Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 24 2011,21:36)Jack,One question:  YES or NO.Does the creation of God RADIATE the glory of God?mikeMikeYou see Mike. This is what we are talking about. Jack has already answered you here.Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 16 2011,09:59)Mike,Why won't you prove your thesis? If all creation radiates the glory of God, then how…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 24 2011,18:13)Or maybe you could show me any occasion in the history of mankind where a representation OF something or someone actually WAS that something or someone?Hi MikeOnce again, that is the problem isn't it Mike. You don't have any example where someone can be the “exact representation” of someone else. Every humans…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 24 2011,18:16)Keith and Marty,Shouldn't this Matt 28:19 discussion be on the JA vs WJ thread?mikeMkeTrue. It is brought up because Marty believes it is a corrupt passage.Blessings WJ

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 24 2011,17:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2011,08:43)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 24 2011,15:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2011,06:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 24 2011,12:13)Hi WJ:Also, your source states:Quote It was considered by some of the Church Fathers as part of the New Testament but rejected as spurious or…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 24 2011,15:21)You pointed to the fact that the Didache included the Tri-forumula for baptism, but if is not canon, then what does that prove.MartyThere is much in history that can help us understand how to interpret the scriptures. Why do you think we need Hebrew and Greek Lexicons? So that we can search these things out for…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 24 2011,15:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2011,06:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 24 2011,12:13)Hi WJ:Also, your source states:Quote It was considered by some of the Church Fathers as part of the New Testament but rejected as spurious or non-canonical by others, eventually not accepted into the New Testament canon. The mode of…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 24 2011,12:13)Hi WJ:Also, your source states:Quote It was considered by some of the Church Fathers as part of the New Testament but rejected as spurious or non-canonical by others, eventually not accepted into the New Testament canon. The mode of baptism does not agree with how the Apostles baptized, does it?Love in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 24 2011,11:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2011,03:36)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 24 2011,11:24)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2011,03:16)The Concept of Truth is beyond our understanding.Hi SF,Why would you say this?Ed JMaybe because of statements like this…For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 24 2011,11:48)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2011,05:57)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 19 2011,21:04)I am saying that the Tri-une formula is a fabrication because I know that the Holy Spirit is not a “Third Person” of a Tri-une God, but is the Spirit of God my Father.Please MartyThen everytime that you bring up a scripture that we…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 24 2011,03:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2011,03:05)Hi AllDoes anyone see the confusion in the above statements by t8? Why does it seem that the anti Jesus is God crowd seek to diminish Jesus rather than exalt him?It appears here that satan is greater than Jesus, yet we know that Jesus has all authority and power and all…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 24 2011,11:24)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2011,03:16)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 24 2011,02:01)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 24 2011,17:36)The Concept of Truth is beyond our understanding.Hi SF,Why would you say this?Ed JMaybe because of statements like this…For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,19:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2011,10:09)You left out the word “exact”. If someone is an “exact” representation of you then it is you or it is not “exact” is it?Keith,Look up the word “representation”.  Even if Jesus was an EXACT CARBON COPY of God, he is still NOT the original, or he wouldn't be called…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 24 2011,02:01)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 24 2011,17:36)The Concept of Truth is beyond our understanding.Hi SF,Why would you say this?Ed JMaybe because of statements like this…For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. Isa 55:9Jesus spoke many…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 27 2010,17:59)After all it is written that not all should be teachers as teaching incurs a greater judgement, both good and bad and Scripture and Doctrine is really a place for teachers. Whereas in Truth and Tradition for example, that is a great place for opinions and ideas, as well as teaching.Hi t8So who will manage that and…[Read more]

Quote (francis @ Jan. 22 2011,23:09)Quote Mike wrote to Keith:But it's not right for you to make this thread in support OF Francis, but then try to wrangle control of the debate away from him.  I will wait for him, so you too will have to wait a little longer.If you both want to take over our debate, I won't hold it against either of you… and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2011,06:15)EdOh I see. I have to come to a place where I “agree” with your proposed truth or I am running away?  Ha Ha. Some of us are smart enough to not waste our time going in circles with someone who is already convinced.Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 23 2011,02:47)My goal is merely to show that truth; if you choose to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,10:36)Bump for JackThe Father cannot be said to be the “exact representation” of God, for He IS God.Why not? God has form, and whatever that form is “represents” him.  Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,10:36)For anyone or anything to be a representation of something, those two things cannot be the same thing.You…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 22 2011,15:43)Mike said:Quote Thank you!  So when Jesus is referred to as “elohim”, it is NOT any kind of proof that he is God Almighty.Poor try Mike. I am not arguing from the word “God” alone in reference to Jesus. I am not one dimensional in my thinking as you are. I am arguing from the fact that qualities which…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2011,03:31)The Joke is on you Mike because you cannot tell us in what way Jesus is not “God Almighty”, because you can't say he isn't called God, and you sure can't show us a scripture that says he is not God Almighty can you?  Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,13:56)Wow, that is sooooooooo weak.  I “can't show t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2011,13:56) Hmmm……..where else in scripture is a SERVANT OF GOD ALMIGHTY referred to as “elohim”?    Oooh, oooh, I know one!  Hebrews 1:8!         You mean a servant of “ruler Almighty” don’t you? Who is “Ruler Almighty”? I don’t see any translations rendering “theos” that way do you? So what authority or what righ…[Read more]