Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2011,15:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 09 2011,03:16)WAS HE A PUPPET ON A STRING THAT COULD DO NOTHING ON HIS OWN?Not a puppet because puppets are dead.But he definitely did nothing of his own accord.Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,19:04) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,02:52)For all things comes from him (Jesus) to us. That's pretty close, Keith.    But actually, scripture says that all things come FROM God.  And all things come THROUGH Jesus.That’s not just close Mike. It is a fact. Now I have some questions for you…?Is Jesus the…[Read more]

Hi MikeYou said…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,19:04)Okay, the second part of the Lexicon deals with “sitting at the right hand”.  Gesenius says that this is an honor that is CONFERRED UPON someone BY the King.  Solomon CONFERS this honor upon his mother in 1 Kiings 2:19.Such weak lame comparisons. Jesus is not a mother but is “The Son”. If…[Read more]

Hi MikeYou said..Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,19:04)Those on whom special honour is conferred are said to sit on the right hand of a king, as the queen (1 Kings 2:19, Ps 45:10), the friend of the king, or minister of the kingdom (Ps 110:1)Jesus is not a queen but the “Only Begotten Son” whom the Father has given the Kingdom.Tell me Mike if an…[Read more]

Mike you said…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,19:04)This is from Gesenius's Lexicon, as shown on the Blue Letter Bible site:To stand on the right hand of anyone is the same as to aid him (Ps 16:8, 109:31, 110:5, 121:5)Nope no inequality here. YHVH at David’s right hand was aiding him, was YHVH inferior to David?Is YHVH doing the works of God a…[Read more]

MikeYou told me you will not address all the points but if there wa something you missed then I should ask it again, so I am gonna take your word on that and bring them up.You said…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,19:04) 1.  Keith, do you understand that Jesus will eventually turn this SOVEREIGN reign he has been GIVEN by his God back over to…[Read more]

Bump For MikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,19:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,05:51)The problem you have is David didn’t do the works of God but is merely a vice-regent. However Jesus does the works.Show me the scripture where Jesus did any works ON HIS OWN.  Show me where he claimed it was by his OWN power, and NOT by the power of hi…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2011,16:25)All liars and murderers have Satan as their father. Satan is their God.t8So satan gets to be a God and Jesus doesn't? You never answered my honest question…Tell us t8, If to you satan is the God of this world then who is Jesus the God of?The Bible does call Jesus God too doesn't it?WJ

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2011,15:41)Jesus origin is the Father. Satan's origin is himself.t8No satan was created by Jesus. 'nothing came into being without him“!WJ

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2011,16:51)You missed the point again WJ.Read again WJ.Revelation 3:21To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.The point I made is that your logic pertaining to Jesus sitting on God's throne needs to also work with us…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2011,15:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 09 2011,03:16)WAS HE A PUPPET ON A STRING THAT COULD DO NOTHING ON HIS OWN?Not a puppet because puppets are dead.But he definitely did nothing of his own accord.Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2011,15:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,07:27)Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 07 2011,15:06)Youngs Literal Translation has it worded as this;He who is overcoming — I will give to him to sit with me in my throne, as I also did overcome and did sit down with my Father in His throne.Which could mean slightly different. Actually…[Read more]

Hi MikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,19:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,02:52)MikeBut if he sits IN the “Throne of God” then he must be God or equal to him, right?The answer is NO, Keith.  For God to let Jesus sit in His throne WITH HIM means that God has let His Son rule in His strength and name………FOR A WHILE.  Just like M…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,19:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,05:51)The problem you have is David didn’t do the works of God but is merely a vice-regent. However Jesus does the works.Show me the scripture where Jesus did any works ON HIS OWN.  Show me where he claimed it was by his OWN power, and NOT by the power of his Father, wh…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2011,18:22)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,10:07)ED(1)Is the Holy Spirit our Father?(2)“The Spirit of God hath made me”, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. Job 33:4The Holy Spirit takes part in every conception. (3)Jesus is “Unique” because he had no human Father.WJHi WJ,1) You sometimes have trouble…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2011,18:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,03:10)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2011,19:45)I'm glad you decided to study instead of criticize; it shows us all your maturity in Christ, Jesus!Titus 2:13-14 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2011,17:56)WJ said to Marty:Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,02:15)there is no scripture that says that the Holy Spirit is the Father of Jesus or that the Holy Spirit is the Father is there?Hi WJ,What does the combination of Eph.4:6 combined with Matt.1:18, Matt.1:20 and Luke 1:35 say to you?Matt.1:18 Now the birth of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2011,17:32)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,04:25)Look Again t8.Jesus “sees” what the Father does and “He does it”.Can you make that claim, that whatever the Father does you can do?WJQuote Of course if he can do whatever he sees the Father do then that means he is equal.Hi WJ,Ed J “sees” what the Father says and “I say…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2011,17:02)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 08 2011,02:09)But Joseph DID not do what Pharaohs exact works.Jesus did the exact works of the Father.Hi D,So if YOU did the same works as Keith did, would you and Keith be the same identical being?mikeWe Aren't God.But if he did the same works I did he would be equal to me…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 03 2011,14:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2011,05:45)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2011,13:03)would you not agree that you try to push your opinion first then the scriptures,??No! I am taking the scripture for what it says…The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the “EXACT REPRESENTATION” of his being,…[Read more]