Are people born homosexual?

Eight identical twin studies in the U.S, Australia, & Scandinavia over the last couple of decades arrive at the same conclusion: Homosexuals were not born that way. This is said proof that homosexuality is not genetic.

“At best genetics is a minor factor,” says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics.

Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.

“Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.”

Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.”

The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.

Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,” things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other.

For example, one twin might have exposure to pornography or sexual abuse, but not the other. One twin may interpret and respond to their family or classroom environment differently than the other. “These individual and idiosyncratic responses to random events and to common environmental factors predominate,” he says.

The first very large, reliable study of identical twins was conducted in Australia in 1991, followed by a large U.S. study about 1997. Then Australia and the U.S. conducted more twin studies in 2000, followed by several studies in Scandinavia, according to Dr. Whitehead.

“Twin registers are the foundation of modern twin studies. They are now very large, and exist in many countries. A gigantic European twin register with a projected 600,000 members is being organized, but one of the largest in use is in Australia, with more than 25,000 twins on the books.”

A significant twin study among adolescents shows an even weaker genetic correlation. In 2002 Bearman and Brueckner studied tens of thousands of adolescent students in the U.S. The same-sex attraction concordance between identical twins was only 7.7% for males and 5.3% for females—lower than the 11% and 14% in the Australian study by Bailey et al conducted in 2000.

In the identical twin studies, Dr. Whitehead has been struck by how fluid and changeable sexual identity can be.

“Neutral academic surveys show there is substantial change. About half of the homosexual/bisexual population (in a non-therapeutic environment) moves towards heterosexuality over a lifetime. About 3% of the present heterosexual population once firmly believed themselves to be homosexual or bisexual.”

“Sexual orientation is not set in concrete,” he notes.

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  • #816086
    Proclaimer
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    ” Not every homosexual is handed over and I do not know why one is and another is not except to say it is part of his plan.”

    This can be said of any sin. People are handed over to particular sins when they have pushed too far in that direction. This happens when they meditate on it enough and final commit it and then continue in that sin. But we can do the things of the Spirit and then we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. The more we do in Jesus name, the less we do in any other name. In the end our accumulated choices determine the kind of lifestyle we will have lived. Of course we all sin and we all fall, but some people make a lifestyle out if certain sins while others fall for them from time to time and repent.

    #816123
    GeneBalthrop
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    HI….I BELIEVE when we give in to our lusts it is to teach us of by the consequences of them. WE should all understand we are being taught by GOD, as Jesus said. I have noticed if we engage in a sin and continue by not repenting, our state as we continue gets worse and worse, u till we repent of it, and the GOD restores us again.

    As far as homesexuality goes , it is a sin, but Jesus did say, in the day of judgement it would be more tolerably for Sodom and Gomorrah then for the pharisees of his day. ALL manner of sin shall be forgiven man, except blasphemy of the spirit it shall not be forgiven in this life or the next, we are told.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #816144
    AndrewAD
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    That’s a good point Gene,so maybe there’s more hope for sexual perverts than holy religious pharisees? Surely that can’t be the case can it? Weren’t Sodom and Gomorrah damned already anyway for their stubborn sexual perversions? Idk why Jesus would even make such a statement unless he really just despised the pharisees that much for disagreeing with and not accepting him.

    #816155
    AndrewAD
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    Dear Kerwin,

    “You are seeing what is not in my writing”  But of course the so called omniscience and omnipotence have to take a backseat to man’s freedom.That’s okay with me too but I don’t think Paul saw it that way according to Rom 9,10, and 11.And yes of course it applies to all sins no matter which way we look at it.

    #816362
    princess
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    Sin: reference the Holy Bible it’s all there in black and white

    Quick question.

    When the biblical men of the bible had many wives do you think they took one at a time to bed with them?

     

    #816432
    AndrewAD
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    Princess,

    “Quick question.

    When the biblical men of the bible had many wives do you think they took one at a time to bed with them?”

    If you read the book of Genesis the answer would appear yes only one at a time.So just what is your point?

    #816497
    princess
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    Andrew a whole book to reference is a little vague, could you narrow it down a bit.  There isn’t really a point to be made is there, thought we were discussing why people are homosexual?

    #816498
    kerwin
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    AndrewAD,

    Peter is correct about some of Paul’s writing being hard to understand and we have less than the individuals his letters were addressed to as we lack some if not most of the unwritten context. Even when it is clear some people still misunderstand him.

    #816502
    AndrewAD
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    I’m not concerned right now about Peter not understanding Paul but I don’t understand what Princess point/question is? I agree that we were talking about why some people are homosexual,but she changed the subject to a question about polygamy;did you not Princess? as I asked before I ask again,what is the point of your question? is it that polygamy is as much a sin as homosexuality? if so polygamy is only perhaps a sin in one book of the bible where it says a deacon should be married to only one wife. Homosexuality is condemned in both the old and new testaments.

    #816521
    princess
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    @Andrew give me your take on this. If a biblical man has many wives and let’s just say he ‘happened’ to find himself in bed with two wives, not saying any upstanding biblical man would even think such a thing, just hypothetical. Would you consider this homosexuality?

    #816535
    AndrewAD
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    And just why should that be considered homosexuality since it’s still with the opposite sex? a sin maybe to most but not homosexuality.

    #816539
    AndrewAD
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    So by your question you do admit it was you changed the subject? unless you are trying to say that polygamy is somehow homosexuality? please explain.

    #816547
    Proclaimer
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    If we are born slaves to sin then how are our wills free?

    All men have a conscience and the spirit convicts all men of sin, righteousness, and judgment.

    We can also be led by the Spirit from with in.

    Free will is choosing among these options. We are not without help. God has not left us defenseless against sin and evil and the inevitable conclusion of not being able to overcome.

    God is love. He sent his son into the world to die for our sins and save sinners. After his work, he didn’t abandon us, but left is with another. The Spirit empowers Believers and they can choose to be led by the Spirit or by the flesh. This is the choice we have.

    #816549
    AndrewAD
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    Are you sure it’s “another” T8? Jesus said he’d come to us and not leave us as orphans.Am I wrong on that point?

    And since we are not slaves to sin then I suppose we can all merit salvation by our own free will decisions?

    #816552
    princess
    Participant

    your saying just because there is an opposing gender in the midst it is not consider homosexuality?

    so it has to be one on one to be consider ‘abomination’ but another gender joins in ‘it is just a sin’

    hahahahaha!

    #816561
    AndrewAD
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    Ok so what is your definition of homosexuality? can you even define that?  hahahahah!!!

    And when did I mention the word abomination? I know I didn’t but I think your God might have.

    #816562
    princess
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    remember Andrew you speaking with someone that doesn’t have a god, for choice of better terms. I can just pull from the book, most is from memory.

    idk know no one has ever ask me.

    I would lean to say that having a desire of the flesh of the same sex.

    what do you think it is?

    #816567
    AndrewAD
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    I wasn’t referring to a book but to your own definition. And so now you say just having a sexual desire for the same gender is homosexuality. Ok fine but why did you bring polygamy into the topic then?

    And I think it’s having and even wanting to have sex with the same gender. I think that definition is even politically correct or would you disagree?

    #816569
    AndrewAD
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    And there’s no need to all of a sudden play stupid with me when I know you know what the OT that you favor says.

    “I can just pull from the book, most is from memory” yes that’s how it is with most of us too.

    #816586
    princess
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    Jesus said, some will say they know me and I will say to them I never knew you……..it’s kinda like that with you.

     

     

     

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