A message from a physicist and a message from a flat earther

Physicist

I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.

The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.

Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

This also means that, according to Newton, the earth’s rotation does not have a particularly large effect on gravity.

The sun has the greatest gravitational force in our solar system, approx. 247N/kg or 247 m/s^2, which means that if you fall one meter on the sun, you will hit the “ground” with a speed of 247 m/s. Similarly, 1 kg on the Sun will be 247N, while on Earth 1 kg will only be 9.81N.

We have formulas to calculate the curvature of the earth, and these are very accurate.

Why do some people think the earth is flat? When all scientific findings indicate that all planets are spheres?
All scientific sources on the shape of the plates are available to anyone. Flat earth documentation is not available, logically enough because it doesn’t exist. As a physicist, I must be able to explain observations and natural phenomena through mathematics and scientific models. This is exactly what makes physics so exciting!

A model must be able to explain all phenomena and observations, you can do that on a sphere. On a flat earth it is not possible, so above all one does not use false values.

The globe rotates 360 degrees/24 hours. Our solar system is moving at 600,000m/s towards the center of the Milky Way where there is a gigantic hole with an enormous gravitational force. Since the acceleration is constant, we do not  notice any of this, so Newton’s second law is fulfilled.

If, on the other hand, the earth’s rotation increased or decreased, we would notice it because Newton’s second law will no longer be fulfilled.

I love my subject and am happy to answer questions, but do not respond to sarcasm.

– Physicist

Flat Earther

The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little to be level with the table, it didn’t do that for some reason.

I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

The bible teaches the world is flat, although I cannot find one verse that teaches this.

The flat earth map is accurate and explains observation, although it doubles and triples distances in the southern hemisphere for some reason. But the southern hemisphere kind of doesn’t matter.

The globe earth conspiracy means millions are in on the secret, yet not one person has leaked the truth despite the anonymity of Wikileaks etc for some strange reason,

The flat earth is hidden from the populace because it proves that God exists. Although the scientific view proves an eternal God because the cosmos is so finely tuned for our existence, that the odds of it being random are greater than 1 in a number bigger than all the atoms of the universe. Further it does demonstrate the eternal nature of God, but it is just too big to give God the glory if you have a simple mind. The pizza model and dome on top which BTW to keeps the pizza warm and contained makes it easier to see that there is a God, although not a very impressive one.

– Flat Earther

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  • #943758
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    In order to preserve the flat earth lie, proponents simply ignore the facts.

    Here is one:

    moon

    There is no excuse for flat earth lies. Such facts for the globe are easily verifiable. If truth is not hard to discover, then only liars will deny it.

    Liars do not inherit the kingdom of God.

    #943768
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    No lie is of God

    How come flat earthers never bring up this experiment that Bob Knodel did to prove earth’s rotation? The fact that it was done by a prominent flat earther makes it all the more delightful. What it also proved was that flat earthers are not scientists but cultists. When the experiment didn’t go his way he looked for ways to disprove it. That fact alone tells us that these people are all about lies. Whatever it takes to keep up the belief of the cult. It’s so obvious it’s painful and yet all the flerfs just ignore it.

    What’s ironic is that most of them tell us that the bible is all we should need to believe that the earth is flat, yet at the same time the bible tells us not to deceive or lie, which is exactly what Bob’s next plan of action was.

    Flat Earthers Spent $20,000 Only To Prove That Earth Isn’t Flat

    #943771
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    All flat earth evidence has been debunked in this thread.

    No, that’s a lie.
    Lies come from the father of lies.

    #943775
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Okay  let’s see who the liar is. Give me one example that can’t be and hasn’t been debunked. I’ll wait.

    #943780
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    You don’t get the point. You may have addressed every proof. I don’t know.
    But that doesn’t mean that the proofs are debunked.
    That was my point.

    #943799
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    @dannyd

    You don’t get the point. You may have addressed every proof. I don’t know.
    But that doesn’t mean that the proofs are debunked.
    That was my point.

    Give me one then. If you cannot, then you are not a man of your own word.

    If you can’t back up your words then don’t say it.

    #943798
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    It’s truly amazing that Flat Earthers will not believe their own eyes but will believe everything that their cult leaders teach them, even lying about what the Bible clearly says: Psalms 50:1 and 113:3 speak of “From the rising of the sun to its going down” Indicating that the sun goes up and down over the horizon and NOT around in a big circle shrinking and disappearing into the distance as Flat Earthers falsely claim. But it seems that Flat Earthers are affected by some form of “strong delusion” and “unrighteous deception” – “because they did not receive the love of the truth” just as described in 2 Thessalonians 2:10.

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    #943807
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    Your debunking arguments aren’t necessarily true.
    Everybody can post some google material.
    Just to be fair, I did the same.
    Let the people decide which position is true or false.
    Are you fair enough to leave it at that?

    #943811
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Unless you are in the flat earth cult:

    • Anyone can see that all the flat earth arguments here have been debunked by science.
    • Anyone can see that there are zero bible verses that state that the earth is flat.
    • Anyone can see that flat earthers are in a cult and they preach lies.

    So am I willing to leave it there and let people decide?

    They have already decided against the flat earth theory.

    But the interesting thing about your question about leaving it so others can make their own mind up is that you are still in the deception and happy to remain there and happy to keep lying about the flat earth being scientific and biblical.

    Shame on you. You will get what you deserve because you respect not the truth and the facts.

    You are happy to remain in the deception.

    And because of that, no one can trust a word you say about other biblical subjects here, even if you are correct. You have a bad reputation. I am telling you the truth.

    Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?

    Who will take you seriously about anything. No one but flat earthers in your same situation. This is the harsh reality. This is why Flat Earthers join echo chambers. As it is written:

    For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear.

    #943812
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    BTW, the fact that you cannot even put forward one argument that you feel hasn’t been debunked proves that you know nothing about the subject of our planet. Science and truth mean little to you it appears.

    #943817
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    You: Shame on you. You will get what you deserve because you respect not the truth and the facts.

    Me: You are a liar and a hypocrite.

    #943818
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I see that you are not interested in repenting, rather just imposing what you should be dealing with onto others. Adam blamed Eve and she blamed the serpent. Very human of you.

    For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

    When pride comes, then comes disgrace,
    but with humility comes wisdom.

    Humble yourselves, therefore, under God’s mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time.

    #943819
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

    #943822
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    Listen Proclaimer, I’ve tried to be fair to you, but no, you had to push it.

    When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. Proverbs 11:2

    #943823
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Pride includes being given truth, but sticking to lies anyway. Pride stops people from learning like children do. They become haughty and rely on their own understanding because they hold their view in high esteem to the point of placing it above truth itself.

    A real student is humble and learns truth because they know that they have need, are inadequate, and will hold onto truth and learn from it. And with that, they gain experience and wisdom which they can pas on to others.

    #943824
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    It is better to deal with lies now and embrace the light than learn of the lies you have been involved in on judgment day. Everyday you are alive on earth is God’s grace. Don’t throw it away.

    #943831
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Best to face the truth here and test all things to see if they are so. This way, you will spare yourself from propagating lies and the consequences of those lies. Seriously. This is no laughing matter. You either love truth or you don’t care about it and thus open yourself to deception.

    #943833
    Proclaimer
    Participant

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    #943856
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Think Dan think

    moon

    Does this look like a self-illuminating light?

    No its light comes from the Sun.

    God created two lights and the moon is a light.

    But it’s light comes from the sun.

    Similarly, God is light but we can the be the light of the world.

    That light comes from God not us, yet we can be light too because we reflect God’s light.

    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

    Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

    Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

    #943866
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

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