MikeWhy have you asked the same questions again that we have already asked?WJ

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2011,16:58)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 23 2011,03:16)Thank you Mike! You said that “Jesus is CLEARLY called God” and you're going to destroy the trinity doctrine?Ye are theos/elohim, ye are all sons of the Most High.That destroys the Trinity doctrine because they are not God.You need to be able to cater for all of scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 22 2011,16:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2011,07:58)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 22 2011,14:32)Hi WJ,So if no Greek articles are used: that means the speaker refers to neither even though both God and Jesus are mentioned?EDIt has nothing to do with “No” greek articles.This is the NETs commentary on Tit 2:13 which explains the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2011,15:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2011,01:43)JackI wonder if most ever give any thought to this poll?Most anti Jesus is God people admit they were saved through a Trinitarian.I wonder what made them change Jesus for another Jesus or change the Gospel they had recieved for another Gospel?WJWJ, do you ever consider…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 22 2011,14:32)Hi WJ,So if no Greek articles are used: that means the speaker refers to neither even though both God and Jesus are mentioned?EDIt has nothing to do with “No” greek articles.This is the NETs commentary on Tit 2:13 which explains the GSR.The terms “God and Savior” both refer to the same person, Jesus Christ. Thi…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 22 2011,15:35)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 23 2011,07:12)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 23 2011,00:39)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 15 2011,09:35)Quote (Lightenup @ July 01 2008,00:14)Even though I have attended churches all my life that have held to the trinity doctrine, the salvation message given was regarding John 3:16, “For God so…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2011,21:57)Hi Keith,1.  Knowing that Jesus is NOT everything the BEING OF GOD is, can Jesus possibly BE the BEING OF GOD that he is the Son of?Hi MikeAnother loaded question that is full of assumptions.We have already seen that “Jesus is “Equal” to the Father in authority and power. That means that Jesus is “Omn…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2011,21:56) Hi Keith,Matthew 20:20-21, 2320 Then the mother of Zebedee’s sons came to Jesus with her sons and, kneeling down, asked a favor of him.   21 “What is it you want?” he asked.   She said, “Grant that one of these two sons of mine may sit at your right and the other at your left in your kingdom.” 23 Jesus sa…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2011,21:52)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 20 2011,07:16)Keith said to Mike:Quote This means the Father will not boot Jesus out of his throne nor revoke his “Sovereignty” to rule with the Father.Keith,You are absolutely correct. The Father cannot justly revoke Christ's sovereignty for two reasons:1. The throne was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 19 2011,19:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 20 2011,05:04)Well Mike, go ahead and justify that someone other than God could sit in the “Throne of God” in heaven if you like, but once again, the Throne of God on the earth was a “Type” of the “Throne of God” in heaven. Men sat in YHVH's throne on earth which is a type of…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 22 2011,11:04)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 22 2011,01:46)TO All,I marvel that t8 has involved himself in two debates with WJ. t8 has said numerous times here that Jesus is God qualitatively. This means that Jesus is God! t8 will need to give up his “qualitative” explanation if he is going to be consistent and have a chance…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2011,00:34)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 22 2011,03:31)God is both called “Us” and “Him” in Genesis 1:26. KJOK. So when are you going to start referring to God as THEM and THEY? Of course, we will stick with HIM because we believe that there is one God the Father.It appears that you do not have too much faith in your doctrine…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2011,19:36)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 22 2011,11:32)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 22 2011,11:00)Hi WJ,2Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:Notice the word AND once again!Are you trying to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2011,18:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 22 2011,08:03)ED”Please tell us “what kind of creature is Jesus” if he is the literal and Only Begotten Son of God?“Do you know what and who he is?“WJHi Mike,Why Yes I certainly do.He was born as a “Half Breed”;but he would look no different from us,because we were all created in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2011,18:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 22 2011,07:36)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 21 2011,05:14)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2011,19:50)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 21 2011,18:45)Son of God = GodHi Jack,               Sons of God  =  God? …Mmmm??Rom,8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 22 2011,08:39)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 15 2011,09:35)Quote (Lightenup @ July 01 2008,00:14)Even though I have attended churches all my life that have held to the trinity doctrine, the salvation message given was regarding John 3:16, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that who so ever believes on…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2011,18:33)I agree.  Jack and Keith can CLEARLY and LOGICALLY see the fallacy in SF's statement that the Son IS the Father.  Yet they are blind to the fallacy in their own claim that the Son OF God is the same God he is the Son OF.  Mike and EDYou guys deny the law of “Every seed bearing after its own kind”.If Jesus is…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 21 2011,05:14)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2011,19:50)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 21 2011,18:45)Son of God = GodHi Jack,               Sons of God  =  God? …Mmmm??Rom,8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.             Children of God  =  God? …Mmmm??Rom.8:16 The Spirit itself be…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2011,13:33)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2011,01:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2011,03:25)He was simply calling Jesus “my ruler”, which he is.  Keith, did you know there are many who are called “god”, but only ONE “TRUE GOD”?This may be true. But EDJ also has a point IMO.This verse also has 2 definite articles when it only needed one…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 19 2011,15:29)Hi WJ,What correcting to you mean?And what truth are you referring to?EdMike said…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 19 2011,12:54)I agree with YOU that Thomas did say his statement to JESUS alone, not to God AND Jesus.  Why?  Because it says “to HIM” and not “to THEM”.Do you see that he disagrees with you? I will give h…[Read more]