The Flat Earth Experience

An eternal circle’s circumference is a straight line. So a really big circle looks like a straight line too. While the Earth looks flat from our perspective, it is written that knowledge shall increase and we now know that the universe God created displays his eternal nature and is held together and works because of his laws. Read more

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  • #825799
    mikeboll64
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    D4T:  Yes, but God cannot lie. He has told us certain things about the earth, sun, moon and stars that contradict what the “science” of today is trying to tell us. No one is arguing that God knows more than us and that He has revealed this knowledge to us in a way that we can understand. But if He says the earth was created before the sun then it cannot be the other way around.

    Science says many things that are against Scripture; sun before earth, no global flood, man was not created but evolved, etc.

    We don’t seem to have a problem rejecting these claims but the same scientists tells us that our universe has evolved from an explosion and they have all the data and pictures to prove it – and somehow it is a heresy to question them? Hmm.

    What a remarkable post, D. Beautifully worded.  I pray that Nick, Gene and the rest read it and take those words to heart.

    #825800
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    No my heart has more important matters in it.

    Your obsession to prove yourself right does not make the cut.

    #825801
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    T8:  I will see your video and raise you another, Mike.

    This one has satisfying answers in it to some of the questions you have asked here.

    Fantastic!  Shall we go through your video point by point… or through Anthony’s written version?  I imagine the written version would be easier, as I can copy and paste each claim, and then address it.  Before I address your guy’s first point (which is also Anthony’s guy’s first point), may I point out that your video starts off with what appears to be a 5-6 time-lapse video supposedly taken from space, and that the clouds don’t move at all during the entire clip? How realistic is that?  I will also point out that the video appears to be showing Australia taking up the majority of that entire half of the globe – with no other body of land (besides Antarctic) in sight.  There is no NZ, but I guess you guys are used to that, based on what I’ve been reading about you being left off a bunch of world maps lately.  🙂  But there isn’t any other land either.  It starts here…

     

     

    And records to here…

     

    But it only shows Australia… not all the other land masses Google Earth shows.

    Anyway, let me also point out the ISS video from 0:45-0:50 shows severely curved solar panels, indicating a fish eye lens, which as you know will make even a perfectly flat horizon look curved.  From 0:50-0:56, the ISS video shows a very bright sunspot on the earth.  While a nearby sun would have that effect, a sun 93 million miles away with light hitting the earth parallel should not leave a localized sunspot.  And if it could, why is there never a sunspot on the moon?

    0:56-1:00 shows even more solar panel curvature due to the fisheye lens they were using… BUT… 1:00-1:07 shows a shot from inside that isn’t using a fisheye lens.  Notice how the straight the panels are in that one… and how razor straight the earth’s horizon is.  🙂  At that point, he clearly admits that he cannot prove the videos from space are real any more than I could prove they are fake.  Of course I can and will prove they are fake, because we all have access to hours and hours of YouTube videos showing many different kinds of NASA fakery.  But we’ll leave that alone for now.

    Anyway, his first claim was that people have known for thousands of years that the earth is a ball.  So let me continue this in a response to Anthony, whose guy starts off with the same claim.

    #825806
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Okay, here are the very first words from the article Anthony linked…

    A few months ago I released an experiment video explaining how Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth using the shadow of sticks. The method was performed almost two millenia ago, and produced quite accurate results (considering the ‘equipment’ used). But it was far from being the only (or first) method to understand our planet’s shape.

    Humanity has known the Earth to be round for a few millenia

    So this is perfect timing, since I told T8 last night that Eratosthenes was the ONLY thing I wanted to discuss with him right now – until we get some closure on it.  So Anthony, T8, and everyone else on the thread…

    Can the shape or circumference of the earth be proven by measuring shadows in two locations?  YES or NO?

    #825807
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi dig4,

    Now you claim the stamp of God’s approval on your fanciful ideas?

    God cannot be wrong but the interpretations of men can be wacky.

     

    Back to my toenails.

     

    #825808
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Fantastic! Shall we go through your video point by point… or through Anthony’s written version? I imagine the written version would be easier, as I can copy and paste each claim, and then address it.

    Yes, let’s do that.

    #825809
    Proclaimer
    Participant

     I will also point out that the video appears to be showing Australia taking up the majority of that entire half of the globe – with no other body of land (besides Antarctic) in sight.  There is no NZ, but I guess you guys are used to that, based on what I’ve been reading about you being left off a bunch of world maps lately.  🙂  But there isn’t any other land either.

    Australia is way bigger than the usual maps show, but yeah I’ll watch the video again when I’m back on my PC. As for NZ not existing, I’m use to that. I’m old enough to remember when we didn’t basically exist from the rest of the worlds perspective. I remember hearing an American accent when I was about 10 years old and was fascinated to hear how other people spoke differently. Nowadays we get visitors from all over the world.

    #825810
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Anthony and Gene, no need to apologize, but accepted nonetheless.  This is hard for a lot of people, including me and D4T.  It’s not like we watched a video and decided on a whim that we would enjoy being called flattard, wack job, idiot, stupid and ridiculous.  We don’t enjoy people laughing us off like we’re crazy, or rolling their eyes at us while giving us an, “Oh you poor ignorant soul” look of pity.  Contrary to Nick’s claim, being thought of as a blathering idiot by 99% of the world is not a good way to boost one’s ego.

    I spent a long time thinking I had lost my mind, because the things the flat earthers were showing me made so much sense, but they went against everything I’ve “known” since I was a small child. There’s just no way in this day and age anyone could possibly think the earth was flat, right?  But the more I researched, the more I discovered how this heliocentric model came to be in the first place, and the reason for it.  I learned how it was built on assumptions, lies, and deceptions… never testable observational evidence.

    Anyway, Solomon said, If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame.” 

    All I’m asking from you is to hear the matter before giving your answer.  Right now I want to show you that people haven’t “known the earth was a ball” for millenia – as is the common claim.  So I await your answer to that question I asked in my last post.

    #825811
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    No joining in your pity party from me.

    I can only hope you make a full recovery and that then we can discuss what is important.

    #825813
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    T8:  As for NZ not existing, I’m use to that. I’m old enough to remember when we didn’t basically exist from the rest of the worlds perspective. 

    I was talking about this new trend…

     

    #825815
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Nick:  Hi Mike,

    No joining in your pity party from me.

    I can only hope you make a full recovery and that then we can discuss what is important.

    Proverbs 18:13

    He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

    Need I say more?

     

    #825816
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    Lk 10.41

    .. ‘Martha, Martha, you are worried and bothered about so many things but only one thing is necessary, for Mary has chosen the good part which will not be taken from her.’

    Acts 17.21

    ( Now all the Athenians and the strangers visiting there used to spend their time in nothing other than telling or hearing something new)

    Spend time wisely.

    #825818
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Nick keeps threatening to leave and not participate, but always comes back for more. Lol. I bet he continues dialogue here. Let’s see.

    #825819
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Did you also forget to make the changes to the site that we asked for?

    Still praying for you.

     

    #825820
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Mike, yes I saw this story on the news the other day. My opinion is its inevitable because the vast majority of countries sit in or on a continent, so impossible to leave out unless you miss a whole continent. However, we don’t have it as bad as Tasmania. Even Australia forgets to add them.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omission_of_Tasmania_from_maps_of_Australia

    #825821
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Nick: “Now you claim the stamp of God’s approval on your fanciful ideas? God cannot be wrong but the interpretations of men can be wacky.”

     

     

    Were they my ideas or were they God’s Word? Did God say that He made the earth before the sun? Did He say that the flood of Noah’s day was world wide? Did He say that man was created and thus did not evolve?

    I’m sure you had no intention to call God’s Word “fanciful”. Standing up for God’s Word will always bring some kind of persecution but stand we must.

    If you want fanciful ideas though keep listening to the scientist that say that nothing became everything and chaos begot order and complexity, and all without any intelligent input.

     

     

     

    #825822
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Dig4,

    Yes I am sure some of your interpretations are correct.

    #825823
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Did God say that He made the earth before the sun?

    Where does it say that. Of course that is possible, but want to know what you are referencing, even though I already have a good idea.

    #825824
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi dig4,

    No I do not think the scientists get everything right either.

    Neither you nor them can claim infallibility.

     

    So tell us again why you think your science is guaranteed by God.

    #825825
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    When did I threaten to leave the site?

    Just to make your day?

     

    No I have not given up on you yet and neither has My Father.

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