look at the dates. Some might not mean anything to you immediately. Let’s take a look at each of these years to see what happened in Jewish history on these dates. What you will find are the most significant events in modern Jewish history. Here are the years of the last four tetrads:

  • Tetrad of 1493-1494
  • Tetrad of 1949-1950
  • Tetrad of 1967-1968
  • Tetrad of 2014 – 2015

So were these years significant for Israel, the Jews, or Bible prophecy in general? At first glance the year 1967 certainly stands out to most students of prophecy, but what happened in and around all the last four significant tetrads?

1493- 1494

The Spanish Inquisition was a significant event for the Jews that took place in 1492 just one year prior. That year, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain gave the Jewish population a mere four months to convert to Catholicism or leave the country. It is estimated that between 165,000 and 400,000 Jews fled the country at this time. As many as 50,000 decided to stay, converting to Roman Catholicism.

Many historians now believe that Christopher Columbus was Jewish and they believe his voyage to the west in 1492 was his way of escaping the Spanish Inquisition of that year which of course resulted in his discovery of America. Some studies of Columbus show he was a deeply religious man whose purpose was to sail to Asia to obtain gold in order to finance a crusade to take back Jerusalem and rebuild the Jews’ holy temple. Whether true or not, his voyage was not as is commonly believed, funded by Queen Isabella, but rather by two Jews who converted to Catholicism to avoid death. Louis de Santangel and Gabriel Sanchez advanced an interest free loan of 17,000 ducats from their own pockets to help pay for the voyage. Another prominent Jew, Don Isaac Abrabanel, who was a rabbi and Jewish statesman, also donated money for the voyages of Christopher Columbus.

Just a couple of months before 1493, Columbus discovered America and in 1493 there was a tetrad perhaps signifying how important these events would be  for the Jews. As we know, Jews migrated to America to escape persecution resulting in the United States having the largest Jewish population on earth today with more Jewish people than even Israel. Certainly this was a significant time in Jewish history.

1949-1950

After the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD, Jews were driven into exile. The Jewish people were scattered through the nations of the world but still managed to retained their identity. After the WWII holocaust, the Jews were finally granted their homeland. On May 14, 1948, the modern state of Israel was born. In 1949,  Israel was officially recognized as a legal state by the United States with Israel becoming a member of the United Nations in 1949 after the Israeli elections.

1967

God said many times in the Old Testament that He would place His name in Jerusalem. The Jews during their 2,000 years of exile turned their faces toward Jerusalem each day praying for the restoration of their beloved ancient city and the rebuilding of the temple. On June 7, 1967 the Jordanians launched an attack against Israel and west Jerusalem. Israel counter-attacked driving Jordan out of east Jerusalem, out of Judea-Samaria, and back into its own land across the Jordan River. Jerusalem was undivided and under Jewish control for the first time since the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD.

2014 – 2015

Islamic Caliphate

Looking back at what happened in 2014 and 2015 it seemed the most obvious event relating to Bible prophecy, Israel, and the Jews was probably the rise of ISIS. The leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi proclaimed an Islamic caliphate from the Great Mosque of al-Nuri in Mosul in mid-2014. In 2015 the caliphate seemed unstoppable, but met some serious resistance with US air strikes. Despite that, ISIS maintained their ground. However, by 2016, ISIS was losing territory it had gained and in 2019 they were driven out of the last remaining pockets of land they held.

So was this significant to Israel or the Jews? Well it did seem at the time that ISIS could eventually attack Israel, but their defeat put a stop to that plan. This however led to a different problem that does relate to the Jews, namely the European migrant crisis. In 2015, millions of Muslims fled to Europe to escape ISIS and in the confusion many Muslims from Africa also took advantage of the opportunity to go to Europe for better economic opportunities. This wave of Muslims and the Islamic culture they brought with them led to increased persecution of Jews in Europe prompting many to live in Israel. But the impact for Jews could be much greater in the future due to the increase in percentage of Muslim Europeans due to immigration and a higher birth rate. In years or decades to come, parts of Europe could have a Muslim majority population leading to a more Islamic Europe than a Christian Europe that we know of today. Could this be the catalyst for what we read about the last days regarding the persecution of both Christians and Jews including death and even beheadings as we read in scripture? Well if ISIS was a catalyst, then yes a resurrection of an Islamic Caliphate in both the Middle East and parts of Europe could indeed bring some serious persecution of Jews and Christians.

Jerusalem

But there was an even more significant event during this tetrad? Yes there was. That event was the presidential campaign of Donald Trump which was launched on June 16, 2015, the same year as the tetrad. The following year in November 8, 2016, Trump became the President. On December 6, 2017, he announced the United States recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and ordered the relocation of the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The US embassy was officially opened in Jerusalem on May 14, 2018 which coincided with the 70th anniversary of the Israeli Declaration of Independence.

In hindsight, if God was using this tetrad to show us a significant sign, then it was probably the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and its endorsement by the United States. It does follow the pattern of the other tetrads in question which relate to Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews. However, Islamic immigration to Europe could also be a significant end time factor that could have a profound impact on both the Jews and Christians in the future.

Of course it has to be said that Trump is still the president and this King Cyrus type leader could enact many other major changes that will affect Israel and the Jewish people. Remember that during his administration he also defeated ISIS in Syria and Iraq and he is also making great changes to the relationship that the US has with China, which could in itself change things globally. It is also looking likely that he will win another term.

NOTE: The comments below are a topic that was started back in 2013. The speculation was what the tetrad would bring. It is now the year 2019 and with the benefit of hindsight, the above writing was written.


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  • #818147
    terraricca
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    you have net picked parts of verses to make your claim ,just like jw’s do

    and so have also mist the answer to my question

    Jesus speaks about his time this was my question

    #818186
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Honestly, I have no idea what you are after. Seems like you just want me to agree with you and not the scriptures I have given. I obviously cannot do that.

    #818208
    terraricca
    Participant

    t8

    read your own scriptures and go back to Jesus time of crucifixion and read what had happen ,the sun darken,and so the moon did not shine ,and the earth shaked ,

    now think did not Jesus said that he must die for the sake of many ?yes and to his apostles did he not told them that death will not prevail on him for he is the redemption for the sins of the world ,in this regard did the words of Jesus where not the truth when he said “YOUR REDEMPTION IS DRAWING NEAR ” absolutely you seem missing Jesus point

    #818211
    Proclaimer
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    read your own scriptures and go back to Jesus time of crucifixion and read what had happen ,the sun darken,and so the moon did not shine ,and the earth shaked ,

    Jesus said:

    “Immediately after the distress of those days “‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

    And you say this is talking of this:

    It was now about the sixth hour, and darkness came over all the land until the ninth hour. The sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was torn down the middle.

    But in Revelations, we read the following:

    The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.

    Revelation was written well after Jesus death right? Are you suggesting that the revelation was recording history rather than the future? And if history, I thought you said that we shouldn’t learn from history?

    #818216
    terraricca
    Participant

    Mt 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.
    Mt 24:5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.
    Mt 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
    Mt 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
    Mt 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
    Mt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.
    Mt 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,
    Mt 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
    Mt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
    Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.
    Mt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
    Mt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—
    Mt 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
    Mt 24:17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house.
    Mt 24:18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.
    Mt 24:19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
    Mt 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
    Mt 24:21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.
    Mt 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
    Mt 24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it.
    Mt 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.
    Mt 24:25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
    Mt 24:26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.
    Mt 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
    Mt 24:28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
    Mt 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
    “ ‘the sun will be darkened,
    and the moon will not give its light;
    the stars will fall from the sky,
    and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
    Mt 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.
    Mt 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
    Mt 24:32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.
    Mt 24:33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.
    Mt 24:34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
    Mt 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

    tell me what part is not a detail to the destruction of the temple in 70 AD

    #818235
    Proclaimer
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    I know you believe that all these were fulfilled in 70AD, but this debate is about God using the sun, moon, and stars as signs and seasons. You disagree with this. Even if all was fulfilled in 70AD and we are in the Millennial reign or whatever it is you believe, it doesn’t negate the fact that God uses these celestial objects as signs and seasons right?

    #818239
    terraricca
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    first you put in my mouth thing i never said nor believe,

    and i have made clear what the sign should be from the stars ,sun,moon,ect

    #818258
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    You said the following:

    • I think that those moon event are like the quatrains of Nostradamus and men will try to link anything or some thing to it for many like to see what is not ,but don’t like to see what is ,the truth of God
    • yes their is a time of a end to this time and age ;but not with a sign or signs…
    • the need of signs are not needed for true believers…
    • so far you are confirming what i have said many times ,no signs…
    • no the blood moons have nothing to do with God or in regard of Israel Prophecies ;all man made deceit ,
      I tell you before hand so you cannot say it was after the facts ,
    • just natural event that comes and go’s
    • Yeah just another natural event

    It seems obvious to me that you do not believe that God uses the sun, moon, and stars as signs. So I stand by that assertion unless you can give another fair explanation of your words.

    #818259
    terraricca
    Participant

    no thats your view ,you want all natural signs to be a sign of God ,you just overdo it

    #818261
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Perhaps you do not read my posts? I made clear that I do not hold every natural event to be significant or as a sign. Instead I investigated the Tetrad which was a rare occurrence that fell in Jewish festivals and in previous times fell around significant events for Israel. I made it clear that there were other events that did not fall on festivals. Its all there if you wish to see for yourself.

    You seem extreme which has led to error. One moment you are saying that God doesn’t use these as signs (anymore) then you say that I consider all as important when clearly I do not. Like a pendulum swinging wildly from side to side with no peace or stillness are your words and ideas. My advice is to become a more balanced person. Not only will you be better for it and feel better, but you will save other people’s precious time debating silly things. I was just trying to help you but I can see that you do not want help. You are a clay jar set in his shape and it hurts when imperfections are pointed out. If this is true, then why are you here? For what purpose is your existence here now if there is no more improvement of your character to be had?

    #818264
    terraricca
    Participant

    t8

    yeah I am the silly, and the one that needs help to understand scriptures why ? because i am a bible only teacher ? or a student and disregard the common man made dogmas ,

    so I should become a more balanced person by following the main stream religion and ignoring the truth in scriptures ?

    you take the time to assess me ,what about assessing you with the mirror of the scriptures truth not yours ,

    you are now saying that you accept that all those natural event are not all signs in God’s purpose ,remember when i told you that there will be nothing happen way before the 4 moon even came to be ,so sure i was that nothing would happen ,but you and others start to make something out of it ,not me

    #818266
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Yes you need to be balanced. You said I think all are signs and you say that God does not use these as signs. On both accounts you are clearly wrong. Just accept it or let pride have its way. Up to you.

    #818267
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    you are now saying that you accept that all those natural event are not all signs in God’s purpose ,remember when i told you that there will be nothing happen way before the 4 moon even came to be ,so sure i was that nothing would happen ,but you and others start to make something out of it ,not me

    I remember you saying something like that. But I still believe it was a sign and there was something significant in that period for us to see. What happened in that period effected the area around the Great Sea substantially and even impacted the world. And it is not over yet. Please listen. I believe this was significant, while there are many other occurrences that were not, but were just natural cycles with no real sign attached to it. You can read this in my earlier posts in this discussion if you do not believe me.

    Maybe you need to read my posts properly before replying. It may take a bit more time, but we will both save significant time by not having to clear up misunderstandings.

    #818268
    terraricca
    Participant

    Yes you need to be balanced. You said I think all are signs and you say that God does not use these as signs. On both accounts you are clearly wrong. Just accept it or let pride have its way. Up to you.
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    in all my quotes I have said that they are signs for good natural reasons ,

    my argument is only in the fact that you call those signs special ,and now play politics ;sorry I don’t do politics

    either something is true or wrong no middle class just like truth does not sit with lies ,

    and what you say can easy be put to you ,with your pride

    #818269
    terraricca
    Participant

    I remember you saying something like that. But I still believe it was a sign and there was something significant in that period for us to see. What happened in that period effected the area around the Great Sea substantially and even impacted the world. And it is not over yet. Please listen. I believe this was significant, while there are many other occurrences that were not, but were just natural cycles with no real sign attached to it. You can read this in my earlier posts in this discussion if you do not believe me.

    Maybe you need to read my posts properly before replying. It may take a bit more time, but we will both save significant time by not having to clear up misunderstandings.
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    I know it is not you ,it is me ,it must be me ,it is impossible that you are wrong ,

    deception mean a creation of something not true but could be ,and later should be ,i know it’s my mistake ,again and again funny the pharisees said the same thing about jesus and his apostles ,if I would have mist something you had all the time to correct me with the early quotes of yours but you did not ,why ?

    on a scale their is only a “0” to become balanced you have to put something on it first then counterbalance it with something else ,you never came with a counterbalance only with words that do not mean anything by themselves ,

    #818291
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    my argument is only in the fact that you call those signs special ,and now play politics ;sorry I don’t do politics

    You repeat your error. Again, I said that this one could be significant because it fell on feast days and the last times in history this happened were significant times such as the creation of Israel. I even said that other times were likely just natural. Clearly, I have never said that all were significant signs. That is a LIE and all likes come from the Father of Lies. I really find you of the opposite spirit to what is Paul said in 1 Corinthians 1:10.

    I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.

    Seriously, it is not that hard to agree or remain open minded to something that could be true. But you refuse nearly everything and oppose vehemently against anything that is not in your theology. I do not believe this is from the spirit of God. Your hand seems like it is against everyone and you force everyone to be against you. Like the Muslims. I am not sure why you are like this, but I suspect that you have some pet doctrines and anything that doesn’t compliment them you argue bitterly against. But sometimes you need to look at the point as it is presented and take off your rose coloured 70AD glasses. That is my opinion. You seem too set in your ways to improve. I would love to be wrong about that.

    #818292
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    and what you say can easy be put to you ,with your pride

    As truth seekers, we look at things to see if they are so. We do not go around shooting everything down like the Pharisees because you could shoot at God. No, we give them a fair hearing and if we are not sure,m we put them on the shelf. The accuser is the Devil and he does that because he is proud. Pride shuts the truth out. I seek the truth. You are increasingly becoming a waste of time Terr.

    #818293
    terraricca
    Participant

    I appeal to you, brothers and sisters,[a] in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.

    those above words are based on everyone being of the truth of God not their own opinions ;when you start your argument with a “IF” this mean confusion ,not clarity in truth , and so your question of being open minded is viewed as open to what ? confusion ? or truth ? does scriptures truth start with “IF” ? tell me

    #818295
    terraricca
    Participant

    t8
    you say ;You seem too set in your ways to improve. I would love to be wrong about that.

    yes you are wrong ;for to me what you cannot prove to be certain in scriptures should not be said as a “IF” for then many “IF” are possible without limits ,this is what as and created all sect divisions ,

    this is why Jesus said ;let no one deceive you ; and John “test all things ” and also Jesus give what to use for being the truth “your word is truth ”

    not “IF”

    #818304
    Proclaimer
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    Read 1 Cor 1:10 again.

    No good will come by ignoring this advice.

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