The true meaning of the word ‘God’ – The Trinity Doctrine

Part 01 – The Trinity Doctrine
Part 02 – Who is the Most High God?
Part 03 – Who and what is Jesus?
Part 04 – The true meaning of ‘God’
Part 05 – Supporting the Trinity
Part 06 – Pre-Nicene writings
Part 07 – Development of the Trinity
Part 08 – Why challenge the Trinity
Part 09 – Trinity Doctrine conclusion
Part 10 – An Apostasy
Part 11 – 100 indisputable proof verses
Part 12 – What is your confession?
Part 13 – The Roman Catholic faith
Part 14 – Trinity Doctrine resources

An important but much overlooked fact when understanding the word ‘God ‘in the bible is that both the Old and New Testament are translated from a number of different words and each original Hebrew or Greek word for ‘God’ have a wide range of uses.

Theos

Theos {theh’-os} is by far the most common Greek word that we translate as God or god. Below are the possible meanings of the word ‘theos’.

1) a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities
3) spoken of the only and true God
3a) refers to the things of God
3b) his counsels, interests, things due to him
4) whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any way
4a) God’s representative or viceregent
4a1) of magistrates and judges

So the Father is God because of his authority. However God the author also sends messengers with his authority, so when our Father anoints someone to speak His words, that person is can be given the title ‘god’ whether he be an angel or a man. Also, someone or something that takes takes the place of God is also called a god, in particular a false god. In addition, the word god can be used when describing something great, like a great earthquake.

Let’s now look at some biblical verses that apply the word God (Theos) to denote different identities or as a description.

Below we see a verse where the word ‘theos’ is used when referring to the Father.

The Father

Ephesians 1:3 (English-NIV)
Praise be to the God (theos) and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

Satan

The word ‘theos’ in the next verse is used to describe Satan / The Devil as he is the god of this world/age.

2 Corinthians 4:4 (English-NIV)
The god (theos) of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God (theos).

Man

The word (theos) is also used to describe man / judges.

John 10:34 (English-NIV)
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, `I have said you are gods (theos)’

The Old Testament was written in Hebrew and again we see that the word “God” can apply to our Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, Angelic & Demonic powers, mankind, idols, and even things or events.

El

The NIV & NASB translate the following 3 words as God “el” “eloah” & “elohim”
Each is a generic term, meaning “God” or “mighty one”.
Normally when one of these words occur in the OT, it designates either the true God or something that the pagan nations viewed as a god. In a few instances these words are also used of angels and human beings.

The Father

Below is a scripture that shows that the Father is God.

Malachi 2:10 (English-NIV)
Have we not all one Father ? Did not one God (El) create us?
Why do we profane the covenant of our fathers by breaking faith with one another?

Jesus Christ

The next verse uses the Hebrew word “eloah” which used to describe Jesus.
We will be looking at this scripture in more depth in Part 5 (Scriptures used to support the Trinity Doctrine).

Isaiah 9:6 (English-NIV)
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God (El), Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Idols

The following verse uses ‘Elohim’ to denote idols.

Exodus 20:23 (English-NIV)
Do not make any gods (Elohim) to be alongside me; do not make for yourselves gods (Elohim) of silver or gods (Elohim) of gold.

Elohim

The word “Elohim” is the most common word that is translated God in the Old Testament.

The Father

Genesis 1:1 (English-NIV) says:
In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth.

Man / Judges

“Elohim” can also be ascribed to Man. See next the verse.

Psalms 82:6 (English-NIV)
“I said, `You are “gods” (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’

When Jesus said “you are gods (theos)”, as quoted previously on this page, he was actually quoting the above Psalm.

Angels

And, angels are called gods in Psalm 97:7. This verse is actually quoted in the Hebrews 1:6 and it is referring to the Angels.

Psalm 97:7
All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols; worship him, all you gods (Elohim)!

Earthquake or City

Finally the word elohim can be used to describe something that was exceedingly great like an earthquake or a city.

1 Samuel 14:15
And there was trembling in the host, in the field, and among all the people: the garrison, and the spoilers, they also trembled, and the earth quaked: so it was a very great (elohim) trembling.

Jonah 3:3
So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly (elohim) great city, a three days’ walk.

Conclusion

These scriptures clearly show us the wide usage of the word that we know as God/god. It is a term or title that is used to identify God but is not always used in that sense. Rather it is a term that can apply to many types of authority, to idols, and even to things that are very great.

When the word God is being used to identify an authority, it is important to read the context because The Most High God is completely different to the god of this age and saying that God is always the one true God of Heaven and Earth, then we can mistakenly make Satan the one true God. In other words the type of God that is being referred to is determined by the adjective or context of the sentence. It is incorrect to read the word ‘God’ as the Most High God in every case. In fact the very term ‘Most High God’ leads us to conclude that there must be lesser gods.

We know that the word ‘Elohim’ is a term or title and not a name, but does God have a name? Yes he does. ‘YHWH’ which is called the “tetragrammaton,” meaning “the four letters,” is the revealed name of God, which scholars translate as Yahweh, Jehovah, Yahvah amongst others. Knowing that there is no such letter in Hebrew that makes the sound of a ‘J’, there are many Hebrew names that contain an emphasis on the *Yah* sound. Even Jesus name in Hebrew has this sound. ‘Yahshua’ is Jesus name in Hebrew and it is where we get the English name Joshua. But the word Yahweh is not actually a translation of the tetragrammaton, it is a transliteration meaning the sounds of those original Hebrew letters have been reproduced into another language. Other biblical names that have been transliterated include: Abraham, which in Hebrew is pronounced Abrawhawm and Sarah is pronounced Sawraw. Today if the president of the USA goes to Germany they will pronounce his name rather than change it into a German word of the same meaning. In the same way ‘Yahweh’ should be pronounced exactly the same in all languages.

God first reveals his name in Exodus.3:15 and Psalm 135:13
And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YHWH, Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

God’s response to Moses, shows us clearly that ‘God’ (Elohim) is not a name, but a title and we saw earlier how this particular title can refer to others including men, angels, and false gods.

Understanding the usage of the word theos and elohim in scripture clearly shows that these words are ascribed to more than God Almighty, especially when there is mentions of another person or thing. And the assumption that all who are called theos that are not the Almighty are by reason of that, a false theos, is not true either. Scripture applies theos and elohim in a positive way to men and angels. And can an earthquake be a false God?

Knowing that the Father is predominately the one being referred to when we see the word God, as pointed out, it is not always exclusively the Father. How many times is Jesus called God? Well let’s put it into perspective. Overwhelmingly it is the Father. Secondly, the term is used of false gods. Finally Jesus, angels, men, and Satan are mentioned only once  to a few times.


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  • #814549
    Proclaimer
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    So you came in the flesh.

    I don’t see that term applied to anyone else.

    Sure I was born with human nature. But I didn’t come in the flesh from somewhere else that I know of.

    #814550
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Jeremiah was no ordinary person that is for sure. But he was a normal man that I know of.

    And I agree that Jesus became a man like us. Not doubting that. He came in the flesh.

    But what is not ordinary about Jesus is his origin which is ancient.

    He existed in the form of God and came in the flesh. Now he is with the Father in the glory that he had with him before the cosmos.

    Jeremiah cannot compete with that.

    #814553
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    So the term does not relate to the birth of Jesus either.

    So what does it mean?

    #814556
    kerwin
    Participant

    @t8,

    But what is not ordinary about Jesus is his origin which is ancient.

    Scripture teaches us that all believers that are proved true have ancient origins. After all God “saved [them] and called [them] with a holy calling … given to [them] in Christ Jesus before the world began…” (1 Timothy 1:9)

    In short they originated before the world began.

    #814557
    kerwin
    Participant

    @t8,

    He existed in the form of God…

    This clause is absurd as it disagrees with Genesis 1:1. God created the universe which contains the outward form so he does not have one.

    In short Jesus never existed in the outward form of God because the claim he did breaks with scripture.

    #814777
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    So the term does not relate to the birth of Jesus either.

    So what does it mean?

    What term? “Jesus came in the flesh”?

    who, though he was in the form of God,
        did not regard equality with God
        as something to be exploited,
    but emptied himself,
        taking the form of a slave,
        being born in human LIKENESS.
    And being found in human form,
        he humbled himself
        and became obedient to the point of death—
        even death on a cross.

    Therefore God also highly exalted him
        and gave him the name
        that is above every name,
    10 so that at the name of Jesus
        every knee should bend,
        in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11 and every tongue should confess
        that Jesus Christ is Lord,
        to the glory of God the Father.

    See that Nick, he was born in human likeness. See that Kerwin. He was in the form of God or had divine nature.

    You guys are arguing with scripture.

    Don’t shoot the messenger.

    #814778
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Scripture teaches us that all believers that are proved true have ancient origins.

    I will admit it is possible that we may have lived before and came to Earth. But there is no real proof that this is true, albeit a few verses that could be taken that way. So would not rule it out because it doesn’t say we didn’t exist in another form before coming here.

    But it says this of Jesus so that is definite. Your quoted verse could imply that.

    #814779
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Jeremiah was born a prophet to the nations(Jeremiah 1:5) and I was not so was Jeremiah a ordinary man?

    Jeremiah would have sinned like all men. But Jesus was the second Adam. There was a time when the first Adam had not sinned, but Jeremiah was the natural offspring of Adam as you are I are/were. It puts being born-again in perspective.

    #814810
    hoghead1
    Participant

    Actually, nobody today uses the 1611 edition of the KJV.   Except for serious historical scholars, no one would want to read it, as it uses radically different spellings, was in Gothic lettering, included the Apocrypha, and contains many words that had very different meanings back then.  Over the years the KJV has been updated.  Between the 1611 and our modern version of the KJV, there are about 20,000 changes made in word usage, punctuation, spelling, etc.

    #814831
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Thanks for the info hoghead1.

    #814843
    942767
    Participant

    Hi t8:

    He existed in the form of God…

    And so, you are saying that he existed in this form prior to his birth into this world.  What does that mean?  Please show anywhere in the OT where it speaks of him being in the form of God.  I just posted the vision of Isaiah 6.  Is this what you are talking about?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #814844
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Why do you misquote scripture?

     

    Scripture does not say Jesus came in the flesh.

    Do you not believe Jesus Christ came in the flesh??

    #814845
    942767
    Participant

    Hi t8:

    Also, John 1 states “the Word was God”.   If this refers to the pre-existent Jesus.  Should it not read “the Word was in the form of God”?  The scriptures have made it clear that there is but “One God” and they identify Him “as the Father”.  He did come in the flesh although he was not born of the “sperm of man”.  Conceived of the Holy Ghost, he came in the likeness of sinful flesh.

    #814847
    hoghead1
    Participant

    You’re welcome, t8.  That’s what I am here for.  I have a doctorate in theology and am try8ng to be as helpful as possible.

    #814848
    hoghead1
    Participant

    On the basis of passages such as the prologue to Jn., Trinitarians maintain that Christ pre-existed.  That’s why Trinitarian formulations often say “begotten, not made,” meaning there never was a time when Christ didn’t exist.

    #814849
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi H,

    Yes.

    It is because they do not recognise or respect the Spirit in him.

    #814851
    hoghead1
    Participant

    Doesn’t saying the “Word was God” make it clear the Word is God?  Why would it have to say the Was in the form of God?  I don’t follow you here.

    #814852
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Hoghead1.

    Do you think WAS is the same as IS?

    #814853
    hoghead1
    Participant

    Yes, definitely.  The passage is saying the Word is God.

    #814856
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi H1,

    Really?

    Then how is he the Son of God?

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