Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2013,14:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,23:43)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 22 2013,18:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,10:56)Bump for t8Matrix: “Its the question”.Yes God GAVE Jesus that.Good, then how can satan be the god of this earth?If Jesus is “a god” as you and Mike believe and he has all authority in earth…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,13:32)Keith…touche'!Very well put Thanks KathiI feel I owe you an apology from my last discourse with you but I haven't been around here until now.I remember being a little harsh and ask for your forgiveness.Blessings WJ

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2013,14:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,23:22)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2013,11:37)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,13:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,14:28)No, Jesus is not the Father but Jesus nature is God!Didn't you just say “God” was a “title”?…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 22 2013,18:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,10:56)Bump for t8Matrix: “Its the question”.Yes God GAVE Jesus that.Good, then how can satan be the god of this earth/world?If Jesus is “a god” as you and Mike believe and he has all authority in earth then it would mean he is the God of this earth/world.WJ

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2013,04:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,22:27)Been down this road.If this scripture means that only the Father is God then it must also mean only Jesus is Lord! WJPlaying with the word Lord as you do is just your way of attacking the scriptures that are teaching us that there is one God the Father, and one Lord the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2013,04:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,22:27)Been down this road.If this scripture means that only the Father is God then it must also mean only Jesus is Lord! WJDid it ever occur to you that God is perhaps greater than Lord.Yep he is….“Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2013,11:37)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,13:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,14:28)No, Jesus is not the Father but Jesus nature is God!Didn't you just say “God” was a “title”?  Explain to me how “God” is a “nature”, Keith.Naturea : the inherent character or basic…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,20:56)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2013,23:39)That would mean that they are sons of God as equally as Jesus, is that what you believe?Absolutely – with the exception that Jesus was the FIRST son God ever created, and all the other spirit sons of God were created BY God and THROUGH His FIRST son, Jesus.Oh…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,00:36)So if at 10:am you have 100 groups of three gathered in his name how could he be “IN THE MIDST” OF THEM IF HE IS NOT Omnipresent or GOD?Let me use your scriptural reference to make my point, Keith:If Jesus is ONLY in the midst of groups of three or more who are pre…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2013,23:39)Of course the Son is not the Father!And who does scripture says is our only God?1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father……..Paul says our one God IS the Father.Been down this road.If this scripture means that only the Father is God then it must…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:46)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 22 2013,04:04)It doesn't change the meaning of the word 'representation'.If something represents a hammer, then is it that hammer?Actually, the Greek word usually translated as “representation” is “charakter”.  A “charakter” is the engraving tool that stamped an image into metal.  They used t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2013,23:39)A dog begets dog, etc, etc.If it started out that there was only ONE dog in existence, then THE Dog would beget A dog.  But the begotten dog would not be THE Dog who begot him.MikeOnce again, its about identity and nature. Either you are to stubborn or blind to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,14:28)No, Jesus is not the Father but Jesus nature is God!Didn't you just say “God” was a “title”?  Explain to me how “God” is a “nature”, Keith.Naturea : the inherent character or basic constitution of a person or thing : essenceExamples:Dog is a title. A dogs nature…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2013,23:39)But unlike you I don’t believe Jesus is something “less” than God like you……….Do you believe the son of the king is also the king?  Do you believe the son of the President is also the President?  Do you believe the son of the Prime Minister is also the Pri…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 22 2013,13:06)To all,From what I have observed KJ is using hit and run tactics.  He is attempting to use logical reasoning to support his believes which has the appearance of wisdom.  The logic is flawed in what he infers but did not write.  He infers only God can be worshiped but Scripture speaks of a time when the People wo…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 17 2013,10:26)The WHOLE redeemed creation worships the Father AND the Lamb (Revelation 5:11-13). Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, 12 saying with a loud…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 22 2013,16:08)WJ………you made a statement that I do agree with, that Jesus' nature is exactly as the father, and that's one thing also that I believe you Trinitarians have over other Preexistence here like T8 and Mike. You do see God's real presence ” IN” Jesus  I also see that. Now with the idea that God who is…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Jan. 22 2013,16:24)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,18:31)Quote  it is clear that this does not include God himself, “who put everything under Christ”. WJ,HOW ABOUT THIS ONE AS WELL? John 12: 32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL THINGS to myself. Peace and Love in JesusCharlesExcellent! Who could do that…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,01:52)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 21 2013,21:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,11:30)T8 It would seem that it is your own tongue that denies that God has all power in heaven and in earth!And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, “ALL POWER” is given unto me “IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH' Math 28:19But evil men and…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 22 2013,05:13)WJ, you haven't changed a bit from what I can see.Still as stubborn as ever IMO.”Slander” 1: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions madeYou mean because I am like you and haven’t changed my belie…[Read more]