A message from a physicist and a message from a flat earther

Physicist

I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.

The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.

Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).

This also means that, according to Newton, the earth’s rotation does not have a particularly large effect on gravity.

The sun has the greatest gravitational force in our solar system, approx. 247N/kg or 247 m/s^2, which means that if you fall one meter on the sun, you will hit the “ground” with a speed of 247 m/s. Similarly, 1 kg on the Sun will be 247N, while on Earth 1 kg will only be 9.81N.

We have formulas to calculate the curvature of the earth, and these are very accurate.

Why do some people think the earth is flat? When all scientific findings indicate that all planets are spheres?
All scientific sources on the shape of the plates are available to anyone. Flat earth documentation is not available, logically enough because it doesn’t exist. As a physicist, I must be able to explain observations and natural phenomena through mathematics and scientific models. This is exactly what makes physics so exciting!

A model must be able to explain all phenomena and observations, you can do that on a sphere. On a flat earth it is not possible, so above all one does not use false values.

The globe rotates 360 degrees/24 hours. Our solar system is moving at 600,000m/s towards the center of the Milky Way where there is a gigantic hole with an enormous gravitational force. Since the acceleration is constant, we do not  notice any of this, so Newton’s second law is fulfilled.

If, on the other hand, the earth’s rotation increased or decreased, we would notice it because Newton’s second law will no longer be fulfilled.

I love my subject and am happy to answer questions, but do not respond to sarcasm.

– Physicist

Flat Earther

The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little to be level with the table, it didn’t do that for some reason.

I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.

The bible teaches the world is flat, although I cannot find one verse that teaches this.

The flat earth map is accurate and explains observation, although it doubles and triples distances in the southern hemisphere for some reason. But the southern hemisphere kind of doesn’t matter.

The globe earth conspiracy means millions are in on the secret, yet not one person has leaked the truth despite the anonymity of Wikileaks etc for some strange reason,

The flat earth is hidden from the populace because it proves that God exists. Although the scientific view proves an eternal God because the cosmos is so finely tuned for our existence, that the odds of it being random are greater than 1 in a number bigger than all the atoms of the universe. Further it does demonstrate the eternal nature of God, but it is just too big to give God the glory if you have a simple mind. The pizza model and dome on top which BTW to keeps the pizza warm and contained makes it easier to see that there is a God, although not a very impressive one.

– Flat Earther

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  • #942654
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Good advice for everyone dannyd.

    And we know that no lie is of God. All lies have a father.

    My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand.

    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    If we follow Jesus Christ, we are led into all truth.

    If we follow the god of this age, we will be deceived and believe and repeat lies.

    #942656
    Proclaimer
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    If the earth was flat then we should be able to see things like Europe with the same telescopes that can see other galaxies.

    telescopes

    Think man think. Lol.

    #942660
    Proclaimer
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    FE: Show us Australia upside down from space?

    Glober: Think man think. This view is from the ISS showing an aurora. What would happen if the craft was oriented the 180 degrees? The earth would look upright. You could also flip the photo. Photos are oriented the way that makes more sense to our minds. Up and down is not the same as FE uppity and downity.

    earth

    #942673
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. John 8:44

    #942686
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    It’s incredible how some people without access to proper education dismiss education as fraudulent. Nonetheless, basic observations of the Earth confirm it to be a planet. In fact, humans deduced the Earth’s spherical shape approximately 2500 years ago by observing the following:

    1. Ships sailing off into the sea
    2. Lunar eclipses
    3. The horizon at greater heights
    4. The sun’s size during the day and sunrise/sunsets
    5. Changes in star positions when moving North-South (but not East-West)
    6. Comparing shadow lengths
    7. Tides These factors still hold valid today, and we can add the movement of the sun, moon, and stars in the Southern Hemisphere compared to the Northern Hemisphere to the list.

    The global Earth theory accounts for all these observations, whereas the flat Earth theory fails every time. Anyone can make these observations and draw the same conclusions, irrespective of their educational background. Not to mention, there are thousands of scientific, technological, and engineering pieces of evidence that support the globe. Additionally, millions of individuals work in industries associated with this evidence.

    Sharing memes won’t change these facts and nor will calling people names with zero evidence.

    #942689
    Proclaimer
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    Stabilized Sky Time lapse Visualizes Earth’s Rotation

    Why stabilize it? To remove ourselves on the surface of the earth in order to see it from the perspective of not moving with the rotation of the earth.

    #942715
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    Flat Earth evidence that actually shows curvature

    This completely debunks Mike’s old and tired arguments about seeing things we shouldn’t see if the earth was a globe. Of course, he was debunked ages ago regarding this. But this video makes it simple. Enjoy!

    #942717
    Proclaimer
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    Uppity and Downity debunked

    You need to watch this @dannyd.

    #942726
    Danny Dabbs
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    @proclaimer

    Sharing memes won’t change these facts and nor will calling people names with zero evidence.

    Denying all evidences for the flat earth doesn’t help your case.
    It only shows that you are dishonest.
    By the way, you are using a lot of memes and name calling as well. Hypocrite!

    #942729
    Proclaimer
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    What I am saying and these memes are the truth.

    If you feel insulted by the truth, then it is you who needs to change and not the truth.

    Truth doesn’t change because of a person’s feelings.

    Further, I said calling people names with ZERO evidence.

    If the name is accurate and true, then so be it.

    #942731
    Proclaimer
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    truth

    #942767
    Danny Dabbs
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    @proclaimer

    If I have falsely accused you then I apologize.

    #942768
    Proclaimer
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    Apology accepted danny.

    #942789
    Proclaimer
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    Game Set Match

    I think we approached the point a long time ago where there’s nothing left to say to flat earthers.
    We have debunked their theory using science,
    We have debunked their theory using math,
    We have debunked their theory using their own logic,
    We have debunked their theory using our own observations,
    We have debunked their theory using The Bible.

    It’s just a matter of regurgitating what has already been said. Copy and paste. Easy!

    #942796
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    Just to be fair, there are many flat earth and geocentric model proofs in this thread as well.

    #942797
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Repost the best example or a good example and I will address it.

    #942807
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    Tesla Quote Debunk

    Another lie perpetrate by flat earthers.

    Tesla

    The quote was originally circulated in “flat earth” groups on Facebook and was attributed to a source other than Nikola Tesla. After reviewing the quote, experts on Tesla’s works and writings have confirmed that the quote is not from the Serbian inventor. The last sentence of the quote is a distorted version of a line from a 1900 essay by Tesla, but it has been altered significantly in both substance and meaning. The rest of the quote is believed to be from another author and has no connection to Tesla.

    False – This meme has no basis in fact.

    Tesla ‘quote’ about earth not on solid ground

     

    #942819
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    The best proof is a simple, practical and logical one.

    34. If the Earth were a globe, there certainly would be—if we could imagine the thing to be peopled all round—“antipodes:” “people who,” says the dictionary, “living exactly on the opposite side of the globe to ourselves, have their feet opposite to ours:”—people who are hanging heads downwards whilst we are standing heads up! But, since the theory allows us to travel to those parts of the Earth where the people are said to be heads downwards, and still to fancy ourselves to be heads upwards and our friends whom we have left behind us to be heads downwards, it follows that the whole thing is a myth—a dream—a delusion—and a snare; and, instead of there being any evidence at all in this direction to substantiate the popular theory, it is a plain proof that the Earth is not a globe.

    This is from the Book One Hundred Proofs that the Earth is Not a Globe
    by William Carpenter

    #942831
    Proclaimer
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    Hi Danny.

    This video might be too complicated for you to grasp, but I suggest giving it a go anyway.

    It’s astounding that this has to be explained.

    #942837
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    The reason you can’t argue with a flat earther is because the ones you could argue with realized they were wrong and stopped being flat earthers.

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