Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,14:16)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2011,03:31)The Joke is on you Mike because you cannot tell us in what way Jesus is not “God Almighty”, because you can't say he isn't called God, and you sure can't show us a scripture that says he is not God Almighty can you?Hi Keith,Are you saying you can't refute what I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,13:56)Because for now, I got what I wanted.  You have admitted that being called “elohim” is not proof in and of itself.MikeI will address your other points later but for now let it be know to all that you can never claim that you always answer our questions and we never answer yours.Why did you avoid my question…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 22 2011,11:30)wj, your response is unacceptable, for it does not apply to the question asked. is there any other scripture that supports the one you present? a yes or no is sufficent for me.PrincessSure it is a proper response. Scripture is scripture isn't it? Do we have to have duplicate scriptures for every scripture?How…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,00:41)And you are right that he is not God Almighty, but he is as much an elohim as Jesus or Deborah are.MikeYou have got to be kidding.  So then if being called “elohim” means they are just as much “elohim” as the other then that means they are “elohim” as much as YHVH is “elohim”? WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,00:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2011,05:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2011,19:31)Are there elohim mentioned in scripture who are neither “God Almighty” nor “false gods”?MikeYesThanks Keith,But I already have your answer.  You are the one who has HONESTLY admitted the only thing I ever set out to prove so…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 21 2011,23:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2011,05:22)No because she is a mortal human being and not ” a god” at all. Context says she is “elohim” (little e) and if elohim can also mean Judge (which it does) then it should be translated as Judge. Now if the context said they were bowing down to her and officering…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 22 2011,10:24)wj, you know very well t8 brings more then one scripture forth for understanding. even though t8 post are far and inbetween they are powerful.  i can find many that support the scriptures t8 presents, however, i cannot find another to support yours. please explain why this is.Is Mattew 28:19 scripture or not?WJ

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 22 2011,05:11)Jesus is not God.Quote (t8 @ Jan. 22 2011,05:04)Satan is a God. He is the God of this age. Quote (t8 @ Jan. 22 2011,05:04)Satan is still a God, the God of this age.Hi AllDoes anyone see the confusion in the above statemens by t8? Why does it seem that the anti Jesus is God crowd seek to diminish Jesus rather than…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 21 2011,22:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2011,07:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2011,20:59)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 21 2011,09:56)Keith,JA ran out of arguments. Rather than be humble and concede he hurled insults.jackSimilar to the way YOU do things, huh?  MikeWas that needed?WJAre you flippin' KIDDING…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 21 2011,21:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2011,07:59)Sure you can name many trinities, binities etc, but can you put them together as sharing all authority and power, and all having the same attributes and characteristics and all sharing the same name?What about 1 Timothy 5:21“I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 21 2011,17:09)WJ said to t8:Quote The qualitative thing doesn't help you t8 since Jesus is the radiance of the Fathers Glory, the essence of his person, and the visible image of the invisible God.Yes Keith! As the RADIANCE of God's glory Jesus IS God touching people as the radiance of the sun IS the sun touching…[Read more]

Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Jan. 21 2011,15:45)It is really not that hard.For us there is one God the Father.Yes and for us there is but “One Lord! Do you not consider the Father Lord? If So why do you exclude Jesus from being God?Quote (t8 @ Jan. 21 2011,15:45)for others there are others WHO are God.Are you saying Jesus is not “a God”? Please don't play the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 21 2011,05:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2011,05:45)Hi AllThe topic of this debate was is their a “Trinity” in the Bible. Matthew 28:19 is proof itself that Jesus spoke himself of the three (a trinity).This debate is now open to anyone else that wants to respond to it.If anyone else has any input feel free to post here…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2011,21:02)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2011,05:45)Hi AllThe topic of this debate was is their a “Trinity” in the Bible. Matthew 28:19 is proof itself that Jesus spoke himself of the three (a trinity).This debate is now open to anyone else that wants to respond to it.If anyone else has any input feel free to post…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2011,20:59)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 21 2011,09:56)Keith,JA ran out of arguments. Rather than be humble and concede he hurled insults.jackSimilar to the way YOU do things, huh?  MikeWas that needed?WJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2011,20:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2011,08:04)MikeListen to your words… “But it says some of us will also be “one” with them, right? “”WE WILL BE ONE WITH THEM.”, do you see it?If we will be one with them, then that means that Jesus is not part of the “ones that will be one with them” is he?Yes Keith,Great…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2011,12:57)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2011,03:59)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 20 2011,19:39)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 21 2011,04:29)Quote When WJ is confronted with the truth of a Scripture, he moves off in a different direction to avoid a response or just accuses the one of some other distracting and often unfounded…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2011,19:31)Are there elohim mentioned in scripture who are neither “God Almighty” nor “false gods”?MikeYes, they are either false gods, or so-called gods, or judges, leaders, rulers or it can can be God Almighty depending on the context.Where are the scriptures where anyone calls “Deborah” their God or my God, or Moses…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2011,18:52)And you have yet to answer about Deborah, elohim of Israel.  Was she a “false god”?  Was she God Almighty?No because she is a mortal human being and not ” a god” at all. Context says she is “elohim” (little e) and if elohim can also mean Judge (which it does) then it should be translated as Judge. Now if t…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 21 2011,03:33)I mean if you can do that, than i ALSO can do the same, and we are just stuck in the same line of reasoning. This is what i see as UNFAIR. You are asking us to accept your claims becasue “in the words of the scholars who have tirelessly studied those scriptures and have defined the Hebrew and Greek words…[Read more]