A message from a physicist and a message from a flat earther

Physicist

I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.

The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.

Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

This also means that, according to Newton, the earth’s rotation does not have a particularly large effect on gravity.

The sun has the greatest gravitational force in our solar system, approx. 247N/kg or 247 m/s^2, which means that if you fall one meter on the sun, you will hit the “ground” with a speed of 247 m/s. Similarly, 1 kg on the Sun will be 247N, while on Earth 1 kg will only be 9.81N.

We have formulas to calculate the curvature of the earth, and these are very accurate.

Why do some people think the earth is flat? When all scientific findings indicate that all planets are spheres?
All scientific sources on the shape of the plates are available to anyone. Flat earth documentation is not available, logically enough because it doesn’t exist. As a physicist, I must be able to explain observations and natural phenomena through mathematics and scientific models. This is exactly what makes physics so exciting!

A model must be able to explain all phenomena and observations, you can do that on a sphere. On a flat earth it is not possible, so above all one does not use false values.

The globe rotates 360 degrees/24 hours. Our solar system is moving at 600,000m/s towards the center of the Milky Way where there is a gigantic hole with an enormous gravitational force. Since the acceleration is constant, we do not  notice any of this, so Newton’s second law is fulfilled.

If, on the other hand, the earth’s rotation increased or decreased, we would notice it because Newton’s second law will no longer be fulfilled.

I love my subject and am happy to answer questions, but do not respond to sarcasm.

– Physicist

Flat Earther

The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little to be level with the table, it didn’t do that for some reason.

I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

The bible teaches the world is flat, although I cannot find one verse that teaches this.

The flat earth map is accurate and explains observation, although it doubles and triples distances in the southern hemisphere for some reason. But the southern hemisphere kind of doesn’t matter.

The globe earth conspiracy means millions are in on the secret, yet not one person has leaked the truth despite the anonymity of Wikileaks etc for some strange reason,

The flat earth is hidden from the populace because it proves that God exists. Although the scientific view proves an eternal God because the cosmos is so finely tuned for our existence, that the odds of it being random are greater than 1 in a number bigger than all the atoms of the universe. Further it does demonstrate the eternal nature of God, but it is just too big to give God the glory if you have a simple mind. The pizza model and dome on top which BTW to keeps the pizza warm and contained makes it easier to see that there is a God, although not a very impressive one.

– Flat Earther

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  • #826180
    Lightenup
    Participant

    About the first day of creation and the Light…I recently saw this in an ancient Syriac writing of the “Teachings of the Disciples” which I had read before but forgot or missed that it said this about the first day of the week, day one.

    2.  The apostles further appointed:  On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the Holy Scriptures, and the oblation:3068  because on the first day of the week our Lord rose from the place of the dead and on the first day of the week He arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week He ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week He will appear at last with the angels of heaven.3069

    So that is saying:

    On the first day of the week:

    1. Our Lord rose from the place of the dead
    2. He arose upon the world
    3. He ascended up to heaven
    4. He will appear at last with the angels of heaven

    He arose upon the world on the first day of the week…could be in reference of day one of creation. After all, the Son is the Firstborn of all creation.

    To read the ancient writing go here: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf08.ix.vii.html

    #826187
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    An eternal circle’s circumference is a straight line. So a really big circle looks like a straight line too.

    #826189
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Ed: “Because the stars and moon are seen at NIGHT (day 4) and because you need the sun to have the first DAY (day 1)”

     

     

    You know, whatever you want to believe, simply believe it. I’ll stick to the Word of God.

    #826191
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Lightenup: “Thanks for the video. That was terrific, simple and clear. The earth is a globe!”

     

     

    So the atmosphere is rotating with the earth but it doesn’t have an effect on planes flying in different directions?  If it is rotating 1,000+ mph in one direction how then could it not have an effect on a plane flying in the opposite direction?

    The video asks you to hold your hand out of a moving car and feel the force of friction. Ok, now multiply that by several hundred times. Does it have any impact on a plane? You would think that it does. I would too.

    Conservation of motion? The plane already has the spin of the earth at takeoff?

    What about ones going in the opposite direction? There would be a 1,000+ mph discrepancy in their speeds!!

    Please, this stuff just makes the globalists sound silly.

     

     

     

    #826192
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Lightenup, Yeshua was before the world began. Please remember that.

     

    #826194
    Ed J
    Participant

    He called the light “Day”

    #826195
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Dig4,

    The Son was conceived and born of a woman and named Yeshua after that.

    The Word was with God and was God in the beginning.

    The Word was made flesh at the Jordan.

    #826196
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    T8, the circumference of a circle is the distance around it. How you can get a straight line out of that I’m not sure.

    #826197
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Of course the Hebrew word for LIGHT used in Gen 1. 1-5

    is not the same as the Hebrew word for LIGHT in Gen 1. 1-14

    #826198
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Dig4,

    You guys should know.

    You are making straight lines out of circumferences all day long.

    #826199
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Dig4,

    The atmosphere is rotating with the earth??

    Where do the winds of earth come from?

    Why is the westerly predominant?

    #826200
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Mike… tell us have you changed your mind yet after the tons of proof given you, OR ARE YOU STILL IN DENIAL?

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #826201
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    If you have sold out to deception and become a zealous missionary for falsehood

    it is a long and painful return journey.

     

    #826202
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Nick:  “Of course the Hebrew word for LIGHT used in Gen 1. 1-5 is not the same as the Hebrew word for LIGHT in Gen 1. 1-14”

     

     

    Do you stop to think about what you are saying? Gen. 1:1-5 overlaps Gen 1:1-14. Please back up your assertion with the proper Strongs concordance or something as accepted by Hebrew scholars.

    Come on Nick, don’t just throw random insinuations around.

     

     

     

    #826203
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick….The jet streams move the air around creating high pressure and low pressure points. The wind rushes to nutralize the pressure differences, drawing the clouds with it, if they are available, otherwise we have just dry winds. That is the way i understand it.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #826204
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Nick, there’s always one in every debate forum. One that is there to only cause confusion and dissent. I’m not saying who that “someone” is but I would be willing to bet you know him well.

    #826205
    Dig4truth
    Participant

    Nick:”You guys should know. You are making straight lines out of circumferences all day long.”

     

     

    Nick, can you give one quote where we have done that?

    If not then you are … ignored!

     

    #826206
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Yea Nick, i think Mike would have a hard time saying he is wrong even with the tons of proofs staring him in the face. I don’t think he has convienced one person here of a Flat Earth yet, that i know of.

    We can’t say he didn’t try, i still love him though.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #826207
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The atmosphere moves with the Earth’s rotation

    So the atmosphere is rotating with the earth but it doesn’t have an effect on planes flying in different directions?  If it is rotating 1,000+ mph in one direction how then could it not have an effect on a plane flying in the opposite direction?

    The video asks you to hold your hand out of a moving car and feel the force of friction. Ok, now multiply that by several hundred times. Does it have any impact on a plane? You would think that it does. I would too.

    But the point is if you are inside the car, you essentially have the atmosphere contained and can throw the ball in the air and catch it as if you were stationary. Whereas, if you tried the same thing on a bike, then no such luck. Because the atmosphere is not contained to your point of reference. Likewise, Earth’s atmosphere is contained or aligned with the Earth itself, so even though you are on a moving earth. you throw a ball in the air and catch it as if you were stationary.  At some point though the ball would move away. If you propelled the ball into space, outside the earth and atmosphere, then that would be like throwing the ball from a moving motorbike. So the Earth and atmosphere works like being inside a car.

    Personally, I always wondered about such things and have googled space elevators for example. They are theoretical elevators and that lift you up and when the Earth has moved underneath you, drop you back down at your desired destination along the line or orbital direction of course. Seems like a better way to travel than a plane that needs to actually propel you to your destination. Of course, the downside is you have to be lifted incredibly high to escape the atmosphere that gravity is influencing. And then you realise that you probably need more energy to do that, than stay lower and move horizontally following the earth’s curve. Here is a video about space elevators.

    #826208
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Hi Dig4truth,

    you said:

    Lightenup, Yeshua was before the world began. Please remember that.

    Of course, He was eternally within the Father before He was begotten on day one. Then, all things went from formless to formed by Him and for Him.

    Is this your confession Dig:

    Do you confess and believe in Christ who was crucified, and do you confess that He is from everlasting-the Son of God?

    And also

    Him who was with His Father from eternity and from everlasting; God, who was hidden in the height, and appeared in the depth; the glorious Son, who was from His Father, and is to be glorified, together with His Father, and His divine Spirit. And He was crucified of His own will by the hands of sinners, and was taken up to His Father,  and He is to come again, in His own glory and that of His holy angels.

    Do you confess those things?

     

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